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  • Pelhams and Ponies

    If a child doing the Childrens Hunter and Eq divisions can correctly use a pelham with both reins will a judge severely mark them down for the use of an "unconventional" bit? Pony is 19 yrs old and trucks the kids around, Pony gets slightly heavy in the corners and kid is TINY, curb rein helps the kid balance the pony better and they are putting in good trips and placing fairly well ( 1st's thru 4ths in classes with up to 10 in the class) but IF they could find a more "conventional" bit would they be placing even better?
    Just a note that they have tried almost every other bit known to man and this just seems to be the perfect combo for them, issue is moving into the pony hunter division with this bit is almost unheard of, so they are looking for ideas.

  • #2
    Um, been in a real Pony BNT barn for 15 years and the statement "this bit is unheard of in the hunters" is off base.

    A judge MIGHT prefer somthing that indicates an easier Pony in something like the SS or beginner level, not at the rated level where it is assumed the kid is farther along and the Pony needs to be alot more brilliant to pin well-that might require more bit.

    I think what happens is some do not pin well because the kid is getting dragged around-so they blame the bit. Used correctly it can help balance and smooth out a strong Pony so the kid is not dragged around and the Pony does not blow thru changes on the cross lead.

    But it's always easier to blame the bit, breed or color then admit the trip sucked and the kid overmatched.

    It should not hurt you in front of 99% of judges and the other 1% would only drop you in a tie and then only one place. That is R and r judges, locals can be all over the place because there really are not "conventional items" at some of those shows.
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    • Original Poster

      Thanks!! I personally think that a pelham used correctly is FINE but having watched most of the pony hunter trips at some big A and AA shows in the past few years I just don't see many being used . I would RATHER give a kid that rides well a pelham over lets say a Segunda or a more harsh bit simply because I think a pelham is less severe and allows the kid to adjust and balance the pony. But that is simply personal preference.


      • #4
        If it goes nicely in the pelham, no problem. If the child is waterskiing on the curb rein, not so much.
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        • Original Poster

          Originally posted by toomanyponies View Post
          If it goes nicely in the pelham, no problem. If the child is waterskiing on the curb rein, not so much.
          LOL love that description!! And no there is no waterskiing going on! Thanks for the laugh!
          Last edited by pm59; Mar. 23, 2011, 09:39 AM. Reason: spelling


          • #6
            A pelham is a very traditional bit for the hunters. In no way would it be considered unconventional.
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            • #7
              I have been told by several trainers that judges in the hunters don't like to see the pehlam, it is a bit I considered for my daughters pony that gets very heavy, so we avoided it but I have no real ring experience saying it is true. If a kid knows how to use it I think whatever bit a pony goes best in should not be penalized.


              • #8
                Originally posted by findeight View Post
                But it's always easier to blame the bit, breed or color then admit the trip sucked and the kid overmatched.
                So true...