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  • Thoroughbred Horse Show Program

    http://www.racingtothering.com/qualifications.htm

    What a great new program.....

  • #2
    Sounds interesting - I wonder if any of the NE shows will pick it up?

    It is a little disappointing that they are only offering 2' and a 2'6" fence heights. It would be nice to offer some higher sections to show that TB are not just lower level athletes

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ponymom64 View Post
      Sounds interesting - I wonder if any of the NE shows will pick it up?

      It is a little disappointing that they are only offering 2' and a 2'6" fence heights. It would be nice to offer some higher sections to show that TB are not just lower level athletes
      There is another group in VA that offers a similar program. 'TB Celebration'. They also only offer low fence heights.
      An A rated show on Long Island will run the TB celebration classes this year. TB Celebration has a rather complicated eligibility criteria. Pretty much the horse needs to have raced or been in race training or you can prove it was bred to race ( no TB's bred to show are allowed).

      I'd like to see some classes run over 3' or better too.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by PineTreeFarm View Post
        There is another group in VA that offers a similar program. 'TB Celebration'. They also only offer low fence heights.
        An A rated show on Long Island will run the TB celebration classes this year. TB Celebration has a rather complicated eligibility criteria. Pretty much the horse needs to have raced or been in race training or you can prove it was bred to race ( no TB's bred to show are allowed).

        I'd like to see some classes run over 3' or better too.
        Which show on LI? I would like to support the TB classes if at all possible even though our horse can't be bothered to do more than canter over those speed bumps - LOL!

        Is there a link to the criteria for the Celebration classes?

        There should definitely be some classes offered at 3' + - especially if you are providing this division in conjunction with an A show

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        • #5
          I'd love to support TB classes, but it sure would be nice if they would track to more traditional heights (aka at least the children/adult heights. Or better yet, how about a program that recognizes TB performance at any USEF recognized event?

          It would be even more amazing if the JC would be part of it, you know to bring more awareness to what their athletes can do in second careers/alternate careers.

          Yes, I know, I dream...
          Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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          • #6
            I help out at the VA TB shows and participate as well and they are a lot of fun. 3 days of pleasure, hunter, and jumper classes and lots of other activities to raise money for TB Organizations and some fun ones for the participants all held at the Virginia Horse Center.

            They are definitely a lot of fun and we even have other shows in the area have TB classes that allow the participants to qualify for the stakes classes at our shows. We have three, The Triple Crown Series, a year in March, June, and November!

            If anyone is interested and wants more information just let me know and I can tell you all about it!
            Last edited by cswoodlandfairy; Mar. 30, 2011, 11:23 AM.
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            • #7
              I love it! But I'd rather see more than one show series carry the classes before I pay the $50 membership fee. The press release on their page is outdated, anyone know if they are actively advertising this to show managers, or if there is anything else similar in Zone II? And I agree that it's not going to keep going if they only do 2' and 2'3" heights.
              Maybe we can start a running list on here somewhere of shows in each zone with TB classes, so that others are aware and can support them?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DMK View Post

                It would be even more amazing if the JC would be part of it, you know to bring more awareness to what their athletes can do in second careers/alternate careers.

                Yes, I know, I dream...
                Glad to know I'm not the only dreamer.
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                • #9
                  Maryland Horse Shows Association has a TB Hunter Division at 3' with a $1,000 Invitational Classic at the end of the year, a lot of shows in Zone 3, and many in PA (Zone 2) hold the division. It would be nice if more places in the country offered somthing similar...or you could just move up closer!!
                  www.mdhsa.org

                  Also about 8 years ago when I was doing some fundraising for CANTER we held a TB jumper division just under the regular C/A jumper height, had a classic and gambler's choice a lot of fun, had a good number of entries..it is really hard sometimes trying to encourage people to come and keeping heights where you think they should be...working on just a few divisions for a few years really opened my eyes to what show managers must go through with 50 divisions and show after show year after year...nothing to envy!!
                  Last edited by Moesha; Mar. 30, 2011, 02:22 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Well, I have to get back to work, but here's a list of some shows with TB classes/divisions that I am already aware of. None appear to be affiliated with the link in the OP though:

                    3/12-3/13 SWVHJA/VHSA House Mountain Lexington VA
                    3/18-3/20 Non-rated Thoroughbred Celebration Lexington VA
                    3/26-3/27 MDHSA "B"? Black Eyed Susan Upper Marlboro MD
                    5/14-5/15 MDHSA "B"? Black Eyed Susan Upper Marlboro MD
                    5/28-5/29 SWVHJA/VHSA House Mountain Lexington VA
                    6/6-6/12 USEF "AA" Upperville Upperville VA
                    6/10-6/12 Non-rated Thoroughbred Celebration Lexington VA
                    7/12-7/13 SWVHJA/VHSA House Mountain Lexington VA
                    7/16-7/17 MDHSA "B" Black Eyed Susan Upper Marlboro MD
                    8/10-8/14 AA Lexington National Horse Show Lexington VA
                    8/20-8/21 MDHSA "B" Black Eyed Susan Upper Marlboro MD
                    10/8-10/9 SWVHJA/VHSA House Mountain Lexington VA
                    11/18-11/20 Non-rated Thoroughbred Celebration Lexington VA

                    Feel free to add to it!
                    Last edited by I'dRatherBRiding; Apr. 2, 2011, 04:16 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Moesha View Post
                      Maryland Horse Shows Association has a TB Hunter Division at 3' with a $1,000 Invitational Classic at the end of the year, a lot of shows in Zone 3, and many in PA (Zone 2) hold the division. It would be nice if more places in the country offered somthing similar...or you could just move up closer!!
                      www.mdhsa.org

                      Also about 8 years ago when I was doing some fundraising for CANTER we held a TB jumper division just under the regular C/A jumper height, had a classic and gambler's choice a lot of fun, had a good number of entries..it is really hard sometimes trying to encourage people to come and keeping heights where you think they should be...working on just a few divisions for a few years really opened my eyes to what show managers must go through with 50 divisions and show after show year after year...nothing to envy!!
                      I don't doubt that it's mind numbing!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ponymom64 View Post
                        Which show on LI? I would like to support the TB classes if at all possible even though our horse can't be bothered to do more than canter over those speed bumps - LOL!
                        I would like to know which show on LI also and go to watch. And I could finally meet you.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BAC View Post
                          I would like to know which show on LI also and go to watch. And I could finally meet you.
                          If you hear which one it is and get me the prize list, we'll try to come over!!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BAC View Post
                            I would like to know which show on LI also and go to watch. And I could finally meet you.
                            Long Island PHA Mid May at county Farm in Yaphank.
                            You can download the prize list here:
                            http://lipha.org/

                            There is information on FB about TB Celebration.
                            But again, because of the convoluted qualifications don't be surprised if horses that get points at this show are not accepted at the finals.

                            Here's the email I received from that group in response to specific situations. Notice they really didn't answer questions, just sent me back to their rules and that's where the problem lies.
                            In one breath I'm told that TB's bred to be show horses are not eligible and in the next just having papers makes them eligible.
                            In my case a TB with papers DOES NOT indicate an intent to race.
                            Where's the spinning head icon? LOL

                            " I re read my qualifications and actually they do answer your questions, maybe my wording confused you. It clearly states at the beginning that an eligible TB would have ANY of the following.
                            Then I go into different scenarios, just as you did.
                            We never said a horse must have a tattoo see rule #1
                            I said that a horse needs a tattoo OR documentation, and then I list the possibilities.
                            Jockey Club papers without a tattoo indicate a clear intent that the horse was bred to race, as long as the sire was registered with the jockey club
                            An inlegible tattoo does not disqualify a horse, and that is explained in rule #1 I clearly say that if ANY part of the tattoo can be read, the horse qualifies.

                            your example # 4 is covered in rule #5 a & b...."if you know the name of the owner/trainer/or breeder who ever handled the horse at the track or farm, and they can verify that your horse was bred with the intention of racing even if he never started, he is eligible to compete as long as you can provide the names of those contacts.....( you don't need all of them, EITHER the owner/trainer /or breeder will do.
                            Hope this helps! Please let me know if you ned any more clarification"
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                            • #15
                              Thanks for the info, Pine Tree! Unfortunately, that is Senior Prom, so no horseshowing for us

                              BUT, if you hear of another NE show offering these classes, I seriously would go!
                              Last edited by ponymom64; Mar. 30, 2011, 05:45 PM.

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                              • #16
                                The Black Eyed Susan shows are MHSA "C" rated but not USEF rated, and they offer a non-rated 2'6 OTTB division which is a qualifier for the stake class at the TB Celebration Show.

                                Upcoming shows that offer the 3' MHSA-rated TB division include Rose Mount and the Showplace Spring Festival and Maryland National shows that start tomorrow at the PGEC.

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                                • #17
                                  The hunters at the TB celebration show go to 3'.

                                  The jumpers to 3'6" so, there is some opportunity to jump a bit bigger than 3, just not in the hunters.

                                  The people that run the TB celebration show are great and they are always looking for suggestions, so if you seriously think you would attend and support suggest the other heights.
                                  \"A smart lady knows its ok to change her mind, a damn fool never does\"

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                                  • #18
                                    And dont forget Upperville has TB classes for OTTB "to slow to go"
                                    \"A smart lady knows its ok to change her mind, a damn fool never does\"

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                                    • #19
                                      The Warrenton Horse Show also has "Back from the Track Hack". It's designated as 'for thoroughbreds only to be shown under their registered name.'

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                                      • #20
                                        The EPPHA Benefit Horse Shows held in Pennsylvania, April 23rd (Ludwigs Corner) , and August 12th & 13th (Quentin Riding Club), will be presenting an award to the high point off track Throroughred for each show. All shows are USEF B rated, and Points in any division will count towards the award.
                                        The concept was developed too late to be included in the prizelist for April's show, but will be advertised for the August shows, and may possibly become a year end award for the EPPHA next year.
                                        I'm not certain, but these may currently be the only USEF rated shows in PA to offer an incentive award for off track Thoroughbreds. Hopefully more shows will follow suit!
                                        Last edited by I'dRatherBRiding; Apr. 2, 2011, 05:02 PM.

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