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Do USEF/USHJA members realize Safe Sport is a LAW enacted by US Congress?

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  • Do USEF/USHJA members realize Safe Sport is a LAW enacted by US Congress?

    For those who are claiming they are giving up their memberships in USEF/USHJA because George Morris (or Robert Gage...or whoever your favorite abuser was) was banned due to Safe Sport realize that it is a law? Passed by Congress, both House and Senate.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...-bill/534/text
    PROTECTING YOUNG VICTIMS FROM SEXUAL ABUSE AND SAFE SPORT AUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2017 (Law titles are apparently in all caps!) And it covers governing bodies.
    (11) the terms `amateur athlete', `amateur athletic competition', `amateur sports organization', `international amateur athletic competition', and `national governing body' have the meanings given the terms in section 220501(b) of title 36, United States Code And here is section 220501(b) of title 36 of the USC so the definitions clear.

    (a)Short Title.—
    This chapter may be cited as the “Ted Stevens Olympic and Amateur Sports Act”.
    (b)Definitions.—For purposes of this chapter—
    (1)
    amateur athlete” means an athlete who meets the eligibility standards established by the national governing body or paralympic sports organization for the sport in which the athlete competes.
    (2)
    amateur athletic competition” means a contest, game, meet, match, tournament, regatta, or other event in which amateur athletes compete.
    (3)
    amateur sports organization” means a not-for-profit corporation, association, or other group organized in the United States that sponsors or arranges an amateur athletic competition.
    (4)
    Center” means the United States Center for Safe Sport designated under section 220541.
    (5)
    child abuse” has the meaning given the term in section 212 of the Victims of Child Abuse Act of 1990 (34 U.S.C. 20302).
    (6)
    “corporation” means the United States Olympic Committee.
    (7)
    international amateur athletic competition” means an amateur athletic competition between one or more athletes representing the United States, individually or as a team, and one or more athletes representing a foreign country.
    (8)
    national governing body” means an amateur sports organization that is recognized by the corporation under section 220521 of this title.
    (9)
    paralympic sports organization” means an amateur sports organization which is recognized by the corporation under section 220521 of this title.
    (10)
    sanction” means a certificate of approval issued by a national governing body.

    For all of the flaws in the governing bodies for sports, SafeSport is not originating from the individual sport governing bodies.

    And, for the record, while I think there are some implementation wrinkles, I support the concept behind Safe Sport and don't mind it so much.

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    Also, provisions of SafeSport in terms of the training and policies to avoid abuse of minors are applicable to any interstate athletic organization that includes participation of minors, regardless of NGB affiliation.

    For organizations that don't cross state lines, the law doesn't apply per se, but insurance companies are quickly adopting this as a standard they want their insureds to follow.
    If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket

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    • #3
      It is like finally having a human resources division in the equestrian world. Shame that we now have to live up to EEOC and other standards that the real world must live up to.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RAyers View Post
        It is like finally having a human resources division in the equestrian world. Shame that we now have to live up to EEOC and other standards that the real world must live up to.
        That is kind of true. It may really help to professionalize the equestrian world.

        I know when my daughter started riding, there were many times when I was shocked by the lack of professionalism shown by some "professionals". I don't mean sexual abuse-- I mean just basics like communication skills, integrity, and treatment of barn staff. It is a world that definitely comes with some surprises if you are new to it and accustomed to corporate workplaces.

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        • #5
          Thank you. It seems the whole “Safesport required by law” part flew over everyone’s head. I don’t think people realize the government has far bigger issues than people creating Facebook groups and petitions to change/ban Safesport.

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          • #6
            I mean, I'm gonna say the answer is largely "no" to the question posited by the title. But on the other hand, a lot of people never let something as inconvenient as fact stand in the way of good old manufactured outrage sooo.

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            • #7
              There are people who think that a lifetime ban is imposed based on one anonymous complaint, without any investigation whatsoever.
              The Evil Chem Prof

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              • #8
                I understand the exasperation you must be feeling, in starting this new thread. It is really demoralising that such a huge chunk of the population is so uneducated about/immune to the codes and procedures that people take for granted in other walks of life.
                Last edited by Happyhack; Aug. 10, 2019, 04:14 AM. Reason: typo

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                • #9
                  And one of those codes - pedophilia. It’s outrageous and more evident than ever why Safe Sport is needed. Since when does legality = where the ethical standards stop? A chunk of equestrian professionals need to find a new profession away from children it seems. It’s really horrifying...Safe Sport is about protecting the Athletes. Coaches should be on board with this. I see complaints that USEF is offering counseling now?? What an embarrassment many equestrian professionals have made of themselves. But I guess that’s where we are at as a society right now, victim blaming while simultaneously saying you didn’t speak up so you have no right to be protected from sexual abuse?! Sickening...and these professionals and nearly 7k in that FB group, how many demons do they have in their closet...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SaddleFitterVA View Post
                    For those who are claiming they are giving up their memberships in USEF/USHJA because George Morris (or Robert Gage...or whoever your favorite abuser was) was banned due to Safe Sport realize that it is a law? Passed by Congress, both House and Senate.

                    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...-bill/534/text
                    PROTECTING YOUNG VICTIMS FROM SEXUAL ABUSE AND SAFE SPORT AUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2017 (Law titles are apparently in all caps!) And it covers governing bodies.
                    (11) the terms `amateur athlete', `amateur athletic competition', `amateur sports organization', `international amateur athletic competition', and `national governing body' have the meanings given the terms in section 220501(b) of title 36, United States Code And here is section 220501(b) of title 36 of the USC so the definitions clear.

                    (a)Short Title.—
                    This chapter may be cited as the “Ted Stevens Olympic and Amateur Sports Act”.
                    (b)Definitions.—For purposes of this chapter—
                    (1)
                    amateur athlete” means an athlete who meets the eligibility standards established by the national governing body or paralympic sports organization for the sport in which the athlete competes.
                    (2)
                    amateur athletic competition” means a contest, game, meet, match, tournament, regatta, or other event in which amateur athletes compete.
                    (3)
                    amateur sports organization” means a not-for-profit corporation, association, or other group organized in the United States that sponsors or arranges an amateur athletic competition.
                    (4)
                    Center” means the United States Center for Safe Sport designated under section 220541.
                    (5)
                    child abuse” has the meaning given the term in section 212 of the Victims of Child Abuse Act of 1990 (34 U.S.C. 20302).
                    (6)
                    “corporation” means the United States Olympic Committee.
                    (7)
                    international amateur athletic competition” means an amateur athletic competition between one or more athletes representing the United States, individually or as a team, and one or more athletes representing a foreign country.
                    (8)
                    national governing body” means an amateur sports organization that is recognized by the corporation under section 220521 of this title.
                    (9)
                    paralympic sports organization” means an amateur sports organization which is recognized by the corporation under section 220521 of this title.
                    (10)
                    sanction” means a certificate of approval issued by a national governing body.

                    For all of the flaws in the governing bodies for sports, SafeSport is not originating from the individual sport governing bodies.

                    And, for the record, while I think there are some implementation wrinkles, I support the concept behind Safe Sport and don't mind it so much.
                    Many of them don’t seem to understand anything about it at all, given the number of comments I’m still seeing online about “guilty until proven innocent,” “witch hunt,” etc.

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                    • #11
                      What amuses me is the blame some place on Rep. Nancy Pelosi or Sen. Diane Feinstein.

                      Any law passed in 2017 had to have had the votes of the Republican majorities in the House and Senate, as well as the signature of the president.
                      A helmet saved my life.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RAyers View Post
                        It is like finally having a human resources division in the equestrian world. Shame that we now have to live up to EEOC and other standards that the real world must live up to.
                        Ah, the butt-hurt felt by an industry finally coming under the heavy heel regulation for the first time. It's an old story. Too bad no one appreciates that internal regulation is better-tolerated than letting the place become such a Wild West that people outside of it notice and come in to do the job.
                        The armchair saddler
                        Politically Pro-Cat

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by goodmorning View Post
                          And one of those codes - pedophilia. It’s outrageous and more evident than ever why Safe Sport is needed. Since when does legality = where the ethical standards stop? A chunk of equestrian professionals need to find a new profession away from children it seems. It’s really horrifying...Safe Sport is about protecting the Athletes. Coaches should be on board with this. I see complaints that USEF is offering counseling now?? What an embarrassment many equestrian professionals have made of themselves. But I guess that’s where we are at as a society right now, victim blaming while simultaneously saying you didn’t speak up so you have no right to be protected from sexual abuse?! Sickening...and these professionals and nearly 7k in that FB group, how many demons do they have in their closet...
                          Iknow,right?

                          I mean, sure, you don't want to have to do the ol' office grind and deal with fussy rules emanating from the HR office for problems that you don't recognize as problems. But, yanno, "go big or go home." Don't start with regulating credentials (like just about any profession) or sales transactions (like real estate)... no, let's start with "You guys need to cut out the pedophilia."

                          Yikes.
                          The armchair saddler
                          Politically Pro-Cat

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RAyers View Post
                            It is like finally having a human resources division in the equestrian world. Shame that we now have to live up to EEOC and other standards that the real world must live up to.
                            In the beginning I didn’t like safe sport (mostly cause it annoyed the heck out of me, having to take the time to go do it, and having already done similar in corporate jobs and when teaching) but now in hindsight I’m so happy it’s been implemented.

                            The recent events with GM and MB, while tragic, are showing the horse public’s desperate need to be regulated in this country. An HR like department is at least something that can help create professionalism in an industry that is rampant with unprofessional conduct.

                            Not to say the horse world will quietly capitulate with these new standards but they are necessary all the same. Wait until OSHA comes on board... hahaha then I won’t be the bad guy for saying flip flops are not safe barn shoes 🤦🏻*♀️
                            http://www.windsweptfarmllc.com

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                            • #15
                              To answer your question: some of us do understand that it is a law. Sadly too many do not, or they just don't care.
                              kenyagirl

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                              • #16
                                You can probably add many USEF/USDF members to those who do not understand that this is the law.
                                "She is not fragile like a flower. She is fragile like a bomb."

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by goodmorning View Post
                                  Sickening...and these professionals and nearly 7k in that FB group, how many demons do they have in their closet...
                                  As I pointed out on a previous thread, some of the people in that Facebook group joined it just to observe and note what is said by others. That category includes some of the posters on this BB.

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                                  • #18
                                    All those people crying about GM and it was fifty years ago, were they upset about Catholic priests facing the music for sexually assaulting young boys 30, 40, 50 years ago?
                                    Leap, and the net will appear

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by RAyers View Post
                                      It is like finally having a human resources division in the equestrian world. Shame that we now have to live up to EEOC and other standards that the real world must live up to.
                                      Yes!!!! What triggered this post was my reading Bernie Traurig's grand statement on Facebook copying his letter to USEF/USHJA that he wants his membership cancelled. I don't know him, I haven't ridden with him, but seriously, I'd expect a professional at his level to have a basic understanding of the sport's governing bodies.

                                      Assuming this is him: 5741 TRAURIG, BERNIE H Current: INACTIVE - Amateur , he obviously isn't competing, since he isn't an amateur, given his teaching.

                                      Of course this led me to look up George H Morris and his USEF number is 312. And he's been a life member since 1973..he got his money's worth.


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                                      • #20
                                        I do now.

                                        The only lesson I'll ever get from George Morris.....
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