• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Update, post 32, 2nd guessing future hunter,

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Original Poster

    Loves Horses

    Originally posted by LovesHorses View Post
    Sending her to the trainer is a great idea, but a month won't get you much. That is barely enough time to get one fit and to start to understand them. That is also assuming the trainer is home the entire time. I would think three months minimum or don't bother. Trainers can't work miracles in 20 rides. Good luck!
    I know. I am not looking for her to solve all the problems, just more direction. I guess I am looking for her expertise in whether to continue as a hunter or bail. She is nice on cross country, I can ride her down the road. She is super athletic.

    Actually, the pro who showed her for me before saw this post and was kind enough to email, said something along the lines of, she is super talented and scopey but maybe not a hunter. And this pro can ride.

    It is not like I have to get rid of her, I own the farm and she definitely has value in me keeping her as a riding horse and not as a show horse.

    Again, like the one pro said - she has so much talent, it is almost sad not to see her go on w/ someone else.....
    Come to the dark side, we have cookies


    • #22
      I feel your pain. I also have a hot, sensitive mare who is coming 7 this April. I've known her since birth and, while she is gorgeous, I don't know if she'll ever be 'hunter' quiet without chemical intervention. It's a hard call to make since I've been in pharmacy school for the past two years so she's largely had the winters off. But even in consistent work she's only had a ride here or there where I wasn't constantly working to keep her calm and relaxed. I've tried working her 7 days per week, only 2-3 days per week, hacking out, overnight turnout, lungeing, supplements, hormones, massages...you name it.

      I figure it will be good for her to pretend to be a hunter and attempt to practice being quiet and calm until I graduate. After that, the Dark Side is calling


      • #23
        Thirty days with a trainer may not be ideal but, in this case??? OP has her well started and is not looking for a Derby Hunter in 30 days, just an honest evaluation of the direction she should be taking. That is a fair amount of time for that trainer to do that particular job as well as, maybe, solve a training issue. Not cure it, just identify it.

        It's a pretty realistic sounding poster and I think the trainer is a great way to get to the bottom of this.

        If nothing else, trainer may be able to sell her along to somebody better able to deal with her or recommend she just be a pleasure horse. But OP needs a second opinion.
        When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

        The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.


        • #24
          Originally posted by LovesHorses View Post
          Sending her to the trainer is a great idea, but a month won't get you much. That is barely enough time to get one fit and to start to understand them. That is also assuming the trainer is home the entire time. I would think three months minimum or don't bother. Trainers can't work miracles in 20 rides. Good luck!
          I strongly disagree.

          My trainer turned my mare around in 5 rides and if I had the budget for a month of full-training, I would come back to a new horse.

          It just depends on the quality of training


          • #25
            Originally posted by GraceLikeRain View Post
            I strongly disagree.

            My trainer turned my mare around in 5 rides and if I had the budget for a month of full-training, I would come back to a new horse.

            It just depends on the quality of training
            I agree. I hired a pro rider (she lives 15 minutes from the barn) to ride my 3.5 y.o. 2 times a week and she is making her progress so much so quickly. Though as GLR said, you have to find the right person for your mare.


            • #26
              Your mare is beautiful. I'm with everyone else, send her to the trainer to be evaluated. Maybe she's the prefect hunter for someone else, maybe she'd be better as a jumper or eventing. Or maybe you want to keep her and just trail ride. Horses don't know or care if their talent is being wasted... but, riding and owning horses should be first and foremost about having fun. If you aren't having fun maybe you should sell her to someone who will have fun with her.


              • #27
                Am I the only one seeing a gelding in the OP's profile picture?
                COTH's official mini-donk enabler

                "I am all for reaching out, but in some situations it needs to be done with a rolled up news paper." Alagirl


                • Original Poster

                  Originally posted by TheJenners View Post
                  Am I the only one seeing a gelding in the OP's profile picture?
                  I moved her pic out due to a discussion about showing in-hand I was having. I'll put her back up ( that is her brother w/ Ray at Warrenton.)
                  Come to the dark side, we have cookies


                  • #29
                    It sounds like you don't take regular lessons? Regular lessons might help you give her a better ride so she goes quieter. You can also consider showing in jumpers for the fun of it. You don't need to be competitive if you don't want to, and if your mare is truly hot she'll have more fun without being worked into the ground to fit a square peg into a round hole.


                    • #30
                      The headset issue would not bother me. That is a training issue and can be fixed.

                      The hotness/nervousness is another story. Once you've had some of the babies that are good citizens, it makes all of that other stuff hard to deal with. I personally am not interested (at all) in owning youngsters that exhibit behavior that you are describing. Some people don't mind it and manage to channel that energy into a brilliant performance. I find that the greenies are plenty of work under the absolute best of circumstances, without mental baggage.

                      Sometimes it's a matter of deciding what you want to live with. A horse that's frustrating to you might be a dreamboat to someone else in a different program or climate.
                      Trinity Farm LLC
                      Quality hunters and jumpers at Midwest prices
                      Like us on Facebook:


                      • #31
                        To look at her and read what you say about her I'd continue to invest in her. 30-60 days with a good trainer can do amazing things, but it sounds like you are going to have to find a way to ride her more also, is there someone you can pay to put rides on her? Even if it's some basic flat work, on the days you can't get out there? She's adorable, and you already know what you have and need to work with, plus unless you are going to keep her for a trail horse a 6 year old greenie in this economy may be a harder sell than you think. Good luck, I just love the look of her! Sometimes those QH crosses come out with the just the right amount of everything! <3

                        eta: have you tried depo? Some people swear by it, some say it does nothing. Worth a shot? and opps thats a gelding in your pic, well in any case he is lovely LOL!


                        • Original Poster


                          So- establishing a regular routine, even if it is a light lunge in tack is helping ( duh-right?), Obviously they all have a program that works best for them. I hav been spoiled w/ the ones who act like they get ridden daily and are calm.

                          Also- a key factor with her I believe is I have separated her from her herd. She is in a solo field where she can see other horses ( not her herd, they are accross the street and could care less she is gone) but is on solo turn out.

                          I started this on Friday ( so it could be done while I am at home, just in case) and I saw a difference last night. I only have been lunging and ground driving her ( back to some basics) and she is paying much better attention to ME and not what is going on around.

                          Hopefully I can link a video at the end of the week.

                          Just thought I'd update.

                          I have some other options from a BNT who thinks she is more appropriate as a jumper. We'll see.... Figured I'd start back to some basics and work back up....
                          Come to the dark side, we have cookies