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Clipping my horse, parents and trainer against it?

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  • Clipping my horse, parents and trainer against it?

    Let's start off by explaining my situation. I just graduated from college last May and was lucky enough to land a job. I have finally saved up enough to board my horse out where I work in Cortland. He was just moved to the new barn yesterday.

    I appreciate my parents and my trainer (who is now like a second grandmother to me I have been so close and with her for so long) dropping him off and making sure everything is okay, but having them lecture the people at the barn about NOT letting me clip him was embarrassing... and a little frustrating.

    He is currently in Cortland, NY. I haven't experience a winter here yet, but attended Cazenovia College, where all the lesson horses were clipped and blanketed with a stable blanket and turnout blanket.

    After they left yesterday, I rode my fuzzball/yak/wooly mammoth yesterday, and even after a light ride of trotting and little cantering, he was sweating ridiculously. I want to clip him, but haven't ever clipped my own horse in the winter, only in the spring when he had a sheet on.

    My trainer proceeded to call me after she got home to make sure I wasn't going to clip him or he was going to get sick.

    What do I do? He's going to be ridden every day for at least 30 min to an hour, and the fact that it takes an hour+ to dry him off makes me just want to clip him. He will be blanketed (He usually gets a stable blanket and sheet in the winter anyway).

    I don't think clipping him will be a problem as long as he's blanketed properly, but how do I let my parents know that he's going to be okay? Is it alright that I clip him?

    I just want to make sure everything is okay before I give myself the green light to clip him as long as he has blankets to cover his naked self.

    Ideas? Suggestions? No matter how many examples I give my parents of horses that are body clipped, they just don't think he should be clipped.

  • #2
    I would say "Mom and Dad and Aunt Trainer, I appreciate your help, support and input, but now that I am caring for Poopsie on my own I find that I do not have enough time to properly dry him out after he sweats so I have decided to clip him"

    Or just clip him and say nothing. If they "catch" you you tell them you appreciate their input but clipping was best for him and you in your new situation.
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    • #3
      If he's blanketed and in work, then he should be clipped! What good does having long hair do if it's flattened with blankets??? He'll actually probably get colder with the long hair because after riding if he's not totally dry and then blanketed and turned out he won't retain body warmth properly and get a chill that way! I live in a climate that regularly gets to -30C (Alberta, Canada) and ALL of our horese are clipped (except for the legs) and in full work and we blanket to turn out!!

      CLIP HIM!!!!
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      • #4
        Happy medium--do a light trace clip and make sure you still cool him out thoroughly after you ride.

        That is if you are the one footing ALL of his bills. If not, then sorry, they still have a say.


        • #5
          Why not compromise....do a trace clip.
          To Teach is to learn twice.


          • #6
            Originally posted by huntingcreek View Post
            Why not compromise....do a trace clip.


            • Original Poster

              Thanks for your input. They don't pay for any bills and don't really have a say anyway, I just wanted to see what you guys think so I could justify it in case I was questioned!

              I have considered doing different clips instead of a full body clip - and he does have a 400g turnout blanket and rubbermaid bins full of sheets and stable blankets in case the weather takes a turn for the worse.


              • #8
                Originally posted by horsegal301 View Post
                Thanks for your input. They don't pay for any bills and don't really have a say anyway, I just wanted to see what you guys think so I could justify it in case I was questioned!

                I have considered doing different clips instead of a full body clip - and he does have a 400g turnout blanket and rubbermaid bins full of sheets and stable blankets in case the weather takes a turn for the worse.
                I am quite north of you (almost Canada LOL), but around here there is only one person I know of who does a full body clip....but her horse never goes out in winter and is blanketed head-to-toe pretty much year round (he's a leopard spotted Appy that is mostly white).

                In this area, I would most likely only do a trace clip, because it's just so stinking cold in the winter and I hate having to put horses in hoods. Mind you, I only ride 3-4 days a week and am not schooling any that I ride over fences right now. I won't ride if it's below 15 degrees, either....too cold for my blood!


                • #9
                  I third (or fourth) the idea of a trace clip. I just did one on my horse and it's making life so much easier. I might even go a little further with it since she's still getting sweatier that I'd like, but I live in the Mid-Atlantic so it usually doesn't get too cold here, nothing like what you get in upstate NY.


                  • #10
                    I have full clipped my horse years on end. Important is that he is blanketed accordingly and has a stall for night.

                    Me thinks that your trainer and parents only know NY to be freezing and snowey when infact it is quite livable here compared to say, Canada

                    I would have been a bit like wtf if my trainer/prents gave the new barn staff a run down of why you are not to clip your horse. But then again, Parents pay the bills


                    • #11
                      You need to help them see the error of their ways.... that the apron strings can and should be cut.

                      If you can't make a decision about when to clip your own damned horse after you have graduated from college and gotten a job, then when is the right time?

                      Or let your Mama(s) know that they can helicopter in and hand walk him until he's dry in the dark cold of Central NY after work if they want to keep him furry.
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                      • #12
                        I'm in a similar (if not colder) climate & I full body clip all winter (and fall & spring). I can't understand why anyone would be opposed to it. There is no reason NOT to. I think if your horse is in full work and sweats when you ride & takes forever to cool down/dry out afterward it's kind of cruel not to clip him - as long as you can bundle him up in a cozy blanket!
                        I live in an area with lots and lots of barns, mostly show barns, and I don't know anyone (really!) that doesn't full body clip their horse. Many get all day turnout (wearing appropriate clothing for the temperature - 400 grams is pretty heavy for all day, he might get too hot in the middle of the day if the sun comes out) and they'll be out in the cold and snow happily snug in their snowsuits. Even neck covers are rare.
                        Clip the poor horse and save him and yourself grief.


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mvp View Post

                          Or let your Mama(s) know that they can helicopter in and hand walk him until he's dry in the dark cold of Central NY after work if they want to keep him furry.
                          Heh heh heh. That's the ticket.
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                          • #14
                            I like a clip like this for horses who get sweaty, but not enough to need a full body clip. And it looks cool . http://i51.tinypic.com/2z9fmlu.jpg

                            I prefer to leave the legs furry, but I did that before and the barn people clipped the legs later . So with this guy, I clipped to his knees and blended the hair so his lower legs are still furry.
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                            • #15
                              Trace clip all the way!

                              If your horse is furry and blanketed, he may well overheat even when he's not being ridden.

                              I think it's kinder to help your horse regulate his body heat in the winter through clipping if you are going to keep him in work.

                              I do a trace clip on my boy and then blanket him. He lives out 24/7 and has been fine.

                              Here's my horse from last year. So far I've only done a bib clip on him but will be taking more off soon.

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                              • #16
                                Well, I vote with everyone else that you should do what you want. My horses live out in much milder weather and I do self care, so I can't really change up their blankets all the time...
                                I have found a compromise to be a bib clip, similar to the one amastrike shows except I leave the legs furry and do clip to just beyond their girth (that makes a big difference!).

                                This way I can keep them in plenty of work all winter and only need a waterproof sheet to keep them dry in cold rain. They do fine even down to the 20s and occasional teens, snow, etc. Once in a while I'll use a hair dryer after a workout.

                                But, in the end, your horse, your decision.
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                                The little brother, now my main man


                                • #17
                                  CLIP! IMHO, if you ride him unclipped, he gets sweaty. More chance of getting sick b/c he is standing sweaty and cold (of course with a cooler on) in the barn aisle for an HOUR while he dries. Clip him. He's yours. You are an adult now. Go for it.


                                  • #18
                                    Yep, clip him. It is much easier on both of you if he can cool out properly which, unless you have an hour or two (who does!?) to let him completely dry. I lived in Montana for a long time with horses, and finally the winter before I moved away, I trace clipped my horse. It was amazing! To top it off, he spent the winter comfortably turned out 24/7 with a medium-weight turnout and a run-in shed.

                                    I think he is much more likely to get chilled if you are in a hurry and he gets put up damp under his blankets. If your folks and trainer are incensed by your decision, send them here and we'll give them all the good reasons why you made it.
                                    Leap, and the net will appear


                                    • #19
                                      I just did a blanket clip today (i did an apron/bib clip like amastrikes last year only left her legs alone.. but she would be a sweaty mess on warmer days..). I of course say clip him, it will make your life easier


                                      • #20
                                        If you would see the scuz and skin irritation that results from an unclipped horse sweating/drying/sweating/drying over and over again, you wouldn't hesitate to clip him. Unless you are prepared to give him, at a bare minimum, a hose off everytime he sweats after riding, please do your horse a favor and clip him. His skin will thank you for it.