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Spin-off: once you found your horse how much time did you spent with it before buying

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  • #21
    The last horse I bought I did so off a friend's recommendation.
    Someone tells me, "I have a horse you'll like" and I buy it.
    I meet it when it walks off the truck.

    I just got back from an auction with some friends to help them look for a project horse. Didn't find anything that trip but that is another situation where you pick out a horse that seems to fit the bill and then ride what comes off the truck.

    Personally, I don't look for horses anymore.
    I have enough of them coming to me on their own as it is.
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    • #22
      Horsey came in on a wednesday, decided we wanted to buy him on Saturday, signed the check/handed it over the next week after the PPE at a show where we knew we would see the owner instead of mailing it.
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      • #23
        Most recent horse I bought off its facebook pics (weanling, 3 days old). That took a day or two, as negotiations took place over facebook comments and then, as I realized I might actually buy a horse, email. ...and then I had a new horse.

        My previous horse I bought because my older horse retired and some friends needed to rehome a pretty OTTB with some training issues. I needed something to ride. I'd ridden him once when visiting my folks a few years previously and they boarded him at my parent's farm for the previous 2 years, so I at least knew there were no vet surprises. He turned out better than expected but the first year was a real rodeo.

        Horse before that was a barrel horse I bought on a whim after feeling his incredible canter. Best. Purchase. Ever. A number of BNTs tried to buy this horse from me when he was young -- he is a jumping fool. He has an amazing kick behind and unbelievable scope. I have a pic of him at his first show in the hopeful jumpers, clearing the tops of the 6' standards. Horse of a lifetime. I had no idea whether he could jump or not, but he had such a light and balanced natural canter I figured I would take my chances.

        I always try to buy horses with the best canter I can, they usually have a good jump too. And by best canter, I don't mean hack-winning canter, I mean balanced, light, naturally carrying their hind ends underneath themselves. It's usually pretty too, but flat knees don't matter much to me. But I don't like to buy horses that are already jumping -- I prefer to teach them to jump myself so they don't come with bad habits installed.

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        • #24
          1st - 7yo. (at the time)holsteiner. A/O horse. Belonged to a friend of mine, so I had ridden/handled him quite a bit before he was offered for sale.

          2nd - 7yo GOV mare. Site unseen from CT. Video/pics. Thats it.

          3rd - 14.1 Connemara. Site unseen - Camelot.

          4th - 4yo TB. Site unseen - New Holland.

          5th - 12.1 welsh. Site unseen - WI.

          6th - 2yo TB. Rock Point filly. Site unseen - NJ.

          I have totally lucked out. No one has had any lameness issues or really cost me anything other than routine horsey stuff. **KNOCK ON WOOD** Other than some ground issues we worked out when they arrived, they have all turned out to be quite lovely.

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          • #25
            About 1/2 an hour.
            OTTB right off the track, fresh off a 4 hour trailer ride.
            Visited him in his stall, he was lunged for me, then he asked if I wanted to get on. I w/t/c and JUMPED him in the indoor arena he had never seen before.
            Came with check in hand the next day, no vet check.
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            • #26
              Drove about 2.5 hours with my parents to look at a "docile, quiet, green 5 yo Mare". She was standing in the back of a dark stall facing the wall, looking quite un-enthused. Trainer free lunged her, she galloped and bucked like a moron, scared my very non-horsey parents, trainer wtc her, I got on, w/t, a few poles, left. Parents agreed, went back for vet check next week and left with the girl I've had for 13 years!
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              • #27
                Both of mine came from the sales, so about an hour, tops.
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                • #28
                  About 45 minutes on the first visit, a week later I came back to see him a second time and spent about 2 hours with him. Vet checked him two days later and he came home with me that weekend. He was an unbroke two year old, so no riding.

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                  • #29
                    First horse- I'd ridden him several times, but wasn't looking to buy (I was just excercising him, riding him for my lessons) and everyone was surprised how well I (an advanced-beginner) rider did with him (a handful!) Few months later, he's still for sale and price dropped. I liked him, parents gave the ok, I rode him in one (or 2? forget, lol) more lessons, then bought him. Didn't vet him.

                    Second horse- saw him at the track. Standing/sleeping in his stall. Nice horse, way too much $$ for my price range, basically forgot about him. Got a phone call 2 months later, "if you still like that horse and want him, his price dropped, you have 48 hours to decide and pick him up" So went and got him. Never saw him go, not even a walk or jog, friend who had been interested in buying him had vetted him, but something came up on xray (which is why the price dropped and he wasn't selling, too big a risk/not likely to resell) so I got the vet records and all that.

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                    • #30
                      Horse #1 - About an hour, drove 13 hours to Kentucky to see him though. It was worth it, love at first sight.
                      Horse #2 - Pity purchase, took about 5 min at an auction.
                      Horse #3 - Was out for about 2 days, saw him a total of maybe 5 hours?
                      Horse #4 - I knew her for a few years before I finally bought her.
                      Horse #5 - 5 mins. She was a giveaway off this board, and I had great references from a prior owner as well. She is great!

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                      • #31
                        Horse #1: Drove 5 hours, rode him approx. 20-30 minutes, liked him, went home to wait on jumping pictures. Showed those to trainer, set up vetting and bought horse.

                        Horse #2: Drove 5 hours (in the other direction), rode him maybe 20-30 minutes, went home to show trainer video and discuss. Set up vetting and bought horse.

                        Notice a pattern?

                        Hindsight...should've ridden horse #1 again...probably in less than 100 degree heat (but I'm not quite sure how to set that up). He's G-R-E-A-T when it's that hot. But where he lives now (upper 60s to mid 70s for 9 months a year, 50s the other 3 months) he's a little spookier than I had wanted to deal with.

                        Probably should've ridden horse #2 again, but it's turning out just fine (I've had him about 1.5 years).
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                        • #32
                          My first two horses, probably a combined total of about two hours each.

                          My current horse, no time, he was listed through AC4H and it was the craziest/ luckiest thing I have ever done
                          \"Tomorrow is a new day with no mistakes in it.\" Anne of Green Gables

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                          • #33
                            Horses 1-3 bought when I was a junior, with both me and trainers riding them, but not any quality time spent with them. Since they were all sales horses to be flipped, the focus was on good temperament and ability, not how snuggly they were!

                            Current horse- well, he was a rank bastard at the time, who was pretty much gnashing his teeth at us, so it was a very businesslike visit, with no lingering! Later that night I called up the owner and bought him. I bought him for the promise of his ability and the hope that he could be turned into a good citizen. It was a good gamble!
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                            • #34
                              #1 was my lesson horse so about 2 days if you add all the lessons up. She was amazing and took care of me.
                              #2 Drove 3 hours and was hooked the moment she came out of the pasture. She proceeded to mimic a bad bronc for the first 30 minutes of the ride. I was laughing so hard at her attempts to get me off the owner was worried I was crying. She was all that and a blonde to boot and I miss her EVERY Day.
                              #3 Auction - him I shouldn't have bought. Despite brain surgery (gelding), a well respected trainer, and a half way decent show record he and I managed to do more damage to each other than we were willing to forgive. Him my dad moved on while I was recovering in the hospital. (New Owner knew his issues and irony would have it that horse made money on the track.)
                              There have been horses I have bought mostly through the auction for resale and I've been pretty lucky with those.
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                              What serious breeder would think that a horse at that performance level is push button? Even so, that's still a lot of buttons to push.

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                              • #35
                                Last 5 horses we have purchased:

                                Horse #1: Trainer (my old boss) called me up and told me one of the horses I had groomed was headed to auction and meat - did I want him? He was 3 at the time and I had only known him within the confines of the track (never ridden him), probably about 4 months or so. Was extremely laid back at the track and turned out better than I had hoped for. Now 6, fantastic dressage prospect on whom we have since had several offers (he looks like a Warmblood and moves well), but who is a great trail horse for my unconfident re-rider mom (he is her horse). Adjusts himself appropriate to his rider and is also currently half-leased and teaching two novices (a 12yo girl and her dad), including jumping recently

                                Horse #2: 4yo gelding I knew on the track (again, not u/s) and had kept tabs on him after I left the track - loved this horse's playfullness, athleticism, and competitive edge. He was SUCH a character, though a bit of a problem horse on the track. Kicked people whenever he had the chance, reared regularly in the paddock, a terrror u/s who was always poised to explode. Purchased him for well above what I was expecting to pay :S and despite having to work through a number of dangerous issues, he has turned out to be all I expected and more as a phenomenal partner I hope to compete at the UL with (fingers crossed!). Definitely lived up to the potential I could see underneath and is now great behaviourally.

                                Horse #3: Current 3yo CWB filly who fit my search criteria. All negotiations etc were worked out via email prior to our seeing her in person. Thought she was a bit on the small side when I first laid eyes on her, but liked how she had filled out since the photos I had been given of her. Spent maybe an hour with her in the crossties and playing her with the arena and I was smitten (even though she tried to bite me several times, haha). Her personality was exactly what I was looking for in an UL prospect. Spent another hour with her the next morning, after the papers were signed. So far, so good, though I will have a better idea of what she's about after I start her u/s next spring.

                                Horse #4: Sort of fell into my lap. 4yo OTTB mare. Spent maybe 10min with her prior to hashing out a price and signing the papers. Great conformation, hunter movement, exuded that great ammy mind and personality (what I was looking for in a resale). Turned out better than I could have expected! Wonderful mind (one of the best), beautiful mover, intelligent mare without a bad bone in her body. Excellent resale project

                                Horse #5: Horse I knew off the track, 8yo OTTB. Wanted to buy him to retire him - no expectations of him though if he could be pleasure ridden, that would be a bonus. PHENOMENAL mind, probably the best I have worked with - took to pleasure riding regardless of the situation (western saddle, loose rein in a double-jointed O-ring snaffle - whether out in the field or with a wicked storm brewing around us) like a duck to water. Looks after his rider. Hopefully now we can just keep him sound enough to keep him around for more years to come!

                                Horse #6: Not a horse I actually purchased and thus not included in my count but one who sort of fell into my lap. Owner contacted me looking to have him trained but later instead offered him to me for free due to his issues. Spent maybe an hour with this horse beforehand, playing with him on the ground, to gain insight into his issues. Severely abused and required a ton of work to undo all the damage and earn his trust, but was another one of the best minds I have ever had the pleasure of working with - amazing animal who was living up to the potential I saw underneath. Unfortunately we had to euthanize him this September due to a freak pasture accident :S

                                So most of my actual purchases (3/5) were horses I previously knew, though none of the 6 have been horses I rode prior. All have turned out better than I could have ever imagined. I am lucky though in that I do have a good eye though (for potential, personality, etc) and am comfortable in my abilities as a trainer developing and re-starting a horse or dealing with any issues that may arise to develop a horse to the potential I see, which makes it easier if I do not see the full depth of the horse within the timespan and constraints of the situation in which I see it.

                                I highly recommend anyone, unless an experienced rider comfortable with just about any issue that may be thrown at you, to take along someone more experienced than yourself who might be able to see small signs you might otherwise miss. Spend as much time as possible with the horse and at least try it out u/s. I recommend the horse be tried out at least 3 times or so so that the horse has a chance to become comfortable with you and throw either their worst or best at you. After that, have a trainer you trust at hand, and be prepared to work through potential issues that could arise in your partnership. It is more about the rider than the horse
                                ....horses should be trained in such a way that they not only love their riders, but look forward to the time they are with them.
                                ~ Xenophon, 350 B.C.

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                                • #36
                                  tried, week long trial. bought.

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                                  • #37
                                    Drove 4 hours to a neighboring state with DH white-knuckled in fog and sleet. Rode for 45 mins while DH shivered and videoed/photographed. Wasn't enthused/in love at all.

                                    Sent trainer video and photos upon return home to confirm that he "wasn't the one".
                                    Trainer sent me back (4 hours) to ride him again with a list of "things to try".
                                    Started to see what he saw after half hour schooling session and a short dressage lesson. The flawless jumping of every crazy thing we put in front of him didn't hurt either.
                                    Arranged for a two week trial at my barn with my trainer, so drove back again (4 more hours) to bring him home. The first week was not stellar, with both of us trying to decide about each other and both on a very steep learning curve. But after that first week, when he trotted up to me at the turnout gate; eager, willing and happy to see me (and still does to this day) .. I was hooked.
                                    PPE and paperwork done - he was mine by the end of the trial

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                                    • #38
                                      Rode him three days in a row, made an offer and he was on a plane 3 weeks later!

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                                      • #39
                                        Originally posted by justagreen View Post
                                        Drove 4 hours to a neighboring state with DH white-knuckled in fog and sleet. Rode for 45 mins while DH shivered and videoed/photographed. Wasn't enthused/in love at all.

                                        Sent trainer video and photos upon return home to confirm that he "wasn't the one".
                                        Trainer sent me back (4 hours) to ride him again with a list of "things to try".
                                        Started to see what he saw after half hour schooling session and a short dressage lesson. The flawless jumping of every crazy thing we put in front of him didn't hurt either.
                                        Arranged for a two week trial at my barn with my trainer, so drove back again (4 more hours) to bring him home. The first week was not stellar, with both of us trying to decide about each other and both on a very steep learning curve. But after that first week, when he trotted up to me at the turnout gate; eager, willing and happy to see me (and still does to this day) .. I was hooked.
                                        PPE and paperwork done - he was mine by the end of the trial

                                        Not quite sure why, but I just love this story for some reason. Maybe it's the silk purse out of what could have been, for you, a sow's ear if you hadn't had your trainer to show you those glistening silken fibres in his make-up.

                                        Maybe it's this so-so horse realizing just what a grand deal he has w/you and is blossoming to your patience and attention!

                                        Maybe it's cause my favorite horses are always the ones I have to go the furthest to reach training-wise and really teach me to stretch what I previously thought were my "limits".

                                        Maybe it's 'cause you were willing to give this guy a chance and you persevered when others would have given up!!!!!!

                                        Great story. <gggg>
                                        Never explain yourself to someone who is committed to misunderstanding you.

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                                        • #40
                                          I purchased my horse, sight unseen through my sister 12 hours away. She found a horse that was the spitting image of our beloved pony. Luckily for me, my horse has turned out great but I think that was more due to fate than my sound buying practice.

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