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    What does everyone do?

    Perhaps this doesn't belong here or in an off topic forum, but I just wanted to ask out of curiosity: what does everyone do to afford their prized possessions (being horses) or stay afloat on the rated H/J circuit?

    Whether that's going to school for years on end to acquire a well-paying gig, enrolling in something part-time to pay the bills or perhaps you're one of the lucky ones who doesn't have to worry! I, myself, took a long hiatus from horses to go to school, obtained my professional engineering license and am lucky enough to say I found my way back into the horsey world with my own warmblood filly purchased this year. What's your story?

    There have been a few discussions of this in the not so distant past. Maybe do a search of the Off Course forum as well as this one to see if you can find them.

    Also look in Off Topic and Off Course because there is a person who has started a couple of discussions asking for advice in finding a career that would give her enough money and free time to have horses. Lots of people replied by telling about their jobs.
    "Facts are meaningless. You can use facts to prove anything
    that's even remotely true."

    Homer Simpson


      I have a 20 stall boarding barn and I'm a Rodan + Fields skincare consultant. It's a perfect mix because I can work from the barn in my phone between cleaning stalls and dragging the ring and digging ditches. It's also a lot easier. 😂 Rodan + Fields makes me far more than the barn ever did 😂


        Well, I don't show, but horses are still expensive. I work as a land planner at a regional and urban land planning office. While it wouldn't make me enough to actually show competitively on the A circuit, between my salary (and my husbands...he is a general manager for a plastics company that makes parts for boats), we live comfortably enough and can afford the occasional show. Tbh I don't show anymore mostly due to lack of time, 7 kids sort of eats that sort of thing up. I am happy to get to a few shows a year.


          I don't show because I'm a poor masters student and work as a (poorly paid) intern, but I also keep my horses in a super cheap area and don't spend a lot of money on myself.
          Lots of things you could do with a stopwatch...


            what I've taken away from the multiple threads on the subject that have cropped up over the years is be a nurse.

            I'm a teacher and that was ok too.

            But from my nurse and doc friends and my teacher self and friends I can say everything kind of crumbles a bit when or if you have kids they're expensive and exhausting and take up a lot of time that previously went to horses.

            I currently have a 3 year old child and it's 15 degrees outside, so when I have to take him to the barn, which is really most of the time in the middle of winter and the school year, it's a lucky twenty minutes before he is cold and it's time to go. And he has no interest in sitting in the car with toys or a tablet, and honestly I can't blame him and have felt like a real jerk the few times a farrier appointment has made that a necessity.

            Oh, and the toddler is literally half my income just on nursery school.

            Two horses, baby cripple horse, who was at a facility, until my old man horse was returned to me, now both are field boarded at a private farm. I afford, but don't save.
            Let me apologize in advance.


              High-end escort services! (Sorry, I couldn't resist... )
              "Dogs give and give and give. Cats are the gift that keeps on grifting." —Bradley Trevor Greive


                Originally posted by chestnutmarebeware View Post
                High-end escort services! (Sorry, I couldn't resist... )
                but that has an end date...really gotta move into upper management in that line of work
                Let me apologize in advance.


                  No kids.


                    Sell body parts...


                      I work hard so my horse can have a better life.

                      I work in online education, sitting in between the curriculum and the technology groups. My position works primarily from home and my hours tend to be flexible because I work with a lot of different time zones. In summer I work 7:30-4 most days so I can be at the barn and riding by 5. In winter it's a crapshoot because it doesn't matter what time I get out there, it's dark. In theory, as long as I set up a wifi hotspot for meetings, I could work from a horse show and no one would care. (I have absolutely worked from "standing in the middle of a field hand-grazing my horse, sorry about the background noise.")

                      My horse is semi-retired so we don't go anywhere these days, but I am lucky to live in an area where I can ship an hour or less to an A or B show pretty much any weekend of the year. My salary would allow me to show once a month or so if I wanted to.
                      "I'm not always sarcastic. Sometimes I'm asleep." - Harry Dresden


                        I had to wait to ride again in my mid-30's once I had established my career. My parents never funded my horse habit so I have always had to pay for it on my own. A strong work ethic is key. Now I am able to pay for my horses (my SO does not fund it) and I still work FT and plan to until I can't work anymore. Horses are expensive. There are no short cuts. Get a great job, work hard, move up the ladder and one day you can fund it.


                          I'm a quality control chemist in a plant that manufactures all types of superglue. I don't make a ton of money, but I make enough to get by comfortably. I work full time, but off hours (2pm-10:30pm). I don't love the hours, but that allows me to get out and ride before work most days. I have one horse (and will only have one horse at a time). I'm fortunate in that I've known/been mentored by my trainer/BO for over 15 years, and she cuts me a deal on board (for various reasons). I was 27 before I ever had my own horse, and she helps make it feasible for me. I love her for that.


                            I am a software engineer in Canada. I am paying off student debt left, right and centre but am still able to pull off 2-3 rated shows a year and I recently bought a big warmblood on payments to the breeder. I am able to afford a show barn's indoor board and coach, but I cannot afford vacations/mortgage yet.
                            Maybe one day- all where your priorities are.


                              I think it’s not just about what you do but how you got to it.
                              for instance, I knew a doctor who 10 years out of school still couldn’t afford to buy a new car because of student loans. Yeah, some doctors make 300k+ a year, but she sure wasn’t and was paying student loan bills I couldn’t even imagine.
                              I also met a doc who went to the military after his schooling. They paid off all his loans and he was living in a fancy house with a brand new Tesla in his late 30s.

                              A family friend has no degree but cleans test tubes for a living. It pays well. She makes enough to spend 2 weeks in welly world every winter with her fancy warmblood.

                              Two nurses live in a neighborhood not far from me. One makes 50k a year and works long, hard, hours. The other clears 200k a year and could easily make more, and works 2 weeks a month. Neither had more schooling, it’s just that they went different paths and gained different skill sets.

                              Point being, it’s not the job title or degree but the opportunity that pays the horse bills. You could be a Harvard lawyer who couldn’t afford to gas up their car, or you could be a garbage pickup person who vacations in Maui twice a year.


                                So true, TooManyBays! One just never knows what another's situation is. I am fortunate to have the means to hit the circuit hard. BUT I have kids and a small farm and other priorities so I just don't do it. Kids are not only financially draining, but time-draining, leaving little time or desire for me to be with the horses in a big way. We putz around, I enjoy them, they enjoy me and the kids see me too. A win all-around for me.


                                  The AO’s that show on the rated circuit with my daughters’ trainer/barn are either born wealthy (i.e. trust fund beneficiaries), professionals (e.g. physicians and a lawyer), successful entrepreneurs or are married to same.
                                  Last edited by TrophyHusband; Jan. 6, 2020, 10:01 AM.


                                    Attorney here, and it's still tough. My struggle was finding a job that paid enough to own horses, but also gave me enough flexibility to actually ride. It's difficult to find that balance in the legal industry, especially earlier on in your career.