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    Originally posted by INoMrEd View Post

    Jealoushe, I hope you are correct!
    Following this like everyone else. Not surprised. What does surprise me are the women who support GM with gusto...saying, “he’s never been inappropriate for the years I/My daughter/my friend rode with him!” Well...duh, he doesn’t like girls!!!
    I think we can all write the list of victims (protégés) or those who narrowly escaped from GM to trainers that “dated” their teenage clients.
    I feel guilty for sitting by seeing this over the years and no one saying boo about it.
    As far as victims and accusers stepping forward...look at how badly AK was treated (though supported as well thankfully) when she told her horrifying story.

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      What does that mean “he’s taking others down with him”? Did I miss that?

      So- to clarify: if GM is banned because of sexual relations with a minor, he’s exposing others guilty of it? And he thinks this is a way to prove WHAT about himself and shouldn’t he be doing it anyway? If you see something say something?
      Come to the dark side, we have cookies

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        Originally posted by Pennywell Bay View Post
        What does that mean “he’s taking others down with him”? Did I miss that?

        So- to clarify: if GM is banned because of sexual relations with a minor, he’s exposing others guilty of it? And he thinks this is a way to prove WHAT about himself and shouldn’t he be doing it anyway? If you see something say something?
        When RG was banned, he made a statement saying if they come after him he is taking everyone down with him....obviously I am paraphrashing I can't recall the exact wording.

        So basically admitting he knows who else was just as guilty as he is.

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          Must be lack of sleep but for some reason I'm getting a little emotional about all of this. It appears the good folks at SafeSport are going to have to brace themselves hard for some exceptionally turbulent times ahead.

          May they continue to hold their ground with steely resolve and a figurative viking shield wall is all I can say.

          And I hope they do realize how much support they have in the equine world.
          One touch of nature makes the whole world kin.
          William Shakespeare

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            Originally posted by Jealoushe View Post

            When RG was banned, he made a statement saying if they come after him he is taking everyone down with him....obviously I am paraphrashing I can't recall the exact wording.

            So basically admitting he knows who else was just as guilty as he is.
            Seems to me that this statement is an admission of his own guilt
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              Originally posted by sdlbredfan View Post

              Who the heck is that, and why should anyone care???
              Did you read her post? I would have linked it, but COTH seems to block each and every single post I make with a link in it. This has been going on for over a month. So someone else later kindly linked to her FB post.

              she indicates the investigation into GM has been ongoing for over a year, and confirms he has threatened to “take others down with him” and the whole situation has been unraveling for some time. Her post was pretty decent in my opinion. Sad for sure. Good for her for being one of a rather limited number of professionals to speak up in the hunter jumper community and not tow the pathetic “Well... Safe Sport has problems and I just don’t know” line...

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                Go ahead and call me Captain Obvious - the can of ugly, disgusting worms has been opened by SafeSport and there won't be any putting the lid on it. I think that many of our so called "great equestrians" are dreading the findings. While others may be shocked at the names that come out, many will amazingly still stand by them. It's not going to be pretty!
                Libby

                There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". - Dave Barry

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                  No idea who is being vocal in support other then what I read on here and don’t know most named. Recognize family name but not that particular person. Wondering, have many of his very well known former clients, International riders he coached over the decades and former business partners joined the vocal and active support group?
                  When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

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                    I am sure this has been mentioned....

                    Soresi's date of suspension was the same date as GM's ban. Looks like Soresi, who plead guilty to child pornography and is on the sex offenders list for that, was only suspended!! Seems like he should be lifetime banned too right? And he is very likely the source/victim, especially when you take the post from Dover into account. GM may still be guilty, but only a suspension for child pornography? Makes me question the SS process a bit....

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                      Originally posted by 2centsworth View Post
                      I am sure this has been mentioned....

                      Soresi's date of suspension was the same date as GM's ban. Looks like Soresi, who plead guilty to child pornography and is on the sex offenders list for that, was only suspended!! Seems like he should be lifetime banned too right? And he is very likely the source/victim, especially when you take the post from Dover into account. GM may still be guilty, but only a suspension for child pornography? Makes me question the SS process a bit....
                      the party line.


                      If it weren't so tragic it would be downright laughable
                      Let me apologize in advance.

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                        Originally posted by Happyhack View Post

                        CH of The Horse magazine is Chris Hector, the long-time editor.
                        Whoops I meant to say Chris, I was reading Carl Hester above that

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                          Originally posted by Virginia Horse Mom View Post

                          Did you read her post? I would have linked it, but COTH seems to block each and every single post I make with a link in it. This has been going on for over a month. So someone else later kindly linked to her FB post.

                          she indicates the investigation into GM has been ongoing for over a year, and confirms he has threatened to “take others down with him” and the whole situation has been unraveling for some time. Her post was pretty decent in my opinion. Sad for sure. Good for her for being one of a rather limited number of professionals to speak up in the hunter jumper community and not tow the pathetic “Well... Safe Sport has problems and I just don’t know” line...
                          It was linked upthread somewhere:
                          https://www.facebook.com/1592221552/...8084458014948/
                          And it is a public post, so I think is OK to share here.

                          I hope she has someone copyedit it a bit and publishes it as an OpEd piece. It's quite good, and thoughtfully written.
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                            Originally posted by Virginia Horse Mom View Post

                            Did you read her post? I would have linked it, but COTH seems to block each and every single post I make with a link in it. This has been going on for over a month. So someone else later kindly linked to her FB post.

                            she indicates the investigation into GM has been ongoing for over a year, and confirms he has threatened to “take others down with him” and the whole situation has been unraveling for some time. Her post was pretty decent in my opinion. Sad for sure. Good for her for being one of a rather limited number of professionals to speak up in the hunter jumper community and not tow the pathetic “Well... Safe Sport has problems and I just don’t know” line...
                            She's a well-respected pro & has been around for awhile. I thought it was an excellent post, & told her so.

                            Her former in-laws were directly threatened with harm by GHM.

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                              Originally posted by RainWeasley View Post

                              Whoops I meant to say Chris, I was reading Carl Hester above that
                              I had to double take when you posted because I thought you wrote Carl Hester at first and I was going to cryyyyyyyyyy lol

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                                Originally posted by ladyj79 View Post

                                the party line.


                                If it weren't so tragic it would be downright laughable
                                Its the party line that only getting a suspension for child porn seems light? I have kids, I'd like SS to permanently ban anyone that has plead guilty to child porn, and is on the sex offender list. It's not a rumor, or an accusation when the person pleads guilty, at that point BANNED FOR LIFE! As far as GM he may be guilty too, but as of today he has not plead guilty in a court of law. And he is banned.... does that make sense?

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                                  George Morris didn't love his horses. Please, let's be clear on this. George caused one horse's death by illegal pole-ing in a public space. Horses were his income, they were his mounts or students' mounts for glory.

                                  People who abuse humans openly in public often abuse animals even more easily in private. Animals who will never speak out. If that is what he finds acceptable in public, what was he doing in private?

                                  Blugal

                                  You never know what kind of obsessive compulsive crazy person you are until another person imitates your behaviour at a three-day. --Gry2Yng

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                                    Originally posted by findeight View Post
                                    No idea who is being vocal in support other then what I read on here and don’t know most named. Recognize family name but not that particular person. Wondering, have many of his very well known former clients, International riders he coached over the decades and former business partners joined the vocal and active support group?
                                    I joined the group. As stated: 1. We need to hear out allegations. 2. I hoped he could prove allegations unfounded (I am not sure how that happens). I am shocked, truly shocked at some of the people. Now- some may be silent observers, such as I, awaiting the appeal. But some of the people commenting has me rethinking some of my acquaintances.
                                    Come to the dark side, we have cookies

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                                      I am so, so glad that it was not Carl Hester!

                                      I think we should use peoples' entire names, not just initials, unless the person is the main topic of discussion, such as GHM. It would avoid a lot of confusion.

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                                        Originally posted by Pennywell Bay View Post

                                        I joined the group. As stated: 1. We need to hear out allegations. 2. I hoped he could prove allegations unfounded (I am not sure how that happens). I am shocked, truly shocked at some of the people. Now- some may be silent observers, such as I, awaiting the appeal. But some of the people commenting has me rethinking some of my acquaintances.
                                        I will not join the group, but I would love to have someone pm me a list of his most heinous supporters, so that I can avoid them.

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                                          Originally posted by 2centsworth View Post
                                          I am sure this has been mentioned....

                                          Soresi's date of suspension was the same date as GM's ban. Looks like Soresi, who plead guilty to child pornography and is on the sex offenders list for that, was only suspended!! Seems like he should be lifetime banned too right? And he is very likely the source/victim, especially when you take the post from Dover into account. GM may still be guilty, but only a suspension for child pornography? Makes me question the SS process a bit....
                                          There are a number of mitigating factors that can go into determining the sanctions, apparently, including date of trangression(s), repeat offences, admittance of guilt, current risk to minors. It may well be that their investigations determined that one of them was a one-time offender who presents a low risk now, and that one of them was a repeat offender who may still pose a risk.

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