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To The DIYers - How Much To Meet Trainer at Shows?

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  • #21
    Nickelodian-I'm curious to hear your experience with regard to using so many various trainers. My 2 kids ride and their trainer only does the bigger "AA" shows. We are still more comfortable showing at the local level and I have had one other trainer school them at this show. I'm thinking of taking them to some other schooling shows and would have to find them a different trainers once again.
    How are you treated by the trainer's regular customers at shows. If you have used 2 separate trainers at various shows and the next show they are both attending-how do you choose which one to use & what do you say to the other?

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    • #22
      In KY I trained with a BNT on a trailer in basis. At shows I did all my own work and was charged $100/day for being schooled on the days I rode.

      On the days he rode my horse the the Pre Greens he charged me XXX/round.

      I believe that both charges were 25% more than he charged his full training people.
      "He lives in a cocoon of solipsism"

      Charles Krauthammer speaking about Trump

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Nickelodian View Post
        I've been a "haul in" for no less than 6 trainers over the last two years. I pick a show, then figure out who I'm going to ride with. My normal home trainer can't feasibly travel as much as I want to, as the rest of her clients show locally. I've paid anywhere from 25-55 per day.

        I always check beforehand that I will not have to

        a) split the tack/grooming/junk stalls
        b) pay for a groom
        c) pay any sort of day care fee (beyond training)
        d) pay for any sort of set up or breakdown fee

        If I have to I will stable elsewhere on the grounds just to avoid any confusion with the splits.

        In order for me to show, this is the way I have to do it. I carry my tack out to my trailer each night, and tack up in my stall. I'm very careful not to use any of the tack stalls as...well I'm not paying for them.

        In general as a haul in, I have not been a split on the trainer's hotel. But that varies by trainer, and I'm flexible as long as I understand my commitment ahead of time.

        Good for you! It's great to see someone being pro-active about getting the help they need even if that means being a bit independent.

        Great post, too. You explain what kinds of fees to ask about. Everyone can do something a little different and have reasons why. It's better to ask than to assume and then be disappointed.

        Another good point: If you don't want day care and other splits for groom stalls, you must be *scrupulous* about not using those stalls or the grooms. No on-the-fly "just this once, just for a minute" deviations from that. It's not fair (especially to the hardworking grooms who can't easily say No), and to the trainer or other clients who did pay for those things. Be cool, be helpful and unobtrusive and you will feel welcome in that barn even if you are the visiting nomad.
        The armchair saddler
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        • #24
          like everyone else, I pay the day rate, usually $60. If it is an away show, I'd expect to part of hotel, but it's not always billed. I also frequently show up with cash on hand - I'm not but a speck on the trainer's budget, but since they have a lot of financial outlay at a show but may not get paid until the next billing cycle, I figure some cash on hand is appreciated.

          I also don't stable with the trainer I ride with. I figure its just easier for you - if you look like you are part of the set up, other clients wonder what the deal is and grooms may be uncertain if they need to do anything with your horse, so to me it just seems simpler for the trainer to be someplace else. I'll check in a few divisions before my division to see if the trainer has any expected ring conflicts and figure out whether I need to get myself in the early/middle/end and let her know, then I just text her on my way up to the ring.
          Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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          • #25
            N. CA

            I keep my horses at home and meet my BNT at the horse shows. (Before I got my farm, I kept my horses at his barn.) I pay $60 a day for his help with my warm ups before classes and, if he has time and doesn't have a ring conflict with one of his full-time clients' horses, he'll watch my round and give me suggestions afterward. If I have a lesson on a non-showing day, that's another $80 and additional if he rides one of my horses. I know that I am paying only a small fraction of what his full-time clients are, so I do everything I can to respect his time and not get in the way of his working with his full-time clients. If there is a ring conflict, I know I don't take priority. I am just really thankful to have his exceptionally high quality help whenever it works in his schedule.

            Like the other posters here, I wouldn't think about using any of his gear or supplies and certainly wouldn't ask for help from any of the farm's grooms. I am also careful to arrange for my horses' stalls to be in a separate location at the shows and don't do any R&R in his barn's tent. I try too, as my time allows, to help him at the in gates or schooling areas, holding horses, etc. It's helpful to him and I learn a lot

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            • #26
              AllOverTheFarm - I kind of ride with different trainers in a hierarchy.

              1. My home trainer - If she's available
              2. The closest trainer to my stable (have had a few haul in lessons with her, and have known her most of my life)
              3. Another trainer also in my area, but much further away
              4. Another trainer in another city
              5. An out of state trainer.

              So far I haven't run into much jealousy or hard feelings. Perhaps b/c I am such a nobody they don't really care, or perhaps its b/c my budget is so small they also don't really care. Either way, I do what I feel is best for my horse, me, and my pocket book.

              I've run into no problems with the trainer's other clients. I just try to stay out of the way, and also be friendly. If for some reason I have to use a groom's help (unload my trunk, hold my horse to get on, etc), I will tip that groom directly. Mostly I just try to avoid it all together. Sometimes its really just easier to stable somewhere not near the "group" as my area might not be gear free (no tack stall to keep all my junk) and might not meet the trainer's standards.
              My adventures as a working rider

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