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  • #21
    Originally posted by jherold View Post
    I'd wait until the job situation was worked out. He' a quarter horse in hunterland and it's fall. He may not sell all that fast and he can always be shipped back if you decide to buy him later. Plus if he doesnt sell right away the price may go down. Horses are like men and busses. There's always another.
    I’d mostly agree with this. Just because she ships him off to wherever she’s going doesn’t mean you can’t ship him back in a month after you find a job. So here’s your motivation to find that job.

    If you get it together and decide to buy him I absolutely would not worry about him being a quarter horse. Your trainer likes him for you and it sounds like you really like him and feel confident riding him.

    People make the mistake all the time of buying the horse they need in 3 years. Don’t do that. Buy the horse you need now. If this guy is really a steady Eddie that’ll take you through the 3ft that’s all the horse you need. When you need more you can find him a new person to teach. It’s going to take you a lot longer to get past the 3ft if you’re on something with a bad attitude or a screw loose.

    One last thing, vet vet VET him or any horse you’re considering purchasing. Like plan on spending a grand on your prepurchase. At the very least it will set you up to better negotiate the price, and if it saves you from a time bomb like navicular then that’s money well spent.1

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    • #22
      Since you are not in your next job yet, do you know for sure that job will be compatible with horse ownership? I know from experience that owning a horse is more doable (and more fun) when you have a job flexible enough to pick the nice time of day to ride, etc. When a full-time schedule and commute forces you to ride in the dark on cold nights when you are already tired from a tough work day... it requires a lot more dedication and energy!

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        #23
        Thank you all so much to everyone who answered!!

        I ended up putting that businss degree I have to good use and with the help of my trainer was able to negotiate an extension of my lease, however rather than paying his lease fee month to month like I was, I paid the next six months in advance with the intent to purchase if in six months I am secure in my new job (which I have an offer letter for and just need to physically turn in to accept the positon) I will apply those six months I already paid as a lease to his overall purchase price (I think his owner is assuming / hoping I’ll end up just buying him, but I had my lawyer friend look over the contract and if I want out in six months I can get out no problem.)

        This way we can try out a few of the local shows (even though he has shown in some of the western classes before) and I can ease my way into ownership rather than panicking and jumping head first because he was leaving. This also lessens the financial burden, because other than paying up front for the next six months, none of his other expenses will change (except now I can finally cut off his western mane!)

        Even though I am currently still just leasing him, I am getting him checked over by the barn vet next week while he’s in the area because now I’m paranoid, and want to make sure there are no surprises in six months if I do decide to follow through with his purchase.

        Once again thank you all to everyone who commented- y’all helped me get creative to find a solution!

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        • #24
          Sounds like a great solution. Good job!
          ~~ How do you catch a loose horse? Make a noise like a carrot! - British Cavalry joke ~~

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          • #25
            What a sensible solution! You did good!

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            • #26
              When asking a trusted friend about qualities in a horse to buy, the most important is a "great brain".
              It sounds like he has that most important quality. Congrats!!

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              • #27
                Originally posted by AlexxSays View Post
                Thank you all so much to everyone who answered!!

                I ended up putting that businss degree I have to good use and with the help of my trainer was able to negotiate an extension of my lease, however rather than paying his lease fee month to month like I was, I paid the next six months in advance with the intent to purchase if in six months I am secure in my new job (which I have an offer letter for and just need to physically turn in to accept the positon) I will apply those six months I already paid as a lease to his overall purchase price (I think his owner is assuming / hoping I’ll end up just buying him, but I had my lawyer friend look over the contract and if I want out in six months I can get out no problem.)

                This way we can try out a few of the local shows (even though he has shown in some of the western classes before) and I can ease my way into ownership rather than panicking and jumping head first because he was leaving. This also lessens the financial burden, because other than paying up front for the next six months, none of his other expenses will change (except now I can finally cut off his western mane!)

                Even though I am currently still just leasing him, I am getting him checked over by the barn vet next week while he’s in the area because now I’m paranoid, and want to make sure there are no surprises in six months if I do decide to follow through with his purchase.

                Once again thank you all to everyone who commented- y’all helped me get creative to find a solution!
                That a GREAT turn of events. Good job!

                Because you have 6 months, I would strongly recommend looking at and trying other horses in the same price range as this guy. Call the lease fee sunk cost until you decide this horse holds up to the competition in his price bracket. Even if he’s the really one, you’ll feel better for having shopped around.

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                • #28
                  Something else to consider, which I’ve had to consider for my own children that are beginners. It is very important to ride a variety of horses, the more horses you can ride the more experiences you get the better horseman you become. If as a beginner you purchase a horse this early in your career, make sure not to limit yourself to just him. Ride as many horses as you can get your hands on.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by AlexxSays View Post
                    Hi!

                    I know I posted previously about looking for a new lease and getting used to working with the head trainer at my barn after the assistant trainer left. I'm sorry this is going to be so long, but I'm extremely conflicted on what to do.

                    The reason I was looking for a new lease was because the woman that owned the quarter horse I was leasing was planning on moving and taking her horse with her. (I kind of stumbled into him originally because she was a friend of a friend who boards at the barn and was looking for a place for him to stay for the summer and while he was there figured she may as well lease him out).

                    She has now decided she wants to sell him, and the head trainer at my barn, who I am currently working with, is fully convinced that she should sell him to me.

                    I've only been riding for a little over a year, and pending on what happens with the horse situation am supposed to start doing some smaller schooling shows with my barn in October.

                    Basically, I have the opportunity to purchase a super sweet horse, who I absolutely adore and I have until next week to decide or she's going to take him back and try and sell him elsewhere. She's not interested in continuing to lease him, because she's moving out of state and either he sells here soon or she's bringing him with her.

                    I'm hesitating because I wasn't planning on even thinking about purchasing a horse until next summer at the earliest.

                    Additionally, even though he's 16.1 hands, he's still a quarter horse and he's only been jumping about six months, he does seem to enjoy it a lot more than the competitive trail riding and roping he was doing before though and has never refused a jump and just listens so well and tries so hard.

                    He has great scope and is extremely broke and doesn't have a malicious bone in his body. Plus he's only ten, and has never had any injury issues! The trainers at my barn just keep saying what a great pair we are, and how far we have come together the last few months, and how we need to continue our partnership. I know we have improved immensely and there is still room for us to grow. He's basically the perfect first horse, except for the timing and the fact that he's a quarter horse which I've read don't necessarily do well in shows, which is something I am interested in pursuing if the local schooling shows work out (even though he keeps up with the warmbloods in TBs in our lessons and he looks more TBy despite his apparently "fancy quarter horse bloodlines" according to a barn friend that looked over his papers).

                    Because of his bloodlines he is also priced higher than I was expecting, especially because even though we aren't there yet, they don't think he probably doesn't have much potential over three feet / three foot three. I could try and negotiate his price down but I don't even have any idea of what would be a realistic ask for him.

                    Despite all of this, every part of me wants to buy him, he's such a little teddybear and I trust him completely, he does wonderfully in our arena jumping and is also great on the trails around the property. I just know in a year or two I'll be outgrowing his abilities and I also haven't been riding that long and should ease into ownership. I also just quit my miserable job and am currently searching for a new one. I have the money up front for him, but know that long term horses and everything else for them is extremely expensive.

                    My family aren't animal people and said they are staying out of it, but if I do decide to buy him not to expect any kind of financial help from them with it (not that I was expecting any). My heart wants to buy him more than anything, but the realistic side of me isn't sure it's the right time.

                    Does anyone have any advice? Have they found themselves in a situation like this? Did they buy the horse and regret it? I'm just not sure I'm going to be able to handle watching him be trailered away after working together four-five days a week for almost six months.

                    Thank you so much and I hope that it's okay I posted this!
                    "He lives in a cocoon of solipsism" https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/c...lies/smile.gif

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                    • #30
                      I haven't read all of this thread, but I want to put in my $,02:

                      1 The cheapest part of horse ownership is the purchase price. [as in: it costs just as much to feed/shoe/lesson/show a cheap horse as an expensive one. Is this horse one who will take you where you want to go, or a low level horse who you love now, but who will not meet your future plans? Is it a horse who will be easy to sell in several years? If you want to buy a horse, take your heart out of the equation and buy a horse who will fit all your needs. You will also fall in love with that horse.

                      "He lives in a cocoon of solipsism" https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/c...lies/smile.gif

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by AlexxSays View Post
                        Thank you all so much to everyone who answered!!

                        I ended up putting that businss degree I have to good use and with the help of my trainer was able to negotiate an extension of my lease, however rather than paying his lease fee month to month like I was, I paid the next six months in advance with the intent to purchase if in six months I am secure in my new job (which I have an offer letter for and just need to physically turn in to accept the positon) I will apply those six months I already paid as a lease to his overall purchase price (I think his owner is assuming / hoping I’ll end up just buying him, but I had my lawyer friend look over the contract and if I want out in six months I can get out no problem.)

                        This way we can try out a few of the local shows (even though he has shown in some of the western classes before) and I can ease my way into ownership rather than panicking and jumping head first because he was leaving. This also lessens the financial burden, because other than paying up front for the next six months, none of his other expenses will change (except now I can finally cut off his western mane!)

                        Even though I am currently still just leasing him, I am getting him checked over by the barn vet next week while he’s in the area because now I’m paranoid, and want to make sure there are no surprises in six months if I do decide to follow through with his purchase.

                        Once again thank you all to everyone who commented- y’all helped me get creative to find a solution!
                        It sounds as though you've come up with the perfect solution. Well done!

                        I just want to add that horses are easy to fall in love with. Since this is the first horse you've had a relationship with, it doesn't surprise me that he feels "special" to you. I don't want to minimize the attachment you feel toward him, but especially since you think you'll outgrown this horse in a year or two, please keep in mind that chances are, your next horse will seem just as special to you.
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                        • #32
                          Out of curiosity can you post his breeding? I’m a qh girl whose aqha horses get mistaken as wb frequently at hunter shows. And that is a fantastic solution

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                          • #33
                            Congratulations! Glad you could pull it off with a better time frame you felt more comfortable with.

                            Never consult with non-horsepeople, they just don't get it.

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