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    So with my out-of-state job, and some budget challenges this year, I've decided I really need to reduce the herd a bit.
    But I keep my horses at home, I'm not out on the H/J circuit these days, and I honestly don't know what realistic asking prices are. My goal is #1 good homes, #2 quick/easy sale.
    Also, now that FB is cracking down on animal sales, how are people getting the word out on their sale horses that aren't in a program and benefitting from trainer's connections?

    My horses live on my private farm, and I have limited availability (think weekends) to ride them/show them off. Also, no indoor, small outdoor, etc. I know this isn't ideal, but it's what I have, and sending two horses off on sale board is not in the budget right now. I'm just interested in what people think is a good price range for what I'm describing. The horses live in Central NC.

    Horse #1: 17.2hh (w/ card) imported from Germany, 14yo bay Hanoverian gelding. Coming off a 1-yr off-farm lease in early November. He's done hunters, eq, jumpers, and dressage, but almost exclusively at the local level. He's currently showing monthly on the good state H/J circuit and doing very well in the Adult Amateur hunters and eqs. Good mover, and more whoa than go, but also a little bit of a worrier. Not spooky, but appreciates a soft rider with a good eye. He's pretty casual over 2'9-3' and has plenty of scope for 3'6 and beyond, but no show mileage at that height. Easy lead changes. He's been ridden by me most of his life, and I'm short, so he's very light for a big horse. But everyone local looking for a hunter says he's too big. He's a puppy-dog on the ground, loves his people and having a job. He also trail rides. Sound, though does have some cosmetic scars and lumps, not unexpected in a coming 15yo. I got him from the breeder as a 3yo and know his whole history. He's just too big for me to enjoy riding with my bad back He's fancy enough for an A horse but I don't have the connections to reach those people. The trainer who has him in her program LOVES him, but her students are primarily kids on school ponies/first horses, and he's a little too big for any of them. I love this horse, but sadly realize that with my age and injuries, he's just not the right horse for me.

    Hose #2: 16hh big bodied 14yo Hanoverian mare. Very, very well bred (dressage) but still a maiden. I actually got her to breed but was having so much fun riding her that I never did. Has her own motor for sure and is not for a beginner. She's not a runaway but goes best with a little Pelham and a rider who knows how to half halt. However, she jumps anything, never takes offense when the riders misses, and then misses again. Has evented (local level) through novice with prior owner, I showed her in the local 2'6 hunters. She actually has a very attractive jump with a good front end. She has a lead change, but it's not auto. Loves to trail ride/ride cross country and is very game. Does water, has hunter paced, and would probably make a great field hunter or straight jumper. No rated H/J miles, and very few local hunter miles. Sound with one cosmetic scar. Lives in, lives out, good with dogs/chickens/etc.

    I don't want to give either away, and I also know that "budget homes" often mean "budget care", and I want both to go to good homes/programs. But I acknowledge that without good H/J contacts and a fancy farm with an indoor, that that will affect prices. I also know that Nov/Dec is not the ideal time to sell a horse.
    So, thoughts on the right start point/range to market these two, and where I should market them?

    Thanks!!


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    Two almost 15 year olds that are sound and safe but have no experience other then local shows are going to have to be offered as what they are, not what they might have been with more training and few will want to take on mid teen projects. 17,2 is too big for many riders who will do all care by themselves, yes you hear anecdotal exceptions but if you need too get on a big step stool or 3 step mounting block to get the saddle and bridle on then get yourself up there, going to slow some buyers down. Especially shorter, older ones who dread getting off a real big one.

    As they are and where they are with very limited opportunities to try them, thinking an around 5k ask each to start with might be fair to you and get you a qualified buyer with some funding.

    Think you really need to call anybody you know to get the word out, even trainers- they know more potential buyers then you do. Also think your location and limited availability to host buyers is going to limit your buyer pool so pricing needs to reflect that so you can get them out to you. Oh, have you thought about vets in your area who will schedule a PPE on a weekend? Give some thought to how you will organize this before buyers ask. If you can’t be there weekdays and your available vets run limited hours on weekends, might need some advance planning.

    Speaking of PPEs, have you had any recent imaging done? At 15 they are going to show some wear and tear, best know beforehand exactly what you got.
    Last edited by findeight; Sep. 12, 2019, 08:02 AM.
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    • #3
      Hey, PM me prices or e-mail/FB some video and I'll pass that on to a local pro here who might have clients? And the Hanoverian was my sherpa horse in the Foundation? Would you consider leasing her to be bred?
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        If you could find someone to take the mare novice again you could market her to eventers, though with little experience at that age I doubt you'd get more than 10k for her....
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        • #5
          ElementFarm I just wanted to say they sound lovely and it sucks and is so hard when perfectly nice horses start to get some age on them when you need to move them on. I just took my 19yr old back from what I thought was a permanent situation, and am fairly resigned to that limiting things with the young horse for the foreseeable future.

          Best of luck finding a great situation for them.

          I feel like there has to be a couple of competent adults who want to trail ride nice horses in southern pines!!
          Let me apologize in advance.

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            Originally posted by ElementFarm View Post
            So with my out-of-state job, and some budget challenges this year, I've decided I really need to reduce the herd a bit.
            But I keep my horses at home, I'm not out on the H/J circuit these days, and I honestly don't know what realistic asking prices are. My goal is #1 good homes, #2 quick/easy sale.
            Also, now that FB is cracking down on animal sales, how are people getting the word out on their sale horses that aren't in a program and benefitting from trainer's connections?

            My horses live on my private farm, and I have limited availability (think weekends) to ride them/show them off. Also, no indoor, small outdoor, etc. I know this isn't ideal, but it's what I have, and sending two horses off on sale board is not in the budget right now. I'm just interested in what people think is a good price range for what I'm describing. The horses live in Central NC.

            Horse #1: 17.2hh (w/ card) imported from Germany, 14yo bay Hanoverian gelding. Coming off a 1-yr off-farm lease in early November. He's done hunters, eq, jumpers, and dressage, but almost exclusively at the local level. He's currently showing monthly on the good state H/J circuit and doing very well in the Adult Amateur hunters and eqs. Good mover, and more whoa than go, but also a little bit of a worrier. Not spooky, but appreciates a soft rider with a good eye. He's pretty casual over 2'9-3' and has plenty of scope for 3'6 and beyond, but no show mileage at that height. Easy lead changes. He's been ridden by me most of his life, and I'm short, so he's very light for a big horse. But everyone local looking for a hunter says he's too big. He's a puppy-dog on the ground, loves his people and having a job. He also trail rides. Sound, though does have some cosmetic scars and lumps, not unexpected in a coming 15yo. I got him from the breeder as a 3yo and know his whole history. He's just too big for me to enjoy riding with my bad back He's fancy enough for an A horse but I don't have the connections to reach those people. The trainer who has him in her program LOVES him, but her students are primarily kids on school ponies/first horses, and he's a little too big for any of them. I love this horse, but sadly realize that with my age and injuries, he's just not the right horse for me.

            Hose #2: 16hh big bodied 14yo Hanoverian mare. Very, very well bred (dressage) but still a maiden. I actually got her to breed but was having so much fun riding her that I never did. Has her own motor for sure and is not for a beginner. She's not a runaway but goes best with a little Pelham and a rider who knows how to half halt. However, she jumps anything, never takes offense when the riders misses, and then misses again. Has evented (local level) through novice with prior owner, I showed her in the local 2'6 hunters. She actually has a very attractive jump with a good front end. She has a lead change, but it's not auto. Loves to trail ride/ride cross country and is very game. Does water, has hunter paced, and would probably make a great field hunter or straight jumper. No rated H/J miles, and very few local hunter miles. Sound with one cosmetic scar. Lives in, lives out, good with dogs/chickens/etc.

            I don't want to give either away, and I also know that "budget homes" often mean "budget care", and I want both to go to good homes/programs. But I acknowledge that without good H/J contacts and a fancy farm with an indoor, that that will affect prices. I also know that Nov/Dec is not the ideal time to sell a horse. So, thoughts on the right start point/range to market these two, and where I should market them?

            Thanks!!
            I know you said sending out two horses to be sold is not in the budget, but maybe you can find a way to send out one at a time. Both of your horses sound very marketable, but it would be easier to find buyers if they are at a barn where they can be tried any day of the week, irrespective of weather.

            As for places to advertise, warmbloods-sales.com and bigeq.com come to mind. Make sure you have good pictures and video because that is the first thing everyone asks for.

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            • #7
              The mare would be right up my alley if I wasn't currently relearning how to walk!

              I have to agree with the 5-10K range. If you can post on FB with links to a YouTube video or external website, they seem to still be getting through. Otherwise BigEq seems to do a great job advertising the horses posted. Maybe there's a couple Raleigh /Durham trainers you could call up and see if they have anyone looking? Maybe if it's a trainer you trust, you could let them go on trial.

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