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  • Of course we (those of us who don't know him personally) don't really know if he has appealed. He said he would, but that doesn't mean he has.

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    • I think the assumption is based on the fact that you have to file a intent to appeal within 5 days of the original decision. If an accused does not file an intent to appeal, the decision then becomes "final". Therefor, one might assume an appeal has been filed, because the decision isn't listed as "final". I see no reason they would extend different rules just for GM.

      But, all of this is just speculation and assumption.
      ~~ How do you catch a loose horse? Make a noise like a carrot! - British Cavalry joke ~~

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      • That makes sense. I'm sure you're right. He must have appealed or it wouldn't still be "pending appeal".

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        • Originally posted by eeyore886 View Post
          Sorry if this has already been said, but as much as I believe perpetrators should be brought to justice, I just don't see how you can convict someone with no evidence other than their word. I don't care how many people said it. It was from 40 some years ago? There is a reason there are statutes of limitations on many crimes. This is "he said-she said" and that should never be the standard to convict someone and ruin their life. Didn't we just see that same thing tried on Judge Kavanaugh? Calumny is a sin. And it should be a crime itself to accuse someone of something which cannot be proven.
          Yes, let's throw all the survivors of sexual abuse in prison because their perpetrator wasn't stupid enough to leave clear physical evidence. Let's throw the survivors of these sick pedophiles in prison because they should have the emotional strength as children to speak out against adults in what should be trusted positions of authority, or family friends, or family members. While we're at it, let's just not remove anyone from their esteemed positions unless they're actually convicted of a crime. Let the pedophile teachers, priests, coaches, etc just keep their jobs, because their lives and reputations and ability to make money is far more important than protecting anyone from them just based on several people repeating the same experiences with them.

          I don't have enough palms for my face right now.

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          • I believe the hearing is next week. Probably why we're seeing a resurgence of activity from the ISWG crowd.
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            • Originally posted by eeyore886 View Post
              Sorry if this has already been said, but as much as I believe perpetrators should be brought to justice, I just don't see how you can convict someone with no evidence other than their word. I don't care how many people said it. It was from 40 some years ago? There is a reason there are statutes of limitations on many crimes. This is "he said-she said" and that should never be the standard to convict someone and ruin their life. Didn't we just see that same thing tried on Judge Kavanaugh? Calumny is a sin. And it should be a crime itself to accuse someone of something which cannot be proven.
              How do you know it was

              1.Only someone's word?
              2. From 40 years ago?

              And you do know that if someone files a false SS report, they are subject to sanctions as well, right?
              *****
              You will not rise to the occasion, you will default to your level of training.

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              • I always think it's interesting that the people that defend GM and any others assume that, because they haven't heard what evidence there might be, there must not actually be any evidence.

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                • Originally posted by RainWeasley View Post
                  I always think it's interesting that the people that defend GM and any others assume that, because they haven't heard what evidence there might be, there must not actually be any evidence.
                  Because when people like Katie Prudent say it isnt true because she didn't personally witness George having sex with children and a Robert Dover says it isn't true because hot hubby says George didn't proposition hot hubby in his 20s, then people add one and one together and come to a conclusion. On an unrelated topic. And then think they're on the trolley.

                  And then share their wisdom with the rest of us dummies.
                  Let me apologize in advance.

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                  • More information, even though it really doesn’t actually have any new informatio. https://www.chronofhorse.com/article...ld-in-new-york

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                    • Originally posted by ClerkofCourts View Post
                      More information, even though it really doesn’t actually have any new informatio. https://www.chronofhorse.com/article...ld-in-new-york
                      Interesting. Still listed permanently banned and ten days from the arbitration. Morris declines to make a comment. My interpretation is A) decision has not been reached yet or B) it has been decided against Morris.

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                      • The last sentence from the Chronicle article is interesting, since it specifies that he may not teach USEF members. In the past, suspensions have usually involved not being allowed on the grounds of a USEF horse show. Does anyone know if the phrasing is different because it is a safe sport issue?

                        From the Chronicle article:

                        “Under the lifetime ban, which is reciprocated by the Fédération Equestre Internationale, Morris is not able to coach international teams for the United States, or any other countries. He is also banned from coaching or instructing USEF members.”

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                        • Originally posted by MHM View Post
                          The last sentence from the Chronicle article is interesting, since it specifies that he may not teach USEF members. In the past, suspensions have usually involved not being allowed on the grounds of a USEF horse show. Does anyone know if the phrasing is different because it is a safe sport issue?

                          From the Chronicle article:

                          “Under the lifetime ban, which is reciprocated by the Fédération Equestre Internationale, Morris is not able to coach international teams for the United States, or any other countries. He is also banned from coaching or instructing USEF members.”
                          That’s a Safesport policy
                          Talking to some people is like folding a fitted sheet.

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                          • What AffirmedHope said... the "aiding and abetting" clause specifically.

                            But it shouldn't be an issue with all those droves of people who said they were leaving USEF over Safesport.
                            Don't fall for a girl who fell for a horse just to be number two in her world... ~EFO

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                            • Originally posted by AffirmedHope View Post

                              That’s a Safesport policy
                              He's been coaching Brian Cournane all summer.

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                              • Originally posted by AffirmedHope View Post

                                That’s a Safesport policy
                                Thanks.

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                                • Originally posted by neigh View Post

                                  He's been coaching Brian Cournane all summer.
                                  His suspension didn’t start until August.

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                                  • Originally posted by AffirmedHope View Post

                                    That’s a Safesport policy
                                    How on earth is that enforceable? Are they going to ban any USEF member that gets a lesson from him? That seems insane to me.

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                                    • Originally posted by wannabedvm View Post

                                      How on earth is that enforceable? Are they going to ban any USEF member that gets a lesson from him? That seems insane to me.
                                      I think it's insane to associate with a Pedarast, which is probably what this is going to have to rely on. of course many will still prostrate themselves before the feet of George
                                      Let me apologize in advance.

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                                      • Originally posted by wannabedvm View Post

                                        How on earth is that enforceable? Are they going to ban any USEF member that gets a lesson from him? That seems insane to me.
                                        The effectiveness of rules (and laws for that matter) is dependent upon people of integrity and honesty who will abide by them.
                                        Some people possess these qualities and others do not.

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                                        • Originally posted by ladyj79 View Post

                                          I think it's insane to associate with a Pedarast, which is probably what this is going to have to rely on. of course many will still prostrate themselves before the feet of George
                                          Yes, it is. But it’s also stupid to punish USEF members who take lessons with him, for several reasons: 1) In some circumstances that could come down to punishing victims. 2) If the only connection between someone taking a lesson with George and USEF is that the person is a USEF member...I just think that’s overstepping. By that logic, USEF could ban a USEF member for doing anything USEF doesn’t like. Punishing (I’m assuming banning) someone for taking lessons with a person not associated with USEF seems like something they have no business doing. Let the angry masses deal with people who still support these people.

                                          Don’t get me wrong; I understand why they want to have rule—it just doesn’t seem like the best way to effectuate their goals.

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