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  • Perfect Prep vs Calm & Cool vs Other Calming Pastes

    So I"m looking for something to use on show days to help with my horse's nerves and anxiety so that he can learn showing doesn't have to be scary. I've heard good reviews about all of them, so which ones have you guys used? Which worked the best? Thanks!

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    None of those will test, but they are all against the rules. You will be cheating by using them.

    That said, now tons of people will pop on here and say "I use X ALL THE TIME".

    Doesn't matter, it's still cheating.

    But hey, who cares about following the rules right? Those only apply to people with ethics anyway.
    "Are you yawning? You don't ride well enough to yawn. I can yawn, because I ride better than you. Meredith Michael Beerbaum can yawn. But you? Not so much..."
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      I found the PP Extreme to be more effective and longer lasting than other calming agents. I have 2 mares, who are fairly easy to deal with EXCEPT when they come into season at a show and then they are nuts! We use the PP training day powder with the Extreme and the girls are soft and quiet like at home.

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        I"m not planning on using it all the time, and sorry but my having my horse learn from a positive, calm experience so that he can maintain that attitude at bigger shows is more important than "cheating" at a little, tiny local show. I'm not using them so that I can go in and win.

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          Thanks for making my point about ethics.
          "Are you yawning? You don't ride well enough to yawn. I can yawn, because I ride better than you. Meredith Michael Beerbaum can yawn. But you? Not so much..."
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            Originally posted by kelsey97 View Post
            I found the PP Extreme to be more effective and longer lasting than other calming agents. I have 2 mares, who are fairly easy to deal with EXCEPT when they come into season at a show and then they are nuts! We use the PP training day powder with the Extreme and the girls are soft and quiet like at home.
            Thanks!

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              Originally posted by SaturdayNightLive View Post
              Thanks for making my point about ethics.
              My eithics have to do with the happiness and well being of my horse. Didn't realize that was such a crime. Gah. I'm such a criminal! Please just cuff me, and lead me away!

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                Originally posted by forestergirl99 View Post
                My eithics have to do with the happiness and well being of my horse. Didn't realize that was such a crime. Gah. I'm such a criminal! Please just cuff me, and lead me away!
                YOU'RE CHEATING. Cheating is unethical, not matter how you rationalize it. Plenty of people take their horse's to their first shows without drugging them.

                But hey, like I said, the rules obviously don't apply to you. You're not trying to cheat - you're trying to make your horse happy. Good for you!
                "Are you yawning? You don't ride well enough to yawn. I can yawn, because I ride better than you. Meredith Michael Beerbaum can yawn. But you? Not so much..."
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                  Originally posted by SaturdayNightLive View Post
                  YOU'RE CHEATING. Cheating is unethical, not matter how you rationalize it. Plenty of people take their horse's to their first shows without drugging them.

                  But hey, like I said, the rules obviously don't apply to you. You're not trying to cheat - you're trying to make your horse happy. Good for you!
                  Who said it was his first show? He's been to three shows and one clinic. High as a kite and nervous to bits each time even when I lunged him before. We've been very successful at each show, but he still hasn't learned to calm down and relax. Him learning to chill and be CONFIDENT(something that took him ohhhh....a year and halt to build AT HOME) is more important than winning. Our next show involves hunter courses, halting when he gets strong or fast, and trotting fences. Trust me. No one of going to complain about me cheating as a I walk out in last place.

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                  • #10
                    If it's at a schooling show that isn't governed by USEF then it isn't necessarily cheating, depends on what the rules of that show are.

                    I don't have an opinion on any of the pastes....hope you get some better responses.
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                      Originally posted by Nickelodian View Post
                      If it's at a schooling show that isn't governed by USEF then it isn't necessarily cheating, depends on what the rules of that show are.

                      I don't have an opinion on any of the pastes....hope you get some better responses.
                      Exactly. Thank you. And so do I.

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                        Any thoughts?

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                        • #13
                          I thought PP was herbal, no?
                          \"Don\'t go throwing effort after foolishness\" >>>Spur, Man From Snowy River

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Czar View Post
                            I thought PP was herbal, no?
                            PP is amino acid based.

                            To the OP - have not ever used the others but PP can have a calming and steadying effect on one that can get a little "up" at shows. I know many people that swear by it.

                            Although, supposedly it doesn't test, it is used to alter a horses performance, so technically illegal.

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                            • #15
                              Especially with the herbal remedies, I think that an argument can be made that it is not cheating if it addresses a nutritional deficiency your horse may have.

                              I've not used either product so no advice, sorry.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Alice View Post
                                Especially with the herbal remedies, I think that an argument can be made that it is not cheating if it addresses a nutritional deficiency your horse may have.

                                I've not used either product so no advice, sorry.
                                So for arguments sake, if your horse tends to get ulcers b/c of anxiety, would you use something that didn't test but would be deemed illegal to help calm his nerves?
                                \"Don\'t go throwing effort after foolishness\" >>>Spur, Man From Snowy River

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                                  Originally posted by SaturdayNightLive View Post
                                  None of those will test, but they are all against the rules. You will be cheating by using them.

                                  :
                                  Calm and Cool Oralx is not USEF legal. Contains Valerian and passion flower.

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                                    Perfect Prep and Ex Stress I have seen some results with. I would avoid "Total Calm and Focus", it has a terrible smell and stains everything, besides not having much effect.

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                                    • #19
                                      I thought the perfect prep extreme was legal. I have heard of alot of people that use it and think it works.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by jay0087 View Post
                                        I thought the perfect prep extreme was legal. I have heard of alot of people that use it and think it works.
                                        It doesn't test. That doesn't make it legal. The rule says anything given with the sole intention of calming the horse is out of bounds.

                                        But, like I said earlier, that rule apparently doesn't apply to everybody.
                                        "Are you yawning? You don't ride well enough to yawn. I can yawn, because I ride better than you. Meredith Michael Beerbaum can yawn. But you? Not so much..."
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