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  • Anyone made their own liverpool before?

    Was going to order a liverpool recently but the place was out of stock. Found a good deal on one but I can't believe how much a lot of places are charging for them!

    Got me to thinking maybe I could make my own. I already have one that's a tarp style on landscape ties but I'm talking about one that would actually hold water.

    Looking at them it looks like big pieces of foam and then somehow wrapping and attaching some heavy vinyl. Without being able to dissect one though I'm not clear on how you wrap and attach

    I'm not too "crafty" but thought this might be a fun project and save some dollars if I could just figure out how to do it!

    Anyone else tackled this successfully or know how to do it?

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    We use the tarp and water on it. I think I would buy one; expecially if your not crafty! LOL
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    • #3
      Years ago when I did not want to spend a fortune on a liverpool, I used the inflatable pools that are made for kids. Later, we made a permanent water by purchasing a ready-made pond liner from the garden store.

      Both worked fine.
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        #4
        Originally posted by Lucassb View Post
        Years ago when I did not want to spend a fortune on a liverpool, I used the inflatable pools that are made for kids. Later, we made a permanent water by purchasing a ready-made pond liner from the garden store.

        Both worked fine.
        Hmmm...what size is the pond liner and what's it made of? Never even seen one. Is it blue?

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        • #5
          I've used blue astroturf. Doesn't hold water but had the same effect.

          And yes, liverpools are four pieces of foam with some heavy duty vinyl sewn around the foam. I bet you could make a model out of pencils and paper and then scale it up to make the real deal. Off the top of my head, I can't think how to cut the vinyl to make it lay flat but I might be able to figure it out later.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by murph View Post
            Hmmm...what size is the pond liner and what's it made of? Never even seen one. Is it blue?
            Liners themselves are just vinyl - comes in sheets. I personally would buy a ready made liverpool before trying the DIY route, because I don't think you'd save much and they aren't the easiest to install without leaks, etc.

            The ready made ponds come in all sorts of sizes, but most prefab pond kits are black, not blue.

            Any garden/landscape store will probably have a few to look at.
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            • #7
              I actually made one that held water all summer from a tarp and it looked very professional (not tarp like). It didn't leak for some reason. Didn't tear when missed and put a foot down in it. I made a liverpool out of blue and a open water out of gray. Both were "industrial" strength or something like that.. much thicker than an average tarp and about double the cost (maybe $12 for a 10x12 at walmart)

              What I did, is scrape the sand away to the base in a very clean measured rectangle, then laid the tarp down. Its almost impossible to change the shape once water is in it, so it has to be done right the first time. I took square poles and put them under the tarp at the edge of the sand border. This gave it a really neat edge. The tarp was tucked under the board (only had about 2" of extra tarp around each edge for the open water. Then pushed the sand back flush with the edge. I put standards brush boxes at the front and painted the back edge of the tarp white (love spray paint )

              The liverpool was similar but I used a shovel to move the sand instead of the box blade on the tractor since the liver pool was to be only 5'. I also had to wrap a few feet of tarp around one pole because I bought such a long one. I did have poles that were the right size to make the edge of the liver pool, so I just made sand banks and tuck the tarp under with a straight fold. It also held water great until you drop a rail over it and make a big spalsh... that loses a bit of water, lol!

              Before winter came, I knocked down a side to drain them, picked up the traps and poles, and drug the sand back over the "holes". I now have a perfectly flat, frozen arena!

              Were considering doing something silimar in the grass for next year and putting the grass we cut up on the track (so it gets watered like the arena without killing another section of grass), and then we can put the grass back down like sod if we want to.

              I have also considered putting down those ring mats, to make the water jump stronger and safer for when it gets stepped in. Next year I'm doing a blue one and a white one, so may have to paint the mats too!

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              • #8
                If you want edges to be foam, you can use those pool "noodles" that they sell for kids - they are flexible and relatively easy to cut to size. you can roll the tarp over these.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by OneMoreTime View Post
                  If you want edges to be foam, you can use those pool "noodles" that they sell for kids - they are flexible and relatively easy to cut to size. you can roll the tarp over these.
                  That's a great idea! I wonder how they'd hold up to be stepped on.

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                  • #10
                    Great ideas! I'd been trying to figure this out last summer. I didn't want to lay out the money to buy one, but was having trouble figuring out what to use that would be lightweight enough to be portable. Love the pool noodle idea.

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                    • #11
                      I made one for my trainer a few years ago. I purchased a heavy duty material from JoAnn's Fabrics - boating upholstery. It was a gift for our trainer after she lost her retired show mare.

                      First, I cut out a 4x6 rectangle from a piece of particle board. I cut out the center so that it would resemble a frame. The edges were "frame" was 4 inches thick.

                      Next, I glued 4inch (width and height) pieces of foam around the frame.

                      Lastly, I draped the upholstery over the foam/frame and attached it to the underside of the frame.

                      The upholstery is water-tight and never leaked.

                      http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...chrissjump.jpg

                      The liverpool by itself ended up running about 60 bucks. The standards cost us about the same to build. Horses have stepped on and in it and it has held up beautifully the past several years.

                      When empty, it probably weighs about 20 pounds.

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                        Originally posted by Burgie View Post
                        I made one for my trainer a few years ago. I purchased a heavy duty material from JoAnn's Fabrics - boating upholstery. It was a gift for our trainer after she lost her retired show mare.

                        First, I cut out a 4x6 rectangle from a piece of particle board. I cut out the center so that it would resemble a frame. The edges were "frame" was 4 inches thick.

                        Next, I glued 4inch (width and height) pieces of foam around the frame.

                        Lastly, I draped the upholstery over the foam/frame and attached it to the underside of the frame.

                        The upholstery is water-tight and never leaked.

                        http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...chrissjump.jpg

                        The liverpool by itself ended up running about 60 bucks. The standards cost us about the same to build. Horses have stepped on and in it and it has held up beautifully the past several years.

                        When empty, it probably weighs about 20 pounds.
                        Cool! That was the sort of thing I was thinking about.

                        Question - How did you tuck or fit the corners of your vinyl to the four corners of your foam? That's what is puzzling me. (obviously not a seamstress ) I want it to have tidy edges like you did but I feel like I would have to cut and fit around the foam and then it wouldn't be watertight anymore.

                        And did you wrap around the foam or something or just laid the vinyl over top, tuck (?) corners, and fasten the vinyl to the plywood underneath? How did you attach the vinyl to the plywood?

                        Thanks!

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                        • #13
                          Ahh - forgot about that.

                          We sort of tucked the material into the seams (between the foam). When the water is in it, the weight of the water keeps the vinyl tight.

                          We used a spray adhesive to attach the foam to the wood and then used zip-ties to help hold it in place. We didn't make the zipties all that tight - just enough to keep it secured. You can't tell they are there under the vinyl.

                          We attached the vinyl to the plywood with a staple gun.

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