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  • Possible Prospect????

    Hello Fellow Cothers...

    I LOVE Dapple Greys and came across this gelding. I am hoping for some oppinions on this guy. I am looking for a 3' hunter prospect. What do you think?

    http://www.youtube.com/user/cashdebb.../6/-pjeAkeLMmI

    There are a couple of short clips of him jumping as well.

    Thanks in advance!!!!

  • #2
    Cute thing, remember, "dapple" greys don't stay that way.

    He's a young thing, and very downhill. As a consequence, he is falling on his forehand. Experience and training could get him to sit back more, however at this time, he is so on his forehand, he can't get his shoulder out in front of him to reach with his front. This limits him coming up to the fences, which makes him look like he's going to trip over them.

    I don't like that he can't get his front end up in front of him, and becuase of this, too, his trot is short and fast and made me anxious just watching him. I don't know how big he is, but he looks like a pony, and moves like one.

    Even a pony I would want to be able to see sit back on his haunches and power out. This horse doesn't have anything to recommend me as a horse which can jump.

    But if you like the pretty color, go for it!!
    Airborne? Oh. Yes, he can take a joke. Once. After that, the joke's on you.

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      #3
      thanks anotherround. he is 15.3 and i do agree is on his forehand and does have a VERY fast trot. I am not looking to go to any AA shows, but just for a nice pretty hunter. Thanks I will take that into consideration.

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      • #4
        I think he's worth going to look at. I think the video is deceptive--I don't think he's really going that fast. He's cute, but maybe a bit short strided--is he a QH? Will he be an A show winner? Perhaps not, but definitely could train up to be a good citizen and fun ride for someone not looking to do the circuit.
        Proud member of the "Don't rush to kill wildlife" clique!

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        • #5
          Because of that trot and because he is on the forehand, I don't think he makes a nice, pretty hunter. Like I said, watching him makes me anxious, and a hunter should look long and low and safe and confident and competent.

          A hunter should look like he is taking his rider for a safe ride through complex environment; he should look like he can move out and handle himself over obstacles; this horse does not engender safety or look like he could handle a decent fence without tripping.

          Not a pretty ride; not a prospect in my opinion. Keep going.

          Personally, I would want to stick him if I was told he was 15.3!! My last 15.3 QH looked like a 16.1 hand Handy Hunter and moved like it.

          If you only wanted this horse to hack, I still wouldn't recommend it because of the downhill problem.

          Remember, many many horses have been inbred for downhill-ness for other disciplines, and we will find them in our hunts for jumper prospects. Doesn't mean they really are well suited to be a jumper.

          Good luck! Keep on keeping on! I don't hink this one is it!
          Airborne? Oh. Yes, he can take a joke. Once. After that, the joke's on you.

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          • #6
            It's 8. As a "prospect", that's stretching it. It's also pony-gaited, a bad mover, quick at the jumps, and extremely crooked. To be blunt, it looks like a training nightmare to get it suitable to go around the 3', let alone be competitive.
            I'm a huge grey fan as well, but this horse doesn't appeal to me at all. You can do better, and get yourself something easier to fix, even at that price.

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            • #7
              If you like him, buy him.

              Hes not an A circuit type, but would do well at schooling shows. Safe, fun and the job that YOU want him to do is most impotant. Just because he isnt a flashy A circuit hunter, doesnt mean he cant be a local 3' star!!

              He looks sweet, easy and amateur friendly.

              You never said your budget either, or what level you plan to show. These things make a huge difference in whether he's a good investment for you.

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              • #8
                This.

                Define your goals and priorities and look for a horse that matches. He may be too short strided to make an A hunter, but if he's safe, friendly, has a nice brain and you enjoy riding him then you may want to keep him on your long list.

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                • #9
                  I agree with Another Round...watching this horse makes me anxious. A hunter should look happy and relaxed and this horse looks crabby and tense to me. I know the video quality is off - at least I hope he's not trotting that fast! But he doesn't give the appearance of long and low.

                  It's very difficult to evaluate his potential as a 3' hunter over such tiny jumps with that video quality. Hard to tell if he uses himself well over the jump.
                  ~ Citizens for a Kinder, Gentler COTH...our mantra: Be nice. ~

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                  • #10
                    He made me a little anxious also. He was short, quick and choppy looking. He also looked sort of tense and carried his head up. None of these qualities makes me think hunter.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CBoylen View Post
                      It's 8. As a "prospect", that's stretching it. It's also pony-gaited, a bad mover, quick at the jumps, and extremely crooked. To be blunt, it looks like a training nightmare to get it suitable to go around the 3', let alone be competitive.
                      I'm a huge grey fan as well, but this horse doesn't appeal to me at all. You can do better, and get yourself something easier to fix, even at that price.
                      Completely agreed. Looks like a ton of work and not something I'd ever want to pilot around 3'. Sorry.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CBoylen View Post
                        It's 8. As a "prospect", that's stretching it. It's also pony-gaited, a bad mover, quick at the jumps, and extremely crooked. To be blunt, it looks like a training nightmare to get it suitable to go around the 3', let alone be competitive.
                        I'm a huge grey fan as well, but this horse doesn't appeal to me at all. You can do better, and get yourself something easier to fix, even at that price.
                        This x 100.
                        Originally posted by tidy rabbit
                        Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

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                        • Original Poster

                          #13
                          Thanks everyone!!! If anyone knows of any dapple greys out there (under 10k), please pass them along. I am only looking to go to local shows next year, maybe just one rated the following year. No money in the budget. Oh what I would give to be independently wealthy.

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                          • #14
                            Where are you located?
                            Airborne? Oh. Yes, he can take a joke. Once. After that, the joke's on you.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by llltf3 View Post
                              Thanks everyone!!! If anyone knows of any dapple greys out there (under 10k), please pass them along. I am only looking to go to local shows next year, maybe just one rated the following year. No money in the budget. Oh what I would give to be independently wealthy.
                              For what it's worth, I feel that I should mention that shopping for horses based on color is maybe not the best idea, right? Not to mention that the color you're looking for is going to change as the horse gets older...
                              Originally posted by tidy rabbit
                              Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

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                              • #16
                                ^ That, and the whole melanoma/cancer susceptibility thing.

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                                • Original Poster

                                  #17
                                  I know I might be a little crazy for wanting a dapple grey. I know they will change, but some of them do not. I am in VA. I will find one, I am sure!!! Thanks for all of the replies!!!

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                                  • #18
                                    Ummm, they ALL change color if they are a grey. Some not until later in life but they change, trust me. If they are actually roan and mislabeled grey, they may not.

                                    Anyway, this one is never going to make a Hunter at any age and knows very little at age 8 going on 9. Hunters at any level must have a nice, rythmical canter and track up well under at the trot or they have nothing to jump out of and no power behind.

                                    So, if you want a Hunter, even local, they still have to have a nice jump. This one physically cannot do it and it's not something you can teach.
                                    When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                                    The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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                                    • #19
                                      http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...043495599.html

                                      Just saw this on CL...not sure if she would make a 3' prospect though....but if she is near you it may be worth trying her out.

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                                      • #20
                                        At this price, you'd have plenty left over for training: http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...&directory=296

                                        Not grey, but pretty cute and well within your budget:
                                        http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...&directory=313
                                        Please don't sabotash my conchess.

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