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  • I do wish they would update.

    I find it frustrating that they begged the facebook world to get involved (the trainer specifically asked everyone to share), but now they are silent with no updates.

    I am still jingling.

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    • My sense: Family has requested OP and trainer stop posting. (I would have as soon as I became aware).

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      • Originally posted by paintedpony View Post
        My sense: Family has requested OP and trainer stop posting. (I would have as soon as I became aware).
        But the mom was regularly chiming in on FB??? I wonder if they are finally facing up to some hard decisions, and will resurface with an outcome. It is all very sad for the kid and the horse.

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        • Originally posted by paintedpony View Post
          My sense: Family has requested OP and trainer stop posting. (I would have as soon as I became aware).
          The mother was posting pretty liberally initially as well, trying to get attention and support from celebrities and the news media.

          My suspicion? The father, who was the person who actually served for 30 years in the military (he retired last summer) had no idea they were posting this sort of stuff on social media. I’m actually surprised the trainer’s posts as well as the mother’s haven’t been taken down off Facebook already. People make mistakes and what is considered appropriate and inappropriate within military circles and military families might not be readily apparent to the general public. But the go fund me account and trainer’s posts are something everyone I know who has served in uniform would frown on. In a major way. And my husband would lose it, and be MORTIFIED and INCREDIBLY ANGRY if his service record was posted about and leveraged in this manner in connection with fundraising attempts related to a situation like this (I say this as the spouse of a retired service member).

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          • Or maybe they went private because the keyboard quarterbacks have been so nasty towards them.....

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            • Originally posted by Virginia Horse Mom View Post

              My suspicion? The father, who was the person who actually served for 30 years in the military (he retired last summer) had no idea they were posting this sort of stuff on social media. I’m actually surprised the trainer’s posts as well as the mother’s haven’t been taken down off Facebook already. People make mistakes and what is considered appropriate and inappropriate within military circles and military families might not be readily apparent to the general public. But the go fund me account and trainer’s posts are something everyone I know who has served in uniform would frown on. In a major way. And my husband would lose it, and be MORTIFIED and INCREDIBLY ANGRY if his service record was posted about and leveraged in this manner in connection with fundraising attempts related to a situation like this (I say this as the spouse of a retired service member).
              I have never met a service member who would be okay with this behavior. Most people who use it as leverage are friends, family and spouses.

              When I mentioned it earlier people could not wrap their heads around why it is NOT okay to bring up military service and stated that’s it’s somehow relevant and okay to mention.

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              • Originally posted by spotnnotfarm View Post
                Or maybe they went private because the keyboard quarterbacks have been so nasty towards them.....
                Who has been nasty?

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                • Originally posted by trubandloki View Post
                  I do wish they would update.

                  I find it frustrating that they begged the facebook world to get involved (the trainer specifically asked everyone to share), but now they are silent with no updates.

                  I am still jingling.
                  Approx. a year ago when our colt was tied up in Miami quarantine for over a month, for the same reason, we reached out to the public for support the same way the trainer/family did- urgent posts on FB, a go fund me, called the local media, even started a thread on here...until Chapman Hopkins advised us it was in not in our best interest to do so... so everything was promptly removed and we went “social media silent” during negotiations, conferences and additional testing. When our horse finally tested negative on the CFt and got to come home, of course our facebooks were flooded with the expected thankful and relieved posts.. but not until we knew the ordeal was over and the media posts weren’t negatively affecting our cause.
                  Could be something similar here.

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                  • Originally posted by AppaloosaDressage View Post

                    Approx. a year ago when our colt was tied up for a Glanders false positive CFT in Miami for over a month, we did the same- frantic posts on FB, a go fund me, called the local media, etc...until Chapman Hopkins advised us it was in not in our best interest to do so... so everything was promptly removed and we went “social media silent” until he finally tested negative on the CFt and then our facebooks filled up with the expected relieved and ecstatic posts.
                    Could be the same thing here
                    I hope so!

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                    • Originally posted by Denali6298 View Post

                      Who has been nasty?
                      "Nasty" in this context is calling the trainer's FB output unprofessional (it is), and not getting onboard with vilifying USDA and Jet Pets. So I suppose most of this (quite educational and interesting) thread is "nasty".
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                      • Originally posted by AppaloosaDressage View Post

                        Approx. a year ago when our colt was tied up in Miami quarantine for over a month, for the same reason, we reached out to the public for support the same way the trainer/family did- urgent posts on FB, a go fund me, called the local media, even started a thread on here...until Chapman Hopkins advised us it was in not in our best interest to do so... so everything was promptly removed and we went “social media silent” during negotiations, conferences and additional testing. When our horse finally tested negative on the CFt and got to come home, of course our facebooks were flooded with the expected thankful and relieved posts.. but not until we knew the ordeal was over and the media posts weren’t negatively affecting our cause.
                        Could be something similar here.
                        I’m so glad you were able to get your horse. It must have been a relief.

                        ETA: Social media (especially Facebook) is a real double-edged sword.
                        Last edited by FlaxenChestnut; Jan. 22, 2020, 01:17 PM. Reason: ETA

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                        • Argh at no update but I understand why.

                          As the horse tested negative before the flight. I would fight the insurance that there was no pre-existing condition.
                          It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.

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                          • I'm rather embarrassed to say this, but I did finally see the trainer's public post on Facebook pop up in my feed. There was an update by the family as a comment, saying that they were able to negotiate a return to the original per diem rate and they're going to compare the costs between the two main options they have, once they get final quotes on both and discuss things as a family. It sounds like it's slowly coming to an end. They didn't say anything about the horse's condition, and the impression I got is that they are going to be much more muted on social media after this. I can understand why. They didn't say if the horse has been re-tested or what his current medical condition is. Since they only updated after a number of people were inquiring, I don't know if they will post much more.

                            Oh well, this has been, I must confess, a very educational drama, although a very, very sad one.
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                            • Most recent update from fb post:
                              UPDATE!!!
                              As of today, 1/22, we have paid $28,420.94, not including his original import. We have an outstanding invoice of $3,380.94. We have been told to expect an invoice tmrw around the $10,000 mark.....will let you know tmrw what it is. We finally got numbers on euthanizing and shipping back to Belgium. To euthanize him it will cost approximately $6500. To send him back to Belgium, that will cost approximately $15,600 but does not include his two day Quarentine hold on Belgium, and the ground transport to a place we don’t know yet! The other bad news is, if we get the funds together to send him back, that won’t be until Jan 30, so most likely another $3500 or so to keep him at LAX for the next week! We purchased this horse for $36,000 and that included his original transport to the U.S. if we send him back, we will have spent over $58,000 to save his life........all on credit cards! Do you think we have any chance of raising $20,000 by next week? I am at a total loss......and Gabby has no horse and Hireno (waffles) has no owner.......there has to be a better way....

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                              • So, they're fundraising?
                                http://weanieeventer.blogspot.com/

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                                • That latest update...wow. The constellation of personalities, laws, finances, and biology has really become a perfect storm of crazy.

                                  I guess they've stopped testing the horse, since even if it's a false positive, it keeps triggering a reading?
                                  Last edited by Impractical Horsewoman; Jan. 23, 2020, 09:38 AM.
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                                  • Because the topic of insurance has come up repeatedly, as well as whether or not the horse will be euthanized upon arrival in Europe...

                                    Somebody replied to that comment from the trainer that was just quoted by Appaloosadressage and asked if the seller was going to take the horse back, and whether or not the horse was insured... the trainer then replied with the following...

                                    “the insurance company says this is a pre existing condition since the first blood test that showed suspect was upon arrival to the US. So they have denied everything. The seller will not give us anything back. I will have to find a place to send him to, pay board and training, and hope they can sell him. Mind you he has been standing in a stall for two months....so a little time and conditioning will be necessary for the poor guy!“
                                    Last edited by Virginia Horse Mom; Jan. 23, 2020, 09:16 AM. Reason: Misattributed the original quote... it was from the trainer

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                                    • Just saw a GoFundMe for this horse.

                                      And quarantine isn't even spelled correctly.

                                      At least check your spelling if you are going to ask the public for $$$$$

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                                      • The mother's post (referenced above) is very well written. Sad but not all the screaming drama that the trainer is doing. She states that they should have done things differently and that they did not know what they were doing, etc.

                                        This whole situation is sad. The poor young lady.

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                                        • Impractical Horsewoman I saw the family update you mentioned, it's a few comments ahead of the trainer's update.

                                          I was confused when they said "Once we were notified about this horrific disease we should of shipped him right back(but we didn’t because we were not aware or I wasn’t smart enough to think of that)" Maybe I haven't been following this thread closely enough but did the trainer not say on her facebook that she was advised to return him the day the first positive showed up? Originally by the Jetpets owner and then from lawyers.

                                          After reading the latest update, if euthanasia is only $6500 that seems like by far the best financial option.

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