Stallion Spotlight

Sir Donnerhall_02Beelitz

Real Estate Spotlight

Spratt_air 1
  • Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You�re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the Forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it�details of personal disputes may be better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts, though are not legally obligated to do so, regardless of content.

Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting. Moderators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts unless they have been alerted and have determined that a post, thread or user has violated the Forums� policies. Moderators do not regularly independently monitor the Forums for such violations.

Profanity, outright vulgarity, blatant personal insults or otherwise inappropriate statements will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Users may provide their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, individuals, etc.; however, accounts involving allegations of criminal behavior against named individuals or companies MUST be first-hand accounts and may NOT be made anonymously.

If a situation has been reported upon by a reputable news source or addressed by law enforcement or the legal system it is open for discussion, but if an individual wants to make their own claims of criminal behavior against a named party in the course of that discussion, they too must identify themselves by first and last name and the account must be first-person.

Criminal allegations that do not satisfy these requirements, when brought to our attention, may be removed pending satisfaction of these criteria, and we reserve the right to err on the side of caution when making these determinations.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it�s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users� profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses � Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it�s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who�s selling it, it doesn�t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions � Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services � Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products � While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements � Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be �bumped� excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues � Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators� discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the �alert� button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your �Ignore� list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you�d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user�s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 5/9/18)
See more
See less

First “big girl” saddle purchase.

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • First “big girl” saddle purchase.

    So, I’ve been riding in an AP saddle (unmarked) that was gifted to me for some time now. It’s fitted to my horse quite well so I’m not in a huge hurry to replace it but I am starting to think about saving up for a “real” saddle. I’m looking for a nicer used jump saddle for a medium/ medium wide appendix with dips behind the shoulder (that are slowly filling out). I’ve got a few questions:

    1) what are some good quality saddle brands that won’t break the bank?
    2)I was hoping to spend ~$1000... I know I won’t get something brand new or top of the line, but would this be a good price point for something good quality & comfortable for both rider and horse that will last for the foreseeable future?
    3) where would be some good places to start shopping online? There aren’t any tack shops in my area. I was hoping to shop somewhere that offers trials.

    I am on the shorter side (around 5’3) and my legs are about average length for my frame. I really do not like saddles with very deep seats. I am also leaning towards wool flocked saddles due to the ability to further adjust their fit.

  • #2
    County, Stubben, and Passier all make good quality wool flocked saddles, and older models can be found for $1000. I mean older but still recognizably contemporary jump saddles not pancakes from the 1970s for $150

    They all make a variety of models with different seat and flap placement. Obviously the 2019 models won't be a direct reflection of the 2001 models you will be shopping for so you will need to evaluate each older model that you see.

    Comment


    • #3
      Pelham Saddlery has a pretty good selection of used saddles and offers trials. I bought my dressage saddle from them and was very happy with the process.

      There are also many Facebook groups for selling tack - High End Used Saddles is one. There is also a used Stubben group. Often sellers will allow a trial, although you are taken a bigger chance than with an established business. Some sellers on EBay may also offer trials.

      If if you have an independent saddle fitter you trust, you can ask them for recommendations of brands/models that are likely to fit your horse to help narrow your search. Shipping saddles around the country - usually at about $50 each way - can add up quickly. There are also online instructions/videos about how to do wither tracings - I've never done this myself, but I think some places will give guidance on potential saddles that may work if you send them your horse's wither tracings.

      Comment


      • #4
        Agree with Scribbler's list above. I'd also suggest looking at used Pessoas, new Henri de Rivel, or new Toulouse. All okay saddles in my book.

        Comment


        • #5
          May I ask where you are located?

          Comment


          • #6
            Also check with Trumbull Mountain. I've bought from them online before and they were very helpful. https://www.trumbullmtn.com/

            Comment

            • Original Poster

              #7
              Originally posted by KingRocker4Life View Post
              May I ask where you are located?
              East TN area

              Comment


              • #8
                I've always heard good things about buying remotely from Trumbull Mountain. I wouldn't even consider a Toulouse, new or used but the brands Scribbler mentioned are all good quality saddles.

                Comment

                • Original Poster

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BAC View Post
                  I've always heard good things about buying remotely from Trumbull Mountain. I wouldn't even consider a Toulouse, new or used but the brands Scribbler mentioned are all good quality saddles.
                  I have heard mixed reviews on the Toulouse saddles. May I ask why you’re not a fan? I’ve sat in one and wasn't blown away but just about anything feels nicer than what I’m riding in right now.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rushing1 View Post

                    I have heard mixed reviews on the Toulouse saddles. May I ask why you’re not a fan? I’ve sat in one and wasn't blown away but just about anything feels nicer than what I’m riding in right now.
                    It probably won't feel so nice to your poor horse though. When I was working in a tack shop we sold lots of them to people who were impressed by their pretty look and cheap price, only to come back within a year or less because they were uncomfortable for rider and horse and didn't hold up well. Lots of complaints about the balance or backsore horses. You get what you pay for and these are cheap saddles.

                    Some people love them and have good luck with them, but I would much rather spend $1,000 on a better quality but older, used brand like some of the others mentioned already. Pessoa is another decent brand that should be in your price range.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BAC View Post

                      It probably won't feel so nice to your poor horse though. When I was working in a tack shop we sold lots of them to people who were impressed by their pretty look and cheap price, only to come back within a year or less because they were uncomfortable for rider and horse and didn't hold up well. Lots of complaints about the balance or backsore horses. You get what you pay for and these are cheap saddles.

                      Some people love them and have good luck with them, but I would much rather spend $1,000 on a better quality but older, used brand like some of the others mentioned already. Pessoa is another decent brand that should be in your price range.
                      Agreed. I would always buy an older quality saddle over a cheaper new one. A new County Stubben or Passier is about $4000 CAN (probably less in $US). You can get older models in fine shape and have them reflocked to fit your horse. I would never buy a new English saddle that was new $1000. Fit balance flocking overall quality, yuck.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        I'd add Black Country to your list as well. They are wool flocked.

                        Comment

                        • Original Poster

                          #13
                          Thanks you guys! I am defiantly looking at used models. The newer cheap ones do sketch me out and I do prioritize the fit for the horse over my own. I will be working with a saddle fitter., I just wanted some more opinions of where to look and what for.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            I have a Thornhill Germania jump that I like. It is wool flocked. They have a few other models. I don't know if they are all wool flocked. Solid saddle, not fancy, holding up well.
                            Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community. (Tidy Rabbit)

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Maybe also check out equusnow.com. A quick searched yielded a nice looking Beval in your price point as well as a few Pessoa's. Personally, I would save up and get a used Devoucoux or Butet or one like that. They are super well-made and last forever,imo. The Bevals that I knew in my past were also very well made. Good luck!

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                Saddles are so personal - the balance, depth, blocking (or not), twist, and horse preference, for starters - that it's really hard to say. You just need to sit in whatever you can find, to start to narrow down what you like. Borrow your friends' saddles, etc. Just for a ride or maybe two, if it seems promising. Even sitting in them on a stand can give you a bit of an idea. Do you have anything like Equine Affaire in your area? Or big shows with vendors? Shipping saddles gets very expensive fast, unfortunately.

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Victorious View Post
                                  Maybe also check out equusnow.com. A quick searched yielded a nice looking Beval in your price point as well as a few Pessoa's. Personally, I would save up and get a used Devoucoux or Butet or one like that. They are super well-made and last forever,imo. The Bevals that I knew in my past were also very well made. Good luck!
                                  OP indicated that she preferred wool flocked. I used to have a Beval Devon 2000 that I loved but it was foam. I think both Devoucoux and Butet are foam.
                                  Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community. (Tidy Rabbit)

                                  Comment

                                  Working...
                                  X