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Another Hunter Sire question...sorry

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  • Another Hunter Sire question...sorry

    First, I want to apologize for yet another sire thread. But, I could really use some input from experienced breeders/riders.

    I am looking to breed one of my TB mares to a warmblood.

    What Hunter stallion will do this:

    -Pass on quiet, easy, ammy friendly disposition

    -Pass on movement (improves movement on mare)

    -Pass on jumping form

    -Pass on long neck

    I want him to mirror my mare's strengths which are:

    -Strong, deep hip

    -Correct leg set

    -Balance with short back (long backs are my pet peeve so he must throw short backs)

    -Bone and substance (I want to keep it)

    -Good canter

    What am I willing to give up:

    -Movement (prefer above average mover at the trot but does not have to be a "10")

    -Do not need refinement

    -Do not need "bling"

    Do not need IHF nominated or even registered with breed registry if he has performance record

    -Do not need Jumping scope

    -Do not need him to throw size (as long as he throws width)

    What is my most important thing he pass on: Disposition (easy to start under saddle; great for child-amateur; won't need lunging endlessly; uncomplicated).

    He MUST be proven as a sire AND performer. No unproven stallions please...

    Any input would be very much appreciated if you are all not sick of this topic!!!

    She is due to foal in April so I am starting my search now as good stud deals can be had with early bookings.....
    Last edited by pokeyman; Sep. 24, 2010, 08:35 AM.

  • #2
    You probably want Shine. He was quiet and easy when he was showing, and doesn't have any flaws that would interfere with your requirements. I haven't been around any of his offspring closely enough to tell anything concrete about them, but the horse itself fits with your goals, so I suggest you look into them further.


    • #3
      Cunningham - but you will probably get some size and scope.

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      • #4
        Shine is still showing, doing the derbies only now though...and very very well.

        I'd recommend westporte.
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        • #5
          Shine is still showing, doing the derbies only now though...and very very well.
          Really? Sorry, I lost track of him after he left the east coast, and figured he'd be retired by now.


          • #6
            Originally posted by CBoylen View Post
            Really? Sorry, I lost track of him after he left the east coast, and figured he'd be retired by now.
            Nope, he's done quite well in Texas. Was a saint to his adult amateur owner.

            Shine and Cunningham were the two that first came to mind. Although, as EquineLVR said, Cunningham would add size. Shine is a bit smaller.


            • #7
              Cunningham was the first that came to my mind as well. He would seem to be a great choice for your mare.


              • #8
                Sue Sisco's Capital III would meet your requirements nicely. Not as well known or advertised but a very solid super ammy friendly choice. I have a 2yo filly out of my TB mare with similar characteristics to your mare and have been very pleased. He's in PA.


                • Original Poster

                  Thanks for all the suggestions! I will go check out all the boys listed.

                  Does anyone know if, other than Shine, there is a perfect hunter sire, in a smaller (15.1hh-16.1hh) package?

                  Note I used the word "sire" and not stallion as I am more interested in what they pass on than what they are themselves......

                  Thanks again!


                  • #10
                    If you want one that is "born broke" so to speak, look at Escapade. Most of his kids I've seen have been so easy...Alicia had pictures of some 4 YO Escapades showing at WEF last year with their amateurs on her Facebook page.

                    Also, may want to post in Sport Horse Breeding section....
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                    • #11
                      I like ironman (Nancy Maloney) I have 3 babies and they do seem easy to work with ,my 3yr old is under saddle now and seems to be going great he is a big boy and they all seem to have wonderful personalities. my two year old has just had a saddle on his back and even with it banging him he could care less he is very quiet and I thought he would be the sensitive one.


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pokeyman View Post
                        Does anyone know if, other than Shine, there is a perfect hunter sire, in a smaller (15.1hh-16.1hh) package?

                        Note I used the word "sire" and not stallion as I am more interested in what they pass on than what they are themselves......

                        Thanks again!
                        If you want a smaller package have a look at Jupiter. http://dornataintor.com/stallion.html.



                        • #13
                          Originally posted by NinaL aka Chrissy View Post
                          If you want a smaller package have a look at Jupiter. http://dornataintor.com/stallion.html.

                          I was also going to suggest Jupiter. HE is on the smaller size, and I believe that most of his babies stayed on the smaller size. Chef Jade on here had (still has?) a mare by Jupiter. You may want to shoot her a PM


                          • #14
                            While he is just starting his hunter career - you might want to look at JustBay's Edison. He seems like he might fit most of what you are looking for and I think she mentioned that he doesn't seem to add size, though you'd have to check with her to be certain.


                            • #15
                              Cunningham is also quite long in the back himself in person. Jupiter is the nicest small stallion in my opinion, but was scopey and sophisticated so he isn't what came to mind for me first after reading the original post.


                              • Original Poster

                                Originally posted by NinaL aka Chrissy View Post
                                If you want a smaller package have a look at Jupiter. http://dornataintor.com/stallion.html.

                                He sounds perfect but his website is less than informative. sheesh. I have yet to come across a stallion with so little marketing as him. But, am definitely intrigued enough to contact his farm. Thanks!

                                Also, googled him and found a few posts that he is a gentleman but could be a bit "hot" and needed flatwork (but no lunging) before shows.

                                Since I am breeding a TB mare, I do not need more hot! I want something that you have to wake up! hahahaha

                                I use to like hot but now that I am middle aged with kids, I want to breed for the- couch potato horse- not the energizer bunny! Been there, done that, no thanks!

                                Any other small warmblood hunter sires? Should I consider large ponies? Mare is 15.2hh and I want to stay in that range but keep her bone, substance, and width (big barrel and big hip).


                                • #17
                                  Nevada would definitely meet your requirements with the exception of the big body. He is not a heavy bodied stallion. He also has a pretty limited show record as he has been a busy breeding stallion, but he has placed every time he has been shown. Many of his youngsters are being shown by amateurs and junior riders.


                                  • #18
                                    If you want more information on Jupiter you might try sending a PM to lphoeb - she posts on this board sometimes and owned, rode and showed Jupiter for several years. (She is the one showing him in the video). I am sure she would be happy to tell you all about him


                                    • #19
                                      I booked and bred a mare to Jupiter this season, and while the website is lacking, Mavis was very nice to deal with. I believe there is a bit more info on him on her Facebook page for him.
                                      His fresh and frozen semen is of good quality.
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                                      • #20
                                        There's always Just the Best =) My personal fav, I'm not sure on size tho.