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Maclay Regionals - Region 8 (CA, HI, NV) - Interesting Night, and Do-Overs

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  • Dorito
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    Originally posted by findeight View Post
    I defer to the decision of the Stewards here.
    Just for clarification, my understanding is that the steward was monitoring the warmup ring and was not informed of what was going on. The TD made the decision.

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  • blondewithchrome
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    Originally posted by Peggy View Post

    Augusta fell off at fence two when the horse stopped and then stopped out on her do-over. I assume that's who Nick is referring to as one of the top riders in the country. She almost didn't qualify last year: she wasn't on the initial list, but made it in when some riders elected not to go to KY(*).

    (*) The only reason I remember this is that a kid from my barn was just ahead of Augusta last year and we joked that she gave Augusta the opportunity to go to KY.
    Thank you, Peggy - your recap is so detailed, and really helpful for those of us who didn't get to experience!
    IMO, I have never been a fan of Augusta's style as an equitation rider and never place her in my personal top list, but judges do love her. She rides the hunters beautifully. But, still disappointing for her, she works really hard what I understand...good thing she is young and has another chance or two or more!

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  • Peggy
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    Originally posted by frenchsubway View Post

    I could be wrong, but I think the rider is Emma Reichow?
    Probably. She has shown in Grands Prix. She stopped at fence 2 and then qualified with a re-do.

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  • Peggy
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    Originally posted by MHM View Post

    Is this not the original order of go? It shows the eventual winner going first, but after that it does not match the results.

    https://showgroundslive.com/bes/clas...d/369/type/oog
    No. That starts from the top of my second page, goes down that page pretty much in order, and then continues on, starting at the top of my page 1, and continuing on mostly in the correct order. Strange

    Order started 615 (OK; qualified), 182 (OK, but elected re-do; qualified), 125 (OK; first on wait list), 143 (stop fence 2; redo fine; qualified), 541 (stop fence 2; redo not good; did not qualify), 142 (scratch, but listed later in order with a different horse; qualified on that horse), 703 (good, but rail; no redo; waitlisted), 355 (stop at fence 2; redo; qualified), 488 (hard look and over jump fence 2; stop and fall fence 3; redo still looky but got job done; last on wait list), 419 (OK, but slightly uneven; did not qualify), 106 (rail that was hers; awkward take-off on another (gasps from crowd), but fence 2 OK; redo; qualified) 209 (stopped out at fence 2; stopped out there again on redo), and 375 (stop/fall fence 2; stopped out fence 2 upon redo).

    I tend to note really good rounds and errors only since those are typically the questions I get from people who weren't there. So OK means they were good, but probably not top five
    Last edited by Peggy; Sep. 19, 2019, 03:25 AM. Reason: Added more information

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  • MHM
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    Originally posted by Peggy View Post

    That order of go is not correct. What used to the order or go now links to results.
    Is this not the original order of go? It shows the eventual winner going first, but after that it does not match the results.

    https://showgroundslive.com/bes/clas...d/369/type/oog

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  • Peggy
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    Originally posted by Tackpud View Post
    The ultimate winner of the class was in the order of go as first. Did she make it around the first time or did she do a re-ride?
    That order of go is not correct. What used to the order or go now links to results.

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  • Tackpud
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    The ultimate winner of the class was in the order of go as first. Did she make it around the first time or did she do a re-ride?

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  • frenchsubway
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    Originally posted by blondewithchrome View Post
    Who is the “Grand Prix” kid who fell off? I assume the other rider mentioned a few times is Augusta Iwasaki. I was shocked to see she didn’t qualify.
    I could be wrong, but I think the rider is Emma Reichow?

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  • Peggy
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    Originally posted by blondewithchrome View Post
    Who is the “Grand Prix” kid who fell off? I assume the other rider mentioned a few times is Augusta Iwasaki. I was shocked to see she didn’t qualify.
    Augusta fell off at fence two when the horse stopped and then stopped out on her do-over. I assume that's who Nick is referring to as one of the top riders in the country. She almost didn't qualify last year: she wasn't on the initial list, but made it in when some riders elected not to go to KY(*).

    Not sure about the Grand Prix rider that Nick is referring to. I haven't been ambitious enough to cross check my list of stops in the first twelve against show records. Maybe tomorrow if I get stuck going in for jury duty.

    (*) The only reason I remember this is that a kid from my barn was just ahead of Augusta last year and we joked that she gave Augusta the opportunity to go to KY.

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  • blondewithchrome
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    Who is the “Grand Prix” kid who fell off? I assume the other rider mentioned a few times is Augusta Iwasaki. I was shocked to see she didn’t qualify.

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  • Peggy
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    Originally posted by Denali6298 View Post

    That Facebook thread is interesting.
    For sure. And to clarify, the quote posted by frenchsubway was written by Nick Haness in response to Holly Scapa’s post, not by Holly.

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  • findeight
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    IMO, if a fence, intended or not, turns into more of a trap then a question, it’s appropriate to change and/or avoid duplicating it in the future. Said that over on a Eventing last week as well. Whatever the reason, it’s more about avoiding an accident and injured rider and/ or horse in a very public venue then dumbing anything down. Keep in mind that this class is not run under the usual USE rules but it’s own unique procedures.

    I defer to the decision of the Stewards here. It looks like the issue was the bottom of that fence does look like a black hole and you got white tablecloths and maybe server jackets at the horses eye level heading into the brightly lit scoreboard.. Not intended but it did turn into a trap for most, including very experienced pairs.

    They made the right call.

    Have no opinion on Heritage riders selecting a different zone then the barn is located in. These days top riders don’t just show in their own regions regardless of where they or the horse they lease or own legally reside. And they are completely within the rules. Maybe try to get better instead of fearing better riders, which you have to meet in the Finals anyway at far greater expense then Regionals.

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  • MHM
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    This is the list of kids who qualified, along with the waitlist.

    http://nhs.showmanagementsystem.com/...ection/170/8/m

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  • MHM
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    Originally posted by Denali6298 View Post

    That Facebook thread is interesting.
    That is for sure.

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  • Denali6298
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    Originally posted by frenchsubway View Post

    Holly Scapa's, it currently has over 300 comments on a picture of said jump
    That Facebook thread is interesting.

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  • MintHillFarm
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    I saw one ride, a rider that ended up in 12th. Her horse peeked at the oxer, but jumped it in stride...It looked like the filler may have appeared odd, and the fact the VIP dinning tables were mere inches away from that oxer, the fist jump (second jump on course) in the outside line.

    Order of go:
    https://showgroundslive.com/bes/clas...Order/cgid/250

    Results:
    https://showgroundslive.com/bes/classes/Detail/cid/369

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  • MHM
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    Originally posted by frenchsubway View Post

    Holly Scapa's, it currently has over 300 comments on a picture of said jump
    Thanks. And welcome to the BB.

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  • frenchsubway
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    Originally posted by MHM View Post

    What big Facebook post?
    Holly Scapa's, it currently has over 300 comments on a picture of said jump

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  • MHM
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    Originally posted by frenchsubway View Post
    Someone commented on the big facebook post
    What big Facebook post?

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  • frenchsubway
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    Someone commented on Holly Scapa's facebook post (a picture of the jump in question) saying,

    "The kids that actually had a shot at representing the west coast proud and could actually ride the Maclay finals track had issues becuase of this poor judgment jump on the course (course designer error). One kid who stopped currently wins Grand Prixs. The other kid is without question one of the best riders in the entire country . She got pitched into the middle of this jump . Some first timers (fact ) chipped around the course but somehow managed to kick like hell over the oxer would have qualified , would have made it to Maclay finals , and would have sank and drowned in the national championships . Is that who we wanted to represent the west coast ?"

    This feels like it's totally invalidating the riders who made it over the course the first time - I know luck might be a factor, but sometimes riders who aren't big names have success.
    Last edited by frenchsubway; Sep. 18, 2019, 01:00 PM. Reason: to add who posted said facebook post :)

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