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    Originally posted by ladyj79 View Post
    I mean, he seemed genuinely honest by saying his accuser was lying. He was either found or pleaded guilty. I don't know that that dude, the convicted sex offender who only admits to breaking his professional code of ethics, is super reliable.

    admitting to small indiscretions to hide the larger ones is like perp 101.

    And being charming enough so all the neighbours believe he's just an unlucky guy and not the sex offender he actually is is literally what everyone says about so so so many serial rapists and or murderers.
    LOL like I said, I know all of you are going to accuse me of being a naive idiot, and I am really regretting providing an example of someone who could be placed on the sex offender registry without having sexually violated a minor in any way. The dude seemed genuine and believable, none of us had any way to remove him from the neighborhood even if he told us that he raped the crap out of thousands of toddlers, and he didn't rape anyone on our street, minor or not, for the rest of the time that I lived there, so 25 years later I stand by my original gut instinct after speaking with him. Sure, it's possible that the day after I moved out of that house, he went on a child molestation spree that encompassed the entire neighborhood and I was lucky that I missed it, but I'm ok believing that it just never happened because he was a guy who made a stupid mistake that cost him a whole lot more than he bargained for.

    Good people really do sometimes make stupid mistakes that cost them a whole lot more than they ever bargained for. My brother let a friend of his who didn't have a driver's license drive his car one time when they were teenagers and the friend drove my brother's car into a tree. My brother died that night. How many of you want to tell me that my brother was stupid? He wasn't stupid; he was a good person who made a single bad decision and it sadly cost him his life.

    My former neighbor did not give anyone on our street any reason to think that he was anything but a good person who made a bad decision with respect to a personal relationship that went bad and cost him a lot. And after he explained his situation to everyone who accepted his invitation to his house, he did not have any kind of unwanted physical or sexual contact with anyone in the neighborhood, minor or adult.

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      Ted Bundy started UW cares, that was about helping coeds get home safely on campus.

      He was described widely as charming and charismatic.

      He was so charming he was left alone in a room in the court house where he was awaiting varies trials and extradition for multiple murders. he escaped not once but twice.

      Sometimes monsters seem very genial.
      Let me apologize in advance.

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        letting a friend without a license drive is a mistake, raping someone is not a mistake.
        Let me apologize in advance.

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          Originally posted by ynl063w View Post

          LOL like I said, I know all of you are going to accuse me of being a naive idiot, and I am really regretting providing an example of someone who could be placed on the sex offender registry without having sexually violated a minor in any way. The dude seemed genuine and believable, none of us had any way to remove him from the neighborhood even if he told us that he raped the crap out of thousands of toddlers, and he didn't rape anyone on our street, minor or not, for the rest of the time that I lived there, so 25 years later I stand by my original gut instinct after speaking with him. Sure, it's possible that the day after I moved out of that house, he went on a child molestation spree that encompassed the entire neighborhood and I was lucky that I missed it, but I'm ok believing that it just never happened because he was a guy who made a stupid mistake that cost him a whole lot more than he bargained for.

          Good people really do sometimes make stupid mistakes that cost them a whole lot more than they ever bargained for. My brother let a friend of his who didn't have a driver's license drive his car one time when they were teenagers and the friend drove my brother's car into a tree. My brother died that night. How many of you want to tell me that my brother was stupid? He wasn't stupid; he was a good person who made a single bad decision and it sadly cost him his life.

          My former neighbor did not give anyone on our street any reason to think that he was anything but a good person who made a bad decision with respect to a personal relationship that went bad and cost him a lot. And after he explained his situation to everyone who accepted his invitation to his house, he did not have any kind of unwanted physical or sexual contact with anyone in the neighborhood, minor or adult.
          Nothing about your experience or your post or your response to anyone else’s post is “LoL”. Frankly this is disturbing. All of it. And if you can’t see that? God help you.

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            Originally posted by ladyj79 View Post
            letting a friend without a license drive is a mistake, raping someone is not a mistake.
            Finding yourself in a relationship with someone who falsely accuses you of rape when the relationship goes south is a mistake.

            Again, I don't know if he raped the woman in question or not, and I really didn't care at the time. I was so incredibly relieved to know that he didn't molest children that the details of his consensual relationship with his adult patient didn't matter to me one bit.

            I don't post here much anymore because you are all so goddamn exhausting in finding every single little tiny way to prove that someone is wrong about what is posted, and you all need every single tiny little [edit] detail to answer every broad question anyone asks about anything, and it's so incredibly off-putting.

            I provided a real life example of someone who was put on the sexual offender list without involving minors, because someone asked if that was possible. So the answer is yes, that is possible.
            Last edited by Moderator 1; Sep. 24, 2019, 07:18 AM. Reason: profanity

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              blindly believing registered sex offenders is probably a conversation stopper for me. It's super hip in the I stand with pedophiles page though, but I'm done with this exchange.
              Let me apologize in advance.

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                Originally posted by erinmeri View Post

                Nothing about your experience or your post or your response to anyone else’s post is “LoL”. Frankly this is disturbing. All of it. And if you can’t see that? God help you.
                Whoa Nelly!

                Someone a number of pages back insisted that I "lighten up". So I'm going to pay that forward and say, please stop beating up on ynl063w. Yee gads! Lighten up, for crying out loud.
                ~~ How do you catch a loose horse? Make a noise like a carrot! - British Cavalry joke ~~

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                  Originally posted by 4LeafCloverFarm View Post

                  Whoa Nelly!

                  Someone a number of pages back insisted that I "lighten up". So I'm going to pay that forward and say, please stop beating up on ynl063w. Yee gads! Lighten up, for crying out loud.
                  I’ll second that. It’s making me wince.

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                    Originally posted by erinmeri View Post

                    Nothing about your experience or your post or your response to anyone else’s post is “LoL”. Frankly this is disturbing. All of it. And if you can’t see that? God help you.
                    That seems a bit harsh (but perhaps you didn't intend it to). Good people tend to trust and give others the benefit of the doubt, and fundamentally that comes from a good heart even if it later seems ill-advised.

                    Today I listened to an NPR podcast about a girl who was sexually assaulted at 13. Every day as she walked to the bus stop, a man who was always loitering around would smile and wave at her, and she waved back. One day, he grabbed her at knifepoint and put his hand in her private area. Decades later, she still blamed herself for being friendly to him.

                    There is something so sad about blaming oneself or others for being kind and trusting.

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                      Originally posted by erinmeri View Post

                      Nothing about your experience or your post or your response to anyone else’s post is “LoL”. Frankly this is disturbing. All of it. And if you can’t see that? God help you.
                      I honestly don't even understand what your post means. What is it about my "experience", "my post", or my "response to anyone else's post" is so "disturbing" to you? I have no idea why God should help me; can you please help me understand what has you so upset about my posts and let me know what I need to do to get God to help me? I feel like I should be scared but I'm not so that might be bad. Should I stay inside if there is a chance of thinderstorms?

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                        Yn1063w, I’m so terribly sorry about the loss of your brother.

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                          Originally posted by ladyj79 View Post
                          blindly believing registered sex offenders is probably a conversation stopper for me. It's super hip in the I stand with pedophiles page though, but I'm done with this exchange.
                          I guess I have to repeat for you the fact that my neighbor was not a pedophile. Perhaps I need to add that I did not befriend the man after he told his story. I never saw him again. I went on with my life, he presumably went on with his life, and today is the first time I have thought about him in more than 20 years based on a single question posted here on this thread. You seem to have a complete misunderstanding of how it works when a convicted sexual offender moves to your street. You have no recourse. You cannot remove the sex offender from your street just because you don't want to live near a registered sex offender. You can go ahead and believe that my neighbor was a threat to our street and all of us were stupid to stay in our houses, living right next to a dangerous sexual predator, but somehow all of us living there at the time decided that he was not a threat, and he never proved us wrong. No one of any age was molested or raped by him, so I think those of us who lived through it at the time made the right decision, and you armchair quarterbacks weighing in 20 years after the fact might be more than a little heavy on the drama, because none of it actually ever happened.

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                            Originally posted by ynl063w View Post

                            Finding yourself in a relationship with someone who falsely accuses you of rape when the relationship goes south is a mistake.

                            Again, I don't know if he raped the woman in question or not, and I really didn't care at the time. I was so incredibly relieved to know that he didn't molest children that the details of his consensual relationship with his adult patient didn't matter to me one bit.

                            I don't post here much anymore because you are all so goddamn exhausting in finding every single little tiny way to prove that someone is wrong about what is posted, and you all need every single tiny little fucking detail to answer every broad question anyone asks about anything, and it's so incredibly off-putting.

                            I provided a real life example of someone who was put on the sexual offender list without involving minors, because someone asked if that was possible. So the answer is yes, that is possible.
                            But he would not have been on the sex offenders registry if it had been simply consensual. Lost his license to practice medicine, yes. For a criminal conviction and the sex offender registry requires a crime - some form of non consensual sex.

                            Most people here don’t view that as a “tiny fucking detail”.

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                              Originally posted by YankeeDuchess View Post

                              But he would not have been on the sex offenders registry if it had been simply consensual. Lost his license to practice medicine, yes. For a criminal conviction and the sex offender registry requires a crime - some form of non consensual sex.

                              Most people here don’t view that as a “tiny fucking detail”.
                              It's become clear to me that all of you here on COTH have a way better understanding of the situation that I described as I lived through it 25 years ago, and I clearly handled it in the worst way possible based on all of your feedback. If only I had all of you to rely on to tell me exactly what to do as soon as I received that notification, I would have clearly made a better decision than I did at the time, and I could have made sure that all my neighbors acted in ways that all of you COTH members deemed appropriate. How could we all have been so stupid?

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                                Originally posted by YankeeDuchess View Post

                                But he would not have been on the sex offenders registry if it had been simply consensual. Lost his license to practice medicine, yes. For a criminal conviction and the sex offender registry requires a crime - some form of non consensual sex.

                                Most people here don’t view that as a “tiny fucking detail”.
                                But how would she have known that? I didn't know the sex offender registry requires an actual criminal conviction--or that misconduct with a patient would not be sufficient-- until you just said it here. It makes sense, but I never thought about it. And I have a law degree and probably 30 years more life experience than that poor poster. Jeez.

                                I guess no one will be accusing you and me of being the same person anymore, lol.

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                                  Originally posted by Horsegirl's Mom View Post

                                  But how would she have known that? I didn't know the sex offender registry requires an actual criminal conviction until you just said it here. It makes sense, but I never thought about it. And I have a law degree and probably 30 years more life experience than that poor poster. Jeez.

                                  I guess no one will be accusing you and me of being the same person anymore, lol.
                                  In California, a person can end up on the sex offender registry for streaking at their High School graduation practice.
                                  What used to be viewed as a stupid prank is now is now considered ‘indecent exposure’, and carries with it a place on “the list” ... maybe not for life, but still, not a great way to start off adulthood.

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                                    A quick Google search shows that prior to 2006 state sex offender lists were not standardized. So it is possible that a state had something about patients and it seems that it is not always criminal convictions. So I wouldn't discount the story as completely wacky. Twenty or so years ago states were just getting all of the details ironed out. And surely someone in the neighborhood followed up on his story. People were nosey and speculative even before the internet made us all sleuths!



                                    Indecent exposure of three times will get you on the IL list. Yep know someone whom that happened to. He had three indecent exposure citations for pubic urination. He was an alcoholic who needed help. I can't remember the time frame and think maybe he fought it.

                                    I doubt one incidence of streaking is enough though.

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                                      Originally posted by ynl063w View Post

                                      It's become clear to me that all of you here on COTH have a way better understanding of the situation that I described as I lived through it 25 years ago, and I clearly handled it in the worst way possible based on all of your feedback. If only I had all of you to rely on to tell me exactly what to do as soon as I received that notification, I would have clearly made a better decision than I did at the time, and I could have made sure that all my neighbors acted in ways that all of you COTH members deemed appropriate. How could we all have been so stupid?
                                      I apologize. Honestly. I am glad that neither you nor your children were harmed.

                                      It is more much, much easier to critique from afar.

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                                        Originally posted by roseymare View Post
                                        A quick Google search shows that prior to 2006 state sex offender lists were not standardized. So it is possible that a state had something about patients and it seems that it is not always criminal convictions. So I wouldn't discount the story as completely wacky. Twenty or so years ago states were just getting all of the details ironed out. And surely someone in the neighborhood followed up on his story. People were nosey and speculative even before the internet made us all sleuths!



                                        Indecent exposure of three times will get you on the IL list. Yep know someone whom that happened to. He had three indecent exposure citations for pubic urination. He was an alcoholic who needed help. I can't remember the time frame and think maybe he fought it.

                                        I doubt one incidence of streaking is enough though.
                                        When I did corrections nursing years ago, there was nurse who began a relationship with an inmate and ended up serving time/on the sex offender registry despite it being consensual. In certain circumstances people are rendered legally unable to consent to sex despite enthusiastic participation, e.g. prison, some types of inpatient mental health settings, etc. She was charged with statutory rape in addition to a few other things that I can't recall at the moment.

                                        So depending on the setting in which the psychiatrist's relationship began, that might be a possible explanation for charges and his appearance on the registry.


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                                          Originally posted by roseymare View Post

                                          Indecent exposure of three times will get you on the IL list. Yep know someone whom that happened to. He had three indecent exposure citations for pubic urination. He was an alcoholic who needed help. I can't remember the time frame and think maybe he fought it.

                                          I doubt one incidence of streaking is enough though.
                                          I worked with a recovering alcoholic that was on the list for public urination. Apparently he was so drunk, he didn't realize he was peeing against a mostly glass office building and everyone in the offices could see him in all his glory. I don't know if he had priors, but that's the one he told people about as a warning to not get blackout drunk.

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