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    Hi, I'm an alter. I need some advice about my trainer. I'm scared to face reality but I know the wonderful COTHers can me help decide what to do.

    I think my trainer is selling drugs. I have witnessed a few things around the barn that make me think she's doing drugs and selling them. What should I do? I'm scared to report her but I think illegal things are going on both at the horse shows and at home.

  • #2
    There's probably an anonymous TIP (Turn In a Pusher) line where you are. Call and leave an anonymous tip. They will investigate. If it's true, she needs to be stopped.
    Donald Trump - proven liar, cheat, traitor and sexual predator! Hillary Clinton won in 2016, but we have all lost.


    • #3
      Is this a trick question? Why would you be afraid to do what you know is the right thing to do? Do you want your horse to remain in the care of someone whose judgment may be impaired?
      "Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can?" Sun Tzu

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      • #4
        If you even guess this is the case, and your horse lives on property she owns/ leases; and she gets busted... Your animal/ tack etc. can get tangled into an awful mess. If nothing else. RUN


        • #5
          Yup. just quietly leave.
          Horses are amazing athletes and make no mistake -- they are the stars of the show!


          • #6
            I've thought about doing an intervention instead of turning her in to the police. Has anyone ever done something like that? But what if I'm wrong? How embarrassing would that be?


            • #7
              Originally posted by purplnurpl View Post
              Yup. just quietly leave.
              And THEN call.
              The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET


              • #8
                I would not get into the middle of it with an "intervention". I would 1) find a new barn 2) leave and just come up with a "good excuse" and 3) send in an anonymous tip.


                • #9
                  If you are correct - you should leave
                  If you feel (as you state) strange things are happening - you should leave

                  Leave and report your suspicions - that is what the Police are paid to do.


                  • #10
                    Real interventions are not like on TV-people can, and do, get shot walking uninvited into somebody else's house particularly if they are involved in illegal activities-no Dr Drew either.

                    Lets get real on that one. And it sounds like there is no hard proof. That TIP line is the best way to notify authorities of suspicious activity-and it is anonymous to protect you from retribution whether you are right or wrong...and the cops DO persue these leads.

                    If there is anything making you uncomfortable in any barn-just leave.
                    And you need to do just that.

                    Whoever mentioned trouble if there is a bust? Dead on, everything on the property is siezed and everybody...as in EVERYBODY...is under suspicion until cleared.

                    Oh, let me add it sounds like you are fond of this trainer? Well...if she is trafficking she is using you and your horse as a front for her illegal activity and probably her business as a laundry for drug profits. She is taking advantage of your feelings and loyalty...she ain't going to miss you if you go.
                    When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                    The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.


                    • #11
                      agreed with find eight. additionally, interventions are used by people close to the addict to let them know they know there is a problem - and more importantly, to inform them that if they don't address it, to let them know there will be dire consequences to their closest relationships.

                      the real power of an intervention is the stakes involved - the addict realizes they are going to lose the people closest to them if they refuse to get help. that's what provides the incentive for them to try to change (though the success rate with interventions is quite low - an addict has to be ready on their own terms to get well.) at any rate, it doesn't sound like you are in that place at all with your trainer - additionally if you're not even sure this is going on there's just no place in this for you to intercede. even though you're probably right - (if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, etc.)

                      i say just move your horse and go. this is a big deal, and not something to get tangled up in.


                      • #12
                        OP, by contemplating an intervention (not to be taken lightly), are you trying to save your trainer? Or are you trying to save your own boarding/training situation which you see as threatened by her suspected drug use and dealing?

                        Walk away. Whether or not you report her suspected illegal activity is another question entirely.
                        "Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can?" Sun Tzu

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                        • #13
                          No intervention. Leave quietly. Tip anonymously.


                          • #14
                            That kind of thing is not unheard of in a lot of sport organizations...you don't want your name anywhere NEAR hers when she falls. Get out, now. Trust the COTHers...it doesn't really matter WHAT it is that makes you uncomfortable at a barn, but this is your (very expensive) hobby. You deserve to have confidence in your trainer and the barn.

                            Even if you are like me 500km from any actual boarding facility...there are ALWAYS other options for you and your horse. Better options.

                            Leave on good terms, and DO NOT dig in to the issue. If you truly suspect illegal activity, make a good faith report after you are well free from association with the person/place.
                            Lifestyle coordinator for Zora, Spooky, Wolfgang and Warrior


                            • #15
                              You all know how it is... it is never uncomplicated. I am not in a position to just walk away or leave quietly. I have one horse leased to another customer there and another horse is part of a partnership. I've made a lot of investments both financially and emotionally.

                              What if it was just pot? It seems like something is going on because grooms from other barns have been driving in lately, she comes out of the office and talks with them for a minute and they leave and there is this weird little hand tap on the car door and then she puts her hand back in her pocket.... maybe it's the other way around? Maybe she's buying pot or something from THEM?

                              There is definitely something not right going on I just can't quite put my finger on it.


                              • #16
                                Oh, Interventions are when family and friends, under the guidence of a paid professional, act to get addicts to realize they are killing themselves. Usually the addict is removed and commited to in house rehab and intensive therapy...not free of charge either, sometimes requires court involvement.

                                If the trainer is dealing, providing the means for other addicts to kill themselves-that is not an intervention, that would be an arrest.
                                When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                                The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.


                                • #17
                                  What if it was just pot?
                                  Pretty sure that if you live in the US, there's no such thing as "just pot."

                                  Seriously, life sucks sometimes. As a responsible adult however, you are sort of duty-bound to do something if you know this is going on. The law will see you as culpable if/when she gets caught. Decide how much the partnership and lease are worth, I suppose. Also, if YOU'VE noticed, OTHER people have...and how long do you think this will go unreported? Trust me, if there are kids at this barn and she really is dealing...bloody hell, you do NOT want your name near that...and if someone's parent knows you KNEW ABOUT IT AND DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING?

                                  Now, if your relationship with this trainer is decent, you could ask her what is going on. In a non-threatening, non-public environment. If you are satisfied with the answer, there you go.
                                  Lifestyle coordinator for Zora, Spooky, Wolfgang and Warrior


                                  • #18
                                    I was going to say your trainer must be our old trainer, but she was a pill popper, I wish it had been "just pot" . We walked away (resisting the urge to run) from that trainer.

                                    I would try to get out, especially if it is a "dealing" type situation as opposed to using. That's pretty scary stuff!


                                    • #19
                                      Maybe they just have bad backs and are picking up some muscle relaxants from the nice lady....

                                      You said that one horse is part of a partnership, is the trainer your partner? That could complicate things.

                                      What is your relationship with the person who leases your horse? What does your contract say about moving barns?

                                      I think you should just ask the trainer. Phrase it jokingly if you are too nervous to confront her directly. Hopefully she will answer honestly and you will have your answer and can act accordingly.


                                      • #20
                                        Thing is, with a training barn, there are younger kids around so it would not be "just" anything if and when the law steps in. If you are noticing this activity, others are too and if it's increasing? Only a matter of time before somebody blabs or she sells to a narc. Most of these types branch out from "just pot" pretty quick, they make more money on crack, coke and oxy etc.

                                        And, far as not being in a position to leave? You may have to do so involuntarily so get a plan B in place quickly.

                                        One other thing, having personal experience with addicts, they lie and steal. Alot. Ethics and morals are destroyed.

                                        My best friend in high school and college, beautiful girl, good family, died at age 50 of liver and kidney failure, a heroin addict and ward of the state. Last time I saw her she was about 30, out in the back of the show barns handing off a baggie of white powder to a groom and stuffing a wad of bills in her pocket. I was later question by police who came to my home. That'll wake you up. I distanced myself from her pretty quick-and never heard of or from her again after being friends fo 15 years. Nice.

                                        So I do feel strongly about where this leads and how you can get sucked into guilt by association.
                                        When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                                        The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.