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Frequent Horse Tripping - What To Do?

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  • #41
    I don't think this possibility has been mentioned yet, so I will throw it out there: Tripping is a classic sign of poor saddle fit. This mare is new to you--have you had an independent saddle fitter assess your tack? Don't rely on brand reps; find someone who isn't selling saddles.

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    • #42
      My horse started tripping last winter. It started with one trip per ride and then up to four. I made some dietary changes that took about 5-6 months to see the effects and she no longer trips. It turns out I live in an area with high selenium levels and my feed and supplements were adding additional selenium to toxic levels. Some other things to consider besides what everyone else has recommended (cervical arthritis, EPM, toxic plants, footing, feet too long, saddle fit, etc.) is Vitamin E deficiency and EPSM. Here are some links I checked out:

      https://listentoyourhorse.com/equine...-e-deficiency/

      https://www.ruralheritage.com/vet_cl...mlookalike.htm

      If you or your trainer feel like it is becoming dangerous, definitely get the vet involved.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Cally0826 View Post
        My horse started tripping last winter. It started with one trip per ride and then up to four. I made some dietary changes that took about 5-6 months to see the effects and she no longer trips. It turns out I live in an area with high selenium levels and my feed and supplements were adding additional selenium to toxic levels. Some other things to consider besides what everyone else has recommended (cervical arthritis, EPM, toxic plants, footing, feet too long, saddle fit, etc.) is Vitamin E deficiency and EPSM. Here are some links I checked out:

        https://listentoyourhorse.com/equine...-e-deficiency/

        https://www.ruralheritage.com/vet_cl...mlookalike.htm

        If you or your trainer feel like it is becoming dangerous, definitely get the vet involved.
        This is very interesting! How did you determine selenium levels in your area? where do you live? I supplement with Vit E but need to check dosage and can’t remember if Selenium is added. Good article though - thanks.

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        • #44
          Watching the two videos you posted, she tripped on a different front foot each time (as if the foot buckled) and then even seemed to have issues with her hind end on one of the trips.

          As others have already said, I would stop riding her and take her to the vet - maybe even a second opinion (so different from the one that did the PPE). If this is happening frequently that she is tripping in that fashion, something does not seem right.

          In my mind, tripping because of a bad farrier trim should be more the horse actually TRIPPING. Not the leg/foot buckling. She's buckling, like it's giving out. Ruling out something neurological would be at the top of my list.
          It is not enough to know how to ride; one must know how to fall.

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          • #45
            Watching the videos in slow motion, it looks like she never gets her leg locked out. Could it be sore heels/navicular making her reluctant to get her weight properly on that part of her foot? Does it happen more during jumping? If it happens consistently enough, vet could try blocking heels and see if that stops it?

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            • #46
              And I would be sure she has proper nerve sensitivity in her feet - that she hasn't been "nerved".

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              • #47
                You have received many good suggestions to follow up on. Regardless of the reason for tripping, safety must always be your first consideration. I recommend you stop riding her until investigation has been done, and reason for tripping has been identified. Should you decline to do this, at the very least, stop jumping her. The risk of this mare going down with you under her is great. I repeat: I would not ride her.

                When I view the video, I too see not just a trip/stumble but a buckling of limbs. You indicate that these events are occurring with increased frequency. That is very worrisome. I would be booking a Vet appointment ASAP. Make sure you are present, and have video to show. Spend some time before the appointment to developing a map of symptoms. There is a huge difference is saying "Please check out my horse, she trips". vs "I purchased this mare 6 months ago. No issues were noted at that time. In the last 2 months she has begun tripping/stumbling with increasing frequency. Four times in my last lesson. Both fronts are involved, and at times she also buckles in the back." This is where you show videos.

                My gut follows Neuro issue, however I acknowledge that others have provided good arguments for alternate origins. No matter the cause, my recommendation remains the same. Stop riding until you have figured it out, or you run the risk of being the pancake under her.



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                  #48
                  Hello, everyone! I have an update for everyone that is following along.

                  Since the last post, I have had another lesson, flatted twice, and took her to the schooling show for exposure. She has not tripped since the lesson in the video attached to this thread. Everything has been going very well!

                  To answer some questions from a couple posts on here: She is currently on Platinum Performance since she is getting less than the amount of feed recommended on the bag, so I am not sure that a deficiency would fit here. She is very healthy with a shiny coat, good hooves, and bright eyes. I also do not think that she would be nerved since there were no signs of scarring or abnormalities located in the usual neurectomy locations at the PPE.

                  The farrier came out and took a second look and agreed that her toes were very long, so he made sure to shorten it while rolling it more than last time. She also has a chiropractic appointment scheduled for this week to see if she is possibly out of align somewhere and in any discomfort. I am interested to see what the chiropractor says since she has never been adjusted to my knowledge. The vet will be out in the next couple of weeks for routine things, so if it is still an issue, you better bet I will get them to look into it deeper.

                  I have also taken a look into my riding and made some changes with the help of my wonderful trainer. We are leaning towards the thought that I am not creating enough of the forward momentum and impulsion that she needs at this point in her training. My two previous horses were relatively hot and nervous, so asking having to create the forward energy rather than directing the energy is different for me. Since she is young and pretty lazy, she also has had a tendency to fall apart during downward transitions (aka she will slam on the breaks and fall on her forehand if you let her). I am now doing my best to make sure that I am asking for more impulsion and forwardness rather than just letting her shuffle around, supporting her in the downward transitions with more leg to hand, and balancing her more effectively overall.
                  https://pembrokesandponies.com

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by hunterjumper98 View Post
                    Hello, everyone! I have an update for everyone that is following along.

                    Since the last post, I have had another lesson, flatted twice, and took her to the schooling show for exposure. She has not tripped since the lesson in the video attached to this thread. Everything has been going very well!

                    To answer some questions from a couple posts on here: She is currently on Platinum Performance since she is getting less than the amount of feed recommended on the bag, so I am not sure that a deficiency would fit here. She is very healthy with a shiny coat, good hooves, and bright eyes. I also do not think that she would be nerved since there were no signs of scarring or abnormalities located in the usual neurectomy locations at the PPE.

                    The farrier came out and took a second look and agreed that her toes were very long, so he made sure to shorten it while rolling it more than last time. She also has a chiropractic appointment scheduled for this week to see if she is possibly out of align somewhere and in any discomfort. I am interested to see what the chiropractor says since she has never been adjusted to my knowledge. The vet will be out in the next couple of weeks for routine things, so if it is still an issue, you better bet I will get them to look into it deeper.

                    I have also taken a look into my riding and made some changes with the help of my wonderful trainer. We are leaning towards the thought that I am not creating enough of the forward momentum and impulsion that she needs at this point in her training. My two previous horses were relatively hot and nervous, so asking having to create the forward energy rather than directing the energy is different for me. Since she is young and pretty lazy, she also has had a tendency to fall apart during downward transitions (aka she will slam on the breaks and fall on her forehand if you let her). I am now doing my best to make sure that I am asking for more impulsion and forwardness rather than just letting her shuffle around, supporting her in the downward transitions with more leg to hand, and balancing her more effectively overall.
                    I think it sounds like you have a pretty good plan to go forward! Keep us updated!

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