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What should I do with a natural mane for a schooling show?

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    What should I do with a natural mane for a schooling show?

    My local area is doing a relaxed hunter/jumper schooling show. Attire is casual, so long as you are neatly presented, but I'm wondering what to do for my horse's mane? For our area, I know that no one will care what I do with his mane including the people putting it on (which is one of the trainers I take lessons from), but I still like to be turned out neat for the event.

    Normally, I do a running braid for my horse when we do Hunter Under Saddle and Hunt Seat Eq but I honestly don't know if my running braid would stay neat all day, or for actual jumping. I've done both local shows and AQHA shows with my horse, so it's only been like a couple of events at a time, and braiding is the last thing I do before tacking up and getting one, to keep it as nice as possible. Also, I had it happen one time, where the end of the braid (near the saddle) actually broke off some hairs near the base, so I always try to keep it looser there if I can, to avoid that breakage.

    So curious what other braiding options I can consider? My horse has a natural mane, and I intend to keep it that way. First and foremost, he is a barrel racing horse. Secondly, he's a ranch horse (and must be decent, as we qualified for the AQHA world show last year in ranch riding, our first year showing AQHA). But we like to dabble in lots of things, including English. So I won't be cutting his natural mane!

    I did see a video where they did the "jumper braid buttons" (I'm probably totally calling them the wrong name) but doing it with a natural mane, which looked interesting.

    Picture of what I normally do for a running braid.

    Picture of what he naturally looks like.

    They are going to be doing several different divisions for different skill levels, with 4 classes in each: working hunter, equitation over fences, hunt seat equitation, and equitation on the flat. Along with some fun events at the very end. So should be a good time.
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    #2
    I use the running plait, it only takes a few minutes. I take it out after and do it again if riding again.
    It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.

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      #3
      I either do the braids you mentioned on a long mane, or I do a french braid. Not a running plait. I find that the extra strand in the french braid keeps the braid in, then I sew it in down the length of the mane. Stays in all day.
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        #4
        Definitely go for the running braid. If you have pulling issues at the withers, you don't have to braid quite so far down. You can just make a little pony tail or bun out of those shorter hairs at the bottom, or tuck the ends under your saddle pad. When I show in a running braid (dressage), I tend to take it out and put it back in if the horse needs to look presentable multiple times during the day.

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          #5
          Yep, do your running braid and be ready, at any time, to redo it when needed. Keep some spray water, a comb and elastics close.

          Have fun and stay safe.
          ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

          Originally posted by LauraKY
          I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.

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            #6
            We are not allowed to braid at shows due to Covid concerns but I don't understand why some people don't at least pull the mane and spritz some quickbraid on it - seen some real two-maned bush necks at A shows

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              #7
              Try a "running button braid." Olivia did a nice tutorial on her blog: https://diyhorseownership.com/diy-ho...on-long-manes/
              http://trainingcupid.blogspot.com/

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                #8
                I don’t have advice, but just wanted to say that the running braid in your picture looks really nice!

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                  Originally posted by enjoytheride View Post
                  I either do the braids you mentioned on a long mane, or I do a french braid. Not a running plait. I find that the extra strand in the french braid keeps the braid in, then I sew it in down the length of the mane. Stays in all day.
                  Hmm, any videos or pictures you can direct me to that shows how the french braid is different? Not sure I have seen that.


                  Originally posted by Training Cupid View Post
                  Try a "running button braid." Olivia did a nice tutorial on her blog: https://diyhorseownership.com/diy-ho...on-long-manes/
                  Yes! This is what I was referring to. I think I saw a different video of someone else doing it, but same thing. I should practice and see if I can do it.

                  Quic Braid though ... I've never heard of this, nor do I think I have seen it on any store shelves in my area. What exactly is it, or is in it?

                  I usually spray the mane down with diluted Healthy Hair conditioner, before I braid it. I don't know that it adds any extra "stick" but it helps make it neater. At the AQHA shows, I quite literally sprayed it with hair spray when I was done, to help keep it nicer for our classes. Don't know if that's the right thing to do, but it seemed to help.


                  Originally posted by mollymoon View Post
                  I don’t have advice, but just wanted to say that the running braid in your picture looks really nice!
                  Thank you!

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                    Originally posted by Training Cupid View Post
                    Try a "running button braid." Olivia did a nice tutorial on her blog: https://diyhorseownership.com/diy-ho...on-long-manes/

                    This would be my suggestion, my friend does her natural mane QH with this for shows, and she has got pretty darn quick at it, and it stays in nicely.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Atlas Shrugged View Post
                      We are not allowed to braid at shows due to Covid concerns but I don't understand why some people don't at least pull the mane and spritz some quickbraid on it - seen some real two-maned bush necks at A shows
                      ?

                      There is no way braiding your own horse’s mane is not allowed... C’mon.

                      Braiders might have been forbidden - not braiding in itself.

                      Braiding is always optional, so the shows must have just said to really let it go during Covid.
                      ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

                      Originally posted by LauraKY
                      I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.

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                        Originally posted by beau159 View Post
                        Quic Braid though ... I've never heard of this, nor do I think I have seen it on any store shelves in my area. What exactly is it, or is in it?

                        I usually spray the mane down with diluted Healthy Hair conditioner, before I braid it. I don't know that it adds any extra "stick" but it helps make it neater. At the AQHA shows, I quite literally sprayed it with hair spray when I was done, to help keep it nicer for our classes. Don't know if that's the right thing to do, but it seemed to help.
                        Quic braid is more like liquid spray net.

                        I would recommend you not to put conditioner in your horse’s mane prior to braiding it.
                        Wet it, yes, but no detangling/conditioner! It will smooth it and make the mane all slicky!

                        You can use hair gel, spraynet, mousse, whatever that stick. Beware of products that will leave a white residue. Wash well after.
                        ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

                        Originally posted by LauraKY
                        I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.

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                          Originally posted by alibi_18 View Post

                          ?

                          There is no way braiding your own horse’s mane is not allowed... C’mon.

                          Braiders might have been forbidden - not braiding in itself.

                          Braiding is always optional, so the shows must have just said to really let it go during Covid.
                          Tryon's August series protocol email specifically says "No braiding will be permitted for the Tryon August series." I suspect they weren't contemplating anyone braiding for themselves, but I also think they want to remove it from consideration. If no one is braided, everyone feels more comfortable with not doing it.

                          beau159 I second mollymoon 's comment -- the picture with the running braid is pretty and looks very tidy!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Atlas Shrugged View Post
                            We are not allowed to braid at shows due to Covid concerns but I don't understand why some people don't at least pull the mane and spritz some quickbraid on it - seen some real two-maned bush necks at A shows
                            Some manes just will not train to be on the "correct" side. Even with lots of trying. Even with lots of stuff to try to keep it there. So those people with 'two-maned bush necks' might be dealing with a mane that braids up fine but is what it is when not braided.

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                              #15
                              I do a running braid on my Driving mini's Trolldoll mane using Dollar Tree hair gel to keep it in place.
                              Stays all day & if it gets loose, I can redo quickly.



                              Mane reaches well past his shoulder at the longest point.
                              I need to keep the last bit at his withers from rubbing beneath the shoulder strap for the breastcollar, so I do a 3-plait braid on that piece and tuck it out if the way.
                              Same for his bushy forelock, gets braided & tucked under the browband OR I pull & thin it to a civilized shape ; }

                              P.S.
                              Any Drivers reading, please look past the too high & tight breeching - fixed right after that class X (
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by alibi_18 View Post

                                ?

                                There is no way braiding your own horse’s mane is not allowed... C’mon.

                                Braiders might have been forbidden - not braiding in itself.

                                Braiding is always optional, so the shows must have just said to really let it go during Covid.
                                The shows near me have banned all braiding, not just braiders. I'm not far from you, either. One prizelist states: "Braiding will not be allowed. Judge will penalize any horse who is braided."

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by alibi_18 View Post

                                  ?

                                  There is no way braiding your own horse’s mane is not allowed... C’mon.

                                  Braiders might have been forbidden - not braiding in itself.

                                  Braiding is always optional, so the shows must have just said to really let it go during Covid.
                                  I get the need for the ban. The only way to be sure a braider wasn't used is to disallow braiding. They can't know for sure who did it once it's in the ring.

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TBKite View Post
                                    I get the need for the ban. The only way to be sure a braider wasn't used is to disallow braiding. They can't know for sure who did it once it's in the ring.
                                    I hadn’t thought of that, but it does make sense and I agree with that new rule.


                                    ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

                                    Originally posted by LauraKY
                                    I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.

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                                      Hello folks! Well the schooling show as this past weekend so I thought I would update you all that I walked away with TWO grand champion titles!! One for each of my horses! I'm just astonished. I'm so blessed to have nice horses, so I have to gush on them.

                                      I tried attaching pictures (hopefully they work) of what I ended up doing with my grey's mane ... and then my very impromptu braid job on my red horse (more on that later....). The "buttons" weren't perfectly even on the grey as his mane is much thicker and longer toward the top -- Honestly, I'm not sure how to get them perfectly even and symmetrical because of that, but I thought it looked okay for the schooling show. And it stayed in nice and tight for all the classes.

                                      They had a wonderful turnout for the event so I am hopeful they will do more of these schooling shows in the coming years. Division A (which I didn't enter in) they called "pile of poles" because it was just the poles on the ground for the jumps. They also allowed western tack for that division to encourage anyone to come try it. I didn't count but they had to have at least 20 people in the classes for that. It took over 2 hours to get through that division alone. There were 6 divisions offered. And all divisions had Working Hunter, Equitation over Fences, Hunter Under Saddle, and Equitation on the Flat.

                                      My grey (Shotgun) won the Grand Champion in Division B which was cross rails. There was around 17 people for each class so great turnout! We took 2nd place in Working Hunter, and then DQ'ed due my error for Equitation over fences (I took the first fence the wrong way....dumb dumb!!) [my VIDEO here], and then took 1st place in HUS, and then 2nd place in Equitation on the Flat. So even with the DQ in the one class, he still got us enough points to walk away with the Grand Champion. I was simply hoping to have a successful day doing our courses and absolutely never even considered we would have a shot at the overall. Never! I guess there are always surprises! I was just floored.

                                      So then I also did the next division with him which was Division C 18 inches. There were two jumps they set up with a solid brown lattice-type structure. They allowed a few minutes for practice before each division, and he was pretty "looky" at them but I got him over them a couple times. He unfortunately had one refusal for the Working Hunter class [my VIDEO here ] so we didn't place there, but he did fantastic for me in the following Equitation over Fences, and took them all great. We didn't place in that but I know my riding was not on par as I was really having to hustle my poor boy, who was getting tired. Not used to jumping so much! But he tried his little heart out for me and I can't ask for more than that. And then still pulled ribbons in the HUS and EOF after that.

                                      So.... I was also entered in the Division D 2 feet. But my horse was now tired. And he had done so great, so he was finished. But I had another fresh horse tied to the trailer .... who I was not prepared to ride that day .... who has gone over a jump here and there but has never done a jumping course before..... So as fast as I could, I threw some braids into his hair, threw my saddle on him, and got into the practice quick before they started, just to test it out. I showed him a couple jumps, he sniffed a bit, but went over great and figured out what we were doing. And then he proceeded to snag the Grand Champion title in the Division D!!! Took 4th in Working Hunter, 2nd in Equitation over Fences, 3rd in Hunter under saddle, and 2nd in Equitation on the Flat. Out of a field of about 10 people. Wow, wow, wow! And let me say, he had way too much fun jumping. Sadly, no video of him to share but the photographer got some amazing shots. A lot of the pictures, he's jumping higher than he needs to. What an over achiever!

                                      If it's against the rules to share the photographer's site and photos, please delete if not allowed, but I am going to have a heck of a time deciding which pictures to order. She got so many good ones! Mine start on this page and then keep going to the next one to see them all.

                                      If anyone wants to comment on my videos, have at it! We've really done very limited English riding this year, and very limited jumping. I know I was sometimes ahead or behind, and not perfect always, but just tried my best to not get in their way and let them work. I see I'm guilty of "chicken elbows" on my grey sometimes. He sometimes likes to travel/jump with his head low so I think that's what gets me sometimes. My Red was easier because he naturally carries his head a little higher so it was easier going over the jumps.

                                      But anyway, I'll stop rambling and bragging. I'm just so danged proud of my horses. This made my summer!!!!!!
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                                        #20
                                        At least one show had a braider test COVID-positive--it may have been Tryon, which is possibly why it's now expressly prohibited there. I know most prizelists I've seen this year have explicitly said it was optional. I've been out to a few shows for hunter breeding this year, at the first show I was the only one not braided. I did my own braids for the last two, and didn't bother with the tail. I saw more horses braided than not. I get wanting to support the braiders, but it seems so unnecessary at this time.

                                        OP, if you don't have Quikbraid, you can just use something like gel or hairspray. It just helps keep the mane stickier and easier to braid. I would never want to braid something that's been sprayed with conditioner
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