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HITS sells California and Arizona Shows

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  • HITS sells California and Arizona Shows

    Another development in a whacky horse world week.
    https://www.chronofhorse.com/article...arizona-series
    The Evil Chem Prof

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    And not even the whole week! Just the five day work week. Super, super, super crazy.

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    • #3
      Interesting. Last summer, Hankin was bigly pushing for a revitalization of the LAEC via a public/private partnership.

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      • #4
        Went to the Arizona show, two different weeks, to watch this winter. Amazing setting but very few entries - don't think the Arizona shows could have been profitable.

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        • #5
          Me thinks with the opening of WEC south, HITS needed the money to renovate their Ocala facility to at least try to keep some business in the winter.
          Talking to some people is like folding a fitted sheet.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by AffirmedHope View Post
            Me thinks with the opening of WEC south, HITS needed the money to renovate their Ocala facility to at least try to keep some business in the winter.
            I mean, yes, he says that in an article about the sale. No speculation needed, this is about freeing up and raising cash to retrofit ocala.
            Let me apologize in advance.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by EverElite View Post
              Interesting. Last summer, Hankin was bigly pushing for a revitalization of the LAEC via a public/private partnership.
              bigly. well-played!
              The armchair saddler
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              • #8
                Originally posted by ladyj79 View Post

                I mean, yes, he says that in an article about the sale. No speculation needed, this is about freeing up and raising cash to retrofit ocala.
                He has a lot of catching up to do. WEC is going to be amazing.

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                • #9
                  Do you guys think this is some kind of early rat off a sinking ship of the big, destination horse show?
                  The armchair saddler
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                  • #10
                    Having more different people involved in running these big shows is probably good in the long term, rather than it being concentrated in one person's vision.
                    If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mvp View Post
                      Do you guys think this is some kind of early rat off a sinking ship of the big, destination horse show?
                      No. They seem to be pretty entrenched. Going somewhere warm in winter to show is a big part of the h/j experience at the AA+ level. I don't know if the winter migration numbers are big enough in the western part of the US to adequately support circuits in both SoCal and AZ; I would expect the SoCal circuit to continue to be the primary one.

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                      • #12
                        I definitely think the CA destination show is not a sinking ship and Ocala does need help.

                        If done well I think Ocala can be successful even with wec there. I know I'm looking at property

                        Europe manages to do just fine with a bunch of decent csi venues super close together in Holland and belgium.

                        This is of course predicated on them actually doing a good job in ocala, which would be something new for that outfit
                        Let me apologize in advance.

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                          Originally posted by EverElite View Post
                          Interesting. Last summer, Hankin was bigly pushing for a revitalization of the LAEC via a public/private partnership.
                          Two and a half years ago he was saying he wanted to revitalize the L.A horse show scene.
                          https://www.theplaidhorse.com/2017/1...niably-all-in/
                          The Evil Chem Prof

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                          • #14
                            Does this include the Thermal facility? And since the HITS AZ shows are at the Pima County fairgrounds, does the "sale" just comprise the dates for those shows?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pds View Post

                              He has a lot of catching up to do. WEC is going to be amazing.
                              Agreed. To me, it makes more economic sense to sell HITS Ocala and concentrate on areas with less competition.
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                              • #16
                                HITS AZ has been a joke for awhile now. He just kept it going to keep anyone else competing against Thermal. It would be great if someone would come in and make the AZ shows competitive again

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by AffirmedHope View Post
                                  Me thinks with the opening of WEC south, HITS needed the money to renovate their Ocala facility to at least try to keep some business in the winter.
                                  Have you ever heard of the mileage rule?? The shows at the two venues will not run concurrently. HITS Ocala will be just fine due to those golden dates.

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                                  • #18
                                    My opinion on Ocala is that Wec will be to hits as the ridge is to WEF. Plenty of opportunity to have unrated classes that throw out money and special status to hold an international derby. I also think the unrated shows work well for people bringing along young horses. I myself would love to get babies out unrated/less expensive if the venue is good. But if I want to qualify for indoors or devon I need rated shows. There is a big market for WEC during non hits dates as well. So many people are choosing to stay in Ocala year round. Fox Lea Farm in Venice is likely to suffer from that. Especially because WEC is air conditioning the indoors and barns.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by snaffle635 View Post

                                      Agreed. To me, it makes more economic sense to sell HITS Ocala and concentrate on areas with less competition.
                                      Absolutely agree with this. There is no way HITS Ocala can go toe-to-toe with WEC. They need a different strategy.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by APirateLooksAtForty View Post

                                        Have you ever heard of the mileage rule?? The shows at the two venues will not run concurrently. HITS Ocala will be just fine due to those golden dates.
                                        The mileage rule doesn't mean WEC is not competition. Sure, people won't have to pick which one to show at in the same week, but if people have to choose between spending $5k on one show either one week at HITS or the next week at WEC (assuming they have completely open availability for either week) they're probably going to pick the show where they get the most bang for their buck. As it stands, without improvements to the HITS grounds, that will be WEC.
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