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  • #21
    Originally posted by Redlei44 View Post

    Just make sure to ask permission from and coordinate this with the gate person first. The angriest I’ve ever seen a gate person was when someone didn’t ask/give heads up on this - I can no longer recall if there were official show rules backing him up but he definitely threatened to have them scratched from the rest of the show if they ever pulled that again. Keep your gate people happy!
    Good point - I thought it was obvious that you would ask to trot in the ring, but apparently not LOL. Each time I've seen it done the person has asked ahead of time and the gate person opens the gate and clears the way.

    Not sure about hunter jumper rules, but I've seen it done specifically at events (which is what the OP referenced she does).
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    • #22
      You're going to laugh but on top of all of the other excellent suggestions, I would suggest that you sing to her on your way in. I'm not kidding- it can be just enough to distract them and get them to focus a bit more on you- it splits their attention from the other single minded thing their focused on or the many, many things they're focused on. Plus its non-forceful and will help YOU regulate your breathing by slowing down your diaphragm and will make you relax.

      I do this with my jumper when she gets anxious and her ears flicking back at me is just enough attention that she can refocus on our team and not everything else. pick something that matches the rhythm you want on course. You can stop once you cross the start line but it really does work!

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      • #23
        Do you think it would make a difference if you get on IN the ring? I'm not a jumper person at all but I think i've seen this done before.
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          #24
          Originally posted by PoochPaddock View Post
          Do you think it would make a difference if you get on IN the ring? I'm not a jumper person at all but I think i've seen this done before.
          If she gets so bad that I need to do this, I will revisit my priorities and work on something else. I honestly think that the horses that get so wound up that they can't even function in any semblance of control are missing some other part of their training in a huge way.

          I like the singing idea, Cocorona ! My mare: "Oh god, please stop, I'll do anything, not that stupid Creedence song again!!!"

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          • #25
            Does she know to listen for the bell? If so, I'd try ear plugs and a bonnet so she can't hear it anymore. Might take away one of the cues that makes her tense. Will probably take few outings to make her realize she isn't going to hear the bell anymore and to stop anticipating it. Won't solve the whole issue, but might be a piece of the puzzle. FWIW I have no idea about evenings rules, and if ear plugs are allowed or not.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Cocorona View Post
              You're going to laugh but on top of all of the other excellent suggestions, I would suggest that you sing to her on your way in. I'm not kidding- it can be just enough to distract them and get them to focus a bit more on you- it splits their attention from the other single minded thing their focused on or the many, many things they're focused on. Plus its non-forceful and will help YOU regulate your breathing by slowing down your diaphragm and will make you relax.

              I do this with my jumper when she gets anxious and her ears flicking back at me is just enough attention that she can refocus on our team and not everything else. pick something that matches the rhythm you want on course. You can stop once you cross the start line but it really does work!
              I totally sing to my lovely, athletic, but somewhat tense mare (OTTB; jumping is relaxing and fun, but walking is stressful and for chumps). She even has a theme song. Not sure if it helps her directly, or helps me settle, and therefore helps her, but it helps.

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              • #27
                Just FYI, there is nothing in the USEF Eventing rules requiring the rider to salute the Show Jumping judge. And you certainly do not need to halt for it. If an unrecognized Event tells you you need to salute, just nod your head while you are moving (walk, trot or canter) until the judge blows the whistle. (I am a licensed TD and Show Jumping judge.)
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by MegBackInSaddle View Post

                  I totally sing to my lovely, athletic, but somewhat tense mare (OTTB; jumping is relaxing and fun, but walking is stressful and for chumps). She even has a theme song. Not sure if it helps her directly, or helps me settle, and therefore helps her, but it helps.
                  "Oh, she's sweet but a psycho
                  A little bit psycho
                  At night she's screamin'
                  "I'm-ma-ma-ma out my mind"
                  Oh, she's hot but a psycho
                  So left but she's right though
                  At night she's screamin'
                  "I'm-ma-ma-ma out my mind"

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Janet View Post
                    Just FYI, there is nothing in the USEF Eventing rules requiring the rider to salute the Show Jumping judge. And you certainly do not need to halt for it. If an unrecognized Event tells you you need to salute, just nod your head while you are moving (walk, trot or canter) until the judge blows the whistle. (I am a licensed TD and Show Jumping judge.)
                    Oh this is great to know. Thank you! I will be in much better shape if I can avoid having to try to see if the judge saw my acknowledgement. Even if I can one hand it while riding out at a better clip, I believe I'll be in 100% better shape.

                    Thank you!

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                    • #30
                      Is it possible you could simulate this either at home or at a neighboring barn? That way you skip the show fees and also have more flexibility with how you deal with it?

                      Have you experimented with a groundpersob leading you guys in? This can make some more wound up but can really calm down others so it may be worth a try.

                      I do think it’s strange she doesn’t do this with cross country or dressage...there must be something about show jumping that she feels anxious about?
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                        #31
                        Originally posted by Mac123 View Post
                        Is it possible you could simulate this either at home or at a neighboring barn? That way you skip the show fees and also have more flexibility with how you deal with it?

                        Have you experimented with a groundpersob leading you guys in? This can make some more wound up but can really calm down others so it may be worth a try.

                        I do think it’s strange she doesn’t do this with cross country or dressage...there must be something about show jumping that she feels anxious about?
                        I have trailered out before. She can get wound at a new location, but because I can take the time between fences to do some flatwork, and it isn't wham bam done, I can keep the lid on it. I can try again though!

                        I think at this point, she may know the "name of the game" so to speak. Dressage is first, she's chill. Cross country is second, she's chill, but get excited (she is a monster xc, loves galloping out across terrain and will jump anything). By the time stadium rolls around, she knows what's up. She's a really hot horse that requires a tactful ride, but I cross train just about everything with her (mounted orienteering, camping, some gymkhana stuff, trail classes), so we've gotten to know each other quite well.

                        I can get her in, at the moment. She doesn't hesitate at the gate. It's once we're in, she's immediately playing hop scotch with about a pound a piece on her front legs. I think knowing the rules better, that I don't in fact have to wait for the judge to acknowledge me back before being able to get her moving, will help me a lot. Movement is her jam - if in doubt, she moves.

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