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  • #41
    Originally posted by skydy View Post
    Admittedly we don't know what list he has, hopefully it isn't USEF.
    My guess is Phelps Sports / Mason Phelps. George certainly doesn’t email and that statement was most definitely done by a PR firm.

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    • #42
      It can't be USEF email list because I am a current member and didn't get it.
      McDowell Racing Stables

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      • #43
        Originally posted by staceymc View Post

        My guess is Phelps Sports / Mason Phelps. George certainly doesn’t email and that statement was most definitely done by a PR firm.
        Bingo

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        • #44
          It will be interesting to see how USEF reacts, considering they removed JW's name from awards and honors.

          The George Morris Horsemastership Training Session "designed to identify and develop the next generation of top U.S. Equestrian Team talent through instruction from experts in a variety of aspects of horsemastership." (per USEF), has already been postponed to 2020, as they "allow for a revitalization and refresh of the program."

          GM will not take this lightly; the fight has only just begun.


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          • #45
            Wherever the list came from, it was very inappropriate to give it to someone accused of sexually assaulting a minor.

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            • #46
              Maybe it came from breed memberships? I am up to date in 4-H, VHSA, AQHA, FQHA, ABRA... I get the Quarter Horse Journal. I used to get Horse and Rider... I'm trying to think whatever horse things they could have gotten my e-mail from. Maybe something like Smartpak or Valleyvet - would they sell e-mail lists to people? I did get the e-mail.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by skydy View Post
                Wherever the list came from, it was very inappropriate to give it to someone accused of sexually assaulting a minor.
                Lol. They didn’t “give him an email list”. He hired a PR firm and that is what PR firms do. Try and improve a client’s image or get in front of a crisis by controlling the narrative. So of course the PR firm would have their own previously compiled email list of equine persons to whom said PR firm would email that sort of prepared statement.

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                • #48
                  You know what.... Horse Expos. I bet that's where they come from.

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                  • #49
                    I have to stop reading that Facebook thread. My head is going to explode.

                    And seriously, crazies, you can still give George Morris all your monies.
                    Let me apologize in advance.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by staceymc View Post

                      Lol. They didn’t “give him an email list”. He hired a PR firm and that is what PR firms do. Try and improve a client’s image or get in front of a crisis by controlling the narrative. So of course the PR firm would have their own previously compiled email list of equine persons to whom said PR firm would email that sort of prepared statement.
                      That makes perfect sense. My email would kick it to spam though and I'm sure many other people's would as well, so it won't be as effective as they hope.

                      What a weird thing to do. Doesn't he realize it makes him look desperate?

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                      • #51
                        Originally posted by staceymc View Post

                        Lol. They didn’t “give him an email list”. He hired a PR firm and that is what PR firms do. Try and improve a client’s image or get in front of a crisis by controlling the narrative. So of course the PR firm would have their own previously compiled email list of equine persons to whom said PR firm would email that sort of prepared statement.
                        Unless the PR firm has already been involved with equestrian clients, they would not have access to any email list. They might buy an email list from a publication or organization, but they couldn't compile one on the spur of the moment. Whoever sent the email with his statement knew this was coming; he would have had to have hired the PR firm before this hit the fan.

                        I find it interesting that lifetime suspensions are being handed down for reasons that are not always completely clear to the general public or even people involved in the horse world (criminal convictions aside), yet there are people currently working in the industry who were involved in, and pled guilty to, insurance fraud schemes that killed horses.

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                        • #52
                          Originally posted by Room for a Pony View Post

                          Unless the PR firm has already been involved with equestrian clients, they would not have access to any email list. They might buy an email list from a publication or organization, but they couldn't compile one on the spur of the moment. Whoever sent the email with his statement knew this was coming; he would have had to have hired the PR firm before this hit the fan.

                          I find it interesting that lifetime suspensions are being handed down for reasons that are not always completely clear to the general public or even people involved in the horse world (criminal convictions aside), yet there are people currently working in the industry who were involved in, and pled guilty to, insurance fraud schemes that killed horses.
                          Phelps Media is involved with equestrian clients so there would be no need to buy or compile a list as they already have it. Which might explain why I didn't get it as I opted out of their emails. It probably didn't come from iJump since I do get those.
                          The Evil Chem Prof

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                          • #53
                            Phelps has most everyone's email. They do PR for all the big horse shows. I bet that's where they got the email list (assuming Phelps is the one who sent out the email).
                            ~Veronica
                            "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
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                            • #54
                              The PR firm is Phelps Media and they would most certainly have this list
                              "You can't really debate with someone who has a prescient invisible friend"
                              carolprudm

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                              • #55
                                Originally posted by Laurierace View Post
                                I saw told he could not do clinics with USEF members in attendance. Is that correct?
                                GM would be banned from any USEF sanctioned event a horse show, a clinic, judging...

                                USEF has no jurisdiction over non sanctioned clinics or shows, etc.

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                                • #56
                                  Originally posted by farmpony84 View Post

                                  However, sometimes in situations like this, the victim isn't exactly innocent because being quiet or participating in certain acts may have helped them advance in their career path.
                                  Victim blaming at its best.
                                  "Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can?" Sun Tzu
                                  Semantics

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                                  • #57
                                    Originally posted by farmpony84 View Post
                                    I don't know he's gay. His sexual orientation has nothing to do with his equestrian accomplishments. I have followed him throughout the years and am saddened to see these allegations. I don't want to assume he is guilty nor do I want to assume the victim is lying. I only hope that there is evidence that can be provided to prove these facts and if it is true, then I hope the victim can find closure.

                                    I am always concerned about these types of situations when they involve public figures. The victim may truly be an innocent who was afraid, embarrassed, shocked, or confused. They may have decided with the way things are now that by coming forward - they can loan others the strength to do so as well.

                                    However, sometimes in situations like this, the victim isn't exactly innocent because being quiet or participating in certain acts may have helped them advance in their career path.

                                    Only the victim, the accused, and the man upstairs knows the truth in the situation.

                                    Eitherway, it saddens me.
                                    Wow!!! Yup. You’re part of the problem. Victim isn’t exactly innocent

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                                    • #58
                                      If you read what I said I was actually looking at both sides.

                                      "I don't want to assume he is guilty nor do I want to assume the victim is lying. I only hope that there is evidence that can be provided to prove these facts and if it is true, then I hope the victim can find closure."

                                      "​​​​​​​The victim may truly be an innocent who was afraid, embarrassed, shocked, or confused. They may have decided with the way things are now that by coming forward - they can loan others the strength to do so as well."

                                      You chose to read what you wanted to. You chose to incriminate me without any facts.

                                      I am saddened by these allegations. True or False - I am saddened that it may have happened.

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                                      • #59
                                        vxf111 tried to send you a PM, but thank you.

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                                        • #60
                                          Originally posted by farmpony84 View Post
                                          If you read what I said I was actually looking at both sides.

                                          "I don't want to assume he is guilty nor do I want to assume the victim is lying. I only hope that there is evidence that can be provided to prove these facts and if it is true, then I hope the victim can find closure."

                                          "The victim may truly be an innocent who was afraid, embarrassed, shocked, or confused. They may have decided with the way things are now that by coming forward - they can loan others the strength to do so as well."

                                          You chose to read what you wanted to. You chose to incriminate me without any facts.

                                          I am saddened by these allegations. True or False - I am saddened that it may have happened.
                                          Um no it’s called being around a long time and waiting for the shoe to drop. Safe Sport doesn’t give lifetime bans all Willy Nilly like.

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