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    Originally posted by LexInVA View Post
    Here's the text of the post from the GM Selfie, posted on September 6th. "Today, I learned how to teach my horse a flying change in a way that never occurred to me and that's because I decided that the wealth of knowledge this man has is more important than his personal life and his personal issues. I still have a lot to learn from Mister unrelenting."

    The second photo, also posted on September 6th, depicting the empty clinic riding ring had the first comment of "You're at persimmon tree!!!!! I'm jealous. Enjoy!!!!".
    WOW. Who on earth would think teaching a flying change is more important than victims of abuse. I sincerely hope this sick person does not work with children.

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      Originally posted by LexInVA View Post
      Here's the text of the post from the GM Selfie, posted on September 6th. "Today, I learned how to teach my horse a flying change in a way that never occurred to me and that's because I decided that the wealth of knowledge this man has is more important than his personal life and his personal issues. I still have a lot to learn from Mister unrelenting."

      The second photo, also posted on September 6th, depicting the empty clinic riding ring had the first comment of "You're at persimmon tree!!!!! I'm jealous. Enjoy!!!!".
      so that person is actual garbage.
      Let me apologize in advance.

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        Originally posted by Jealoushe View Post

        WOW. Who on earth would think teaching a flying change is more important than victims of abuse. I sincerely hope this sick person does not work with children.
        If you search Facebook with the text of the caption, then select "Posts", it's abundantly clear who on earth holds that disgusting belief.

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          Originally posted by ake987 View Post

          If you search Facebook with the text of the caption, then select "Posts", it's abundantly clear who on earth holds that disgusting belief.
          Well that explains how the few orange people in my life know what I've posted. Scary. I looked and she actually seems like good person. I rode with him for many years. Would not do it now.......but....Separate the art from the artist?? Do y'all refuse to listen to Michael Jackson?
          "You can't really debate with someone who has a prescient invisible friend"
          carolprudm

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            Originally posted by mroades View Post

            Well that explains how the few orange people in my life know what I've posted. Scary. I looked and she actually seems like good person. I rode with him for many years. Would not do it now.......but....Separate the art from the artist?? Do y'all refuse to listen to Michael Jackson?
            Would you pay michael jackson to give your thirteen year old son voice lessons????

            do you believe that safe sport sanctions should not be enforced if the person sexually assaulting minors is good enough??
            Let me apologize in advance.

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              Originally posted by mroades View Post

              Well that explains how the few orange people in my life know what I've posted. Scary. I looked and she actually seems like good person. I rode with him for many years. Would not do it now.......but....Separate the art from the artist?? Do y'all refuse to listen to Michael Jackson?
              Several radio stations will no longer play Michael Jackson songs (not sure about Jackson 5)

              Odd FB post - a lifetime ban for sexual abuse is "personal life" and "personal problems" doesn't apparently matter as long as they learned how to do a flying change in a way they never did before. Apparently she also feels that his victims consented... like a 14 year old can legally consent to - what was he in his 30s-40's then?

              Agree with Ladyj79's post above.
              Last edited by gottagrey; Sep. 15, 2020, 10:55 PM.

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                No, and I wouldn't ride with George now either. I stated early I most definitely do not stand with George. Just saying I did see the post and the girl seems not much a monster. To me that's similar to piling on the victims. Come at me for that it you like.
                "You can't really debate with someone who has a prescient invisible friend"
                carolprudm

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                  FWIW I think offering the clinic does indeed violate the aiding and abetting and it should not have happened
                  "You can't really debate with someone who has a prescient invisible friend"
                  carolprudm

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                    Nvm

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                      Originally posted by ladyj79 View Post
                      .............
                      without the ability to yell at lots of middle aged women, george really doesnt have a lot of money earning potential.
                      From out here in the boonies, knowing nothing insider-y, it would seem that GM, a man in his 80's who seems to have worked all of his life, does not have a retirement income. Or not enough to support his preferred way of life, anyway.

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                        Originally posted by OverandOnward View Post

                        From out here in the boonies, knowing nothing insider-y, it would seem that GM, a man in his 80's who seems to have worked all of his life, does not have a retirement income. Or not enough to support his preferred way of life, anyway.
                        Which is why Diane Carney or Katie Prudent or Robert Dover should invite George to live with them in his retirement, ie now.

                        He can't teach, or associate with their students, but he can drive a golf cart around palm beach or southern pines or whatever wasteland DC calls home, and maybe take up a new solo hobby. Screaming at strangers about their outfits on the street from his golf cart could be just the thing to occupy his time.
                        Let me apologize in advance.

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                          Originally posted by mroades View Post

                          Well that explains how the few orange people in my life know what I've posted. Scary. I looked and she actually seems like good person. I rode with him for many years. Would not do it now.......but....Separate the art from the artist?? Do y'all refuse to listen to Michael Jackson?
                          I think there is a big difference between reading books (in GHM’s case) and listening to music (Micheal Jackson) and spending money for them to teach you. I don’t think people should burn GHM’s books, I don’t think people should disregard them for the information. I DO think people should stop riding with him and bragging about it. My god that post boiled down to “I’m an idiot and so is my trainer. We cannot teach a lead change. This is way more important than him being a sexual predator.”


                          ETA: I’m pretty sure you could teach me how to put a lead change on my horse. I also pretty sure that rider was trying way more than in a regular lesson. It’s not that hard.

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                            Imagine being one of his victims and being describe as one of his "personal problems." Sorry, this person is a bit more of a monster than might appear on the face of it if this is the kind of reasoning she is capable of and comfortable with.

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                              Originally posted by OverandOnward View Post

                              From out here in the boonies, knowing nothing insider-y, it would seem that GM, a man in his 80's who seems to have worked all of his life, does not have a retirement income. Or not enough to support his preferred way of life, anyway.
                              I honestly think that it's rather odd, but I am starting to believe that he never really made much money to begin with and that the tales of his greatness and that of Hunterdon were highly over-exaggerated by GM himself and his sycophants, to maintain and advance his social position in the elite section of the Equestrian world.
                              Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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                                Originally posted by mroades View Post
                                No, and I wouldn't ride with George now either. I stated early I most definitely do not stand with George. Just saying I did see the post and the girl seems not much a monster. To me that's similar to piling on the victims. Come at me for that it you like.
                                Yes, but assuming that post was not coerced, I think you see a pretty bad person there. To wit: she expressly weighed Morris's ban vs. the value of his instruction to her, coming down on the side of his value to her being more important than the ban. She certainly could have praised the flying lead change and left it at that.

                                I actually think it is important for people who post stuff like this to bask in the consequences of their decisions. I would hope that most reader find her preferred trade-off unacceptable. And they should say so. After all, the way we got here was a whole bunch of people probably feeling privately that minors shouldn't be molested or raped.... and then saying and doing nothing about that.
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                                  Originally posted by LexInVA
                                  Let's address the Elephant in the thread.

                                  REST OF QUOTE REMOVED.
                                  I’m starting to get very uncomfortable with what is being shared about this person. She may by a hypocrite but nobody deserves to be doxxed and the more you share about her and how to find her social media pages, the more likely that seems.
                                  Last edited by vxf111; Sep. 16, 2020, 10:34 AM.
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                                    Originally posted by vxf111 View Post

                                    I’m starting to get very uncomfortable with what is being shared about this person. She may by a hypocrite but nobody deserves to be doxxed and the more you share about her and how to find her social media pages, the more likely that seems.
                                    I never posted her name. I even obscured the name of a comment maker on her FB post, to protect her from being harassed. Her posts about the clinic and GM are out there for anyone to see and I assure you that it took no effort whatsoever on my part to find what she put up as her stuff was the first thing that showed up when I was looking into PTF and heard there were photos going around.
                                    Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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                                      Originally posted by mroades View Post
                                      No, and I wouldn't ride with George now either. I stated early I most definitely do not stand with George. Just saying I did see the post and the girl seems not much a monster. To me that's similar to piling on the victims. Come at me for that it you like.
                                      She's definitely not a monster, from what I saw, and she's as clean as anyone could be, as far as any legal matters go, so I see no reason for people to pile on her, beyond saying she's very much wrong-minded about GM. Like I said, you have to take into account the context of her posts and how she justifies her position in her responses to those who questioned her support of him, to understand why she feels that way, even though it's unconscionable.
                                      Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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                                        Originally posted by LexInVA View Post

                                        I never posted her name. I even obscured the name of a comment maker on her FB post, to protect her from being harassed. Her posts about the clinic and GM are out there for anyone to see and I assure you that it took no effort whatsoever on my part to find what she put up as her stuff was the first thing that showed up when I was looking into PTF and heard there were photos going around.
                                        I also think your recent post regarding HER personal experience crossed a line and I’m requesting you edit it out.

                                        People can do whatever they want about their Facebook privacy settings but that doesn’t mean the rest of us are blameless for taking that information out of the context for which it was intended and sharing personal information intended for one audience next to personally identifying information with a shrug of “it’s public.”
                                        "I'm not always sarcastic. Sometimes I'm asleep." - Harry Dresden

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                                          Originally posted by Renn/aissance View Post

                                          I also think your recent post regarding HER personal experience crossed a line and I’m requesting you edit it out.

                                          People can do whatever they want about their Facebook privacy settings but that doesn’t mean the rest of us are blameless for taking that information out of the context for which it was intended and sharing personal information intended for one audience next to personally identifying information with a shrug of “it’s public.”
                                          I was able to delete it, but it won't go away unless the quotes are deleted.
                                          Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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