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    "cold-emailing"

    How would you feel if someone who was looking for a work position (be it working student, groom, assistant trainer, rider, whatever) emailed you out of the blue asking if you had any openings (perhaps they got your email from your website, so not a crazy stalker..)? Would this put you off? TIA!
    I see distances. Most times more than one. Sometimes I pick the right one, sometimes I pick the wrong one, and sometimes I close my eyes and let Jesus take the wheel.

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    It wouldn't put me off. It happens all the time in business. I think the odds are against you, but you never know.
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      #3
      No different that what we used to do the Dark Ages - send a letter through the mail. On paper. With a stamp!
      I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care. ~ Dave Barry

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        #4
        I get these fairly frequently, but often in response to a hrose for sale ad that I post! That does kind of irritate me, but just a polite email stating waht they are looking for and so on is fine, I often refer them to other farms that might need help
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          #5
          That's how I got a job with a nice barn. But I did also give a reference from a woman who knew me and who had also worked for the barn before. And I knew that the trainer had recently moved to CA from the m mid west and thought he might be looking for a rider.

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            #6
            Nope, seems reasonable to me. I cold-applied to lots of jobs right out of grad school that way, using the old-fashioned snail mail method. You never know if you don't ask.
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              #7
              Absolutely fine

              It's good because many professionals don't have time to go out looking but will keep your info on file if you seem like a good candidate.

              But grammar and puctuation count! And email addresses like "xxxxhotpinkluvmyponiekinsxxxx" make a potential new hire come across like a 9 year old. Jus' sayin! Good luck.

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                #8
                Originally posted by 867-5309 View Post
                And email addresses like "xxxxhotpinkluvmyponiekinsxxxx" .

                True!!
                I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care. ~ Dave Barry

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                  #9
                  I don't see why this would put someone off. I'm of the "it can't hurt to ask" mindset, so to me it's no problem.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by shawneeAcres View Post
                    I get these fairly frequently, but often in response to a hrose for sale ad that I post! That does kind of irritate me, but just a polite email stating waht they are looking for and so on is fine, I often refer them to other farms that might need help
                    I get these in response to horse-for-sale & horse-at-stud ads, too. I don't have any positions right now & will turn down gently. But hit me at the right moment when I am looking for someone . . . it could work.

                    But please - sound professional, because otherwise, even if it is the right moment, an email from someone who is basically saying "It's all about me!" will get a quick rejection. The short version - nothing is about you when you send an email like this. You need to tell the person receiving the email what is in it for THEM, to even talk to you, much less hire you.

                    Good luck. It's not a bad strategy. Just make sure you set yourself up for success by telling the person receiving the email what is in it for THEM to even call you.
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                      #11
                      I got a groom job years ago doing this, but I called the barn. The girl(woman) that answered was the trainer's groom and turned out that she was looking to leave, so perfect timing for me!

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                        #12
                        It would not put me off at all. I would actually be impressed that the person wanted a job so much that they went through the hassle of looking at websites that were of interest to them and not just on-line ads. So many people lack work ethics these days, it really leaves a good impression with me when someone goes above and beyond.
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                          #13
                          I "cold-mailed" (not e-mailed, I didn't feel it was formal enough!) when I was looking for an internship/working student position a few years back. Nobody I contacted seemed to mind; I got positive responses from everyone. Most opted to e-mail back.

                          As a prospective employer, I wouldn't be put off by it. Other types of companies get calls/emails/letters like this; why not those in the horse industry?

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                            #14
                            This is how I've obtained most of my jobs for the past 10 years! I knew the places I wanted to work and I "cold contacted" them. It worked with all the places I was interested in, to the point that I had to choose between several offers. Of the past three jobs I've held, only one had an actual ad for the position.
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                              #15
                              I'll be the voice of dissent. I am the webmaster for my barn, and all of the emails are sent to me. The owner/trainer has specifically asked me to delete any cold solicitations for work. Her opinion is that the only people she wants are those that are recommended to her. I especially love the ones that don't know anything about horses but are "willing to learn."
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Nickelodian View Post
                                I'll be the voice of dissent. I am the webmaster for my barn, and all of the emails are sent to me. The owner/trainer has specifically asked me to delete any cold solicitations for work. Her opinion is that the only people she wants are those that are recommended to her. I especially love the ones that don't know anything about horses but are "willing to learn."
                                Certainly understand this sentiment.... unfortunately not all the talented and hard-working and knoweldgeable potential employees have the contacts to do it any other way. They may have had financial constraints that kept them in a local area, they may have taken a different route - Pony Club - whatever and simply do not know people who can recommend them in the direction they would like to go.

                                IMO being open to and politely responding to these requests is an easy way to "give back" to those trying to make it in a difficult profession. Plus, you never know which one of these may end of being able to do soimething for you in the future.

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                                  #17
                                  Many people get all kind of jobs (and clients) by cold calling. Nearly every sales professional makes their living by cold-calling. I would recommend you do some homework about each place you are planning to email.. learn about the services they offer - training, showing, boarding, breeding etc.. and their discipline.. when you email you can then make references to something on their website..Also agree sign yourself up for a normal not too cutesy email address.

                                  Best of luck to you

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                                    #18
                                    When I was in college and we were starting to look for jobs the career services office had seminars and sending out letters and emails asking about openings was one of the most likely way to get a job. So no, not unusual, people do it all the time!

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