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  • Tryon web site has updated stadium name...now just called Tryon Stadium.

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    • Does it seem odd that this thread isn't listed anywhere on the "Trending Forums"list? With more than 250K views and 2,218 posts, one would think it would be considered trending... or maybe I don't understand correctly how the algorithms select the trending threads?
      ~~ How do you catch a loose horse? Make a noise like a carrot! - British Cavalry joke ~~

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      • Originally posted by 4LeafCloverFarm View Post
        Does it seem odd that this thread isn't listed anywhere on the "Trending Forums"list? With more than 250K views and 2,218 posts, one would think it would be considered trending... or maybe I don't understand correctly how the algorithms select the trending threads?
        It was on the list a couple days ago. Someone on another thread said it also has to do w/ how recently a thread was started, so may have dropped off for that reason?

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        • Another local one. Serah Vogus' current facebook profile picture is her with GM. Here's an article about her...

          https://www.dailyherald.com/submitte...creek-new-life

          Perhaps the Antioch School District, who owns the barn she leases, would like to know of her support of him...

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          • Originally posted by ladyj79 View Post


            Pedophiles aren't political dissidents. It's frankly horrifying that you are using an argument that likens your parents and other political dissidents to a child rapist.
            Just like USEF is not a country with a constitution. It is a sport organization with rules that have now been upheld by SS, only because they were not sufficiently being upheld in the past.

            I assume this person doesn't walk around their daily life wearing show attire, so one must assume that they know that a club can have different requirements than the constitution.. this is a straw man.

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            • Originally posted by Albion View Post
              Why are people obsessing over 'age of consent'? I'm a college professor, I teach people who are adults in all legal definitions, and I could still be hauled up on charges if I slept with an (over 18, obviously adult) student, because I was in a position of authority over them. The issue here isn't entirely "how old was this kid," it's largely about POWER.
              The previous version of the SafeSport Code differentiated "inability to consent" and "inability to refuse." When there's a power imbalance - whether professor-student, coach-athlete, boss-subordinate - often the person without power doesn't have the ability to say NO. "An Inability to Refuse exists when effective Consent cannot be given because of the use of Coercion, Force, Intimidation, or creating or misusing a Power Imbalance."

              The current version rolls this concept into the definition of "consent," but I think it's helpful to think about the ability to consent and the ability to refuse as distinct concepts.

              FWIW, this is the definition of a power imbalance in the current version of the Code. It's very clear that a coach cannot have sexual contact with an athlete.

              K. Power Imbalance
              "A Power Imbalance may exist where, based on the totality of the circumstances, one person has supervisory, evaluative, or other authority over another. Whether there is a Power Imbalance depends on several factors, including but not limited to: the nature and extent of the supervisory, evaluative or other authority over the person; the actual relationship between the parties; the parties’ respective roles; the nature and duration of the relationship; the age of the parties involved; whether there is an aggressor; whether there is a significant disparity in age, size, strength, or mental capacity.

              Once a coach-Athlete relationship is established, a Power Imbalance is presumed to exist throughout the coach-Athlete relationship (regardless of age) and is presumed to continue for Minor Athletes after the coach- Athlete relationship terminates until the Athlete reaches 20 years of age.

              A Power Imbalance may exist, but is not presumed, where an Intimate Relationship existed before the sport relationship (e.g., a relationship between two spouses or life partners that preceded the sport relationship)."










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              • [QUOTE=atl_hunter;n10455646]
                Originally posted by cloudyandcallie View Post

                Thank you - this is what I was trying to understand. Who gets to decide the actual age? SS or the State? Hopefully he will utilize the court system and we will all have some clarity as to whether age of consent is a state's right or a federal one, and what the age should actually be. I'm all for one age, 18, for the entire nation. It would definitely make it clear and consistent. It's not like 18 year olds can vote and you need to be 18 to enlist.
                I think the lowered ages come with caveats like "romeo and juliet" clauses so teenagers can't be convicted of raping other teenagers, or like an 18-20 yr old with a 17 year old (there's usually an age gap stipulation for partners over 18 to my knowledge).

                The sticky point is when you mix in actual or percieved power over the other person. Because "consent" is actually coercion through real/implied threat.

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                • Maybe you should ask her what her position on GM is. His name is magic to many people. Although I don't think I would want my picture with him on a profile pic, you can't just erase his contribution to equestrian sport. He gave a lot of people an excellent equestrian education. She is obviously proud of attending a clinic with him at Gladstone and it's a valid part of her CV.

                  Her mother is having heart surgery - she may have better things to do with her time than changing her profile picture.

                  Disclaimer: I don't know this woman at all, I just checked out Millcreek Farm and her FB page.

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                  • Originally posted by Raine View Post
                    Tryon web site has updated stadium name...now just called Tryon Stadium.
                    Copied this minute from their slide show .

                    The main video screen in the George H. Morris Arena measures 16 feet x 28 feet and is supported by two 16-foot by 9-foot screens which that present live video, and replays, and sponsor promotions.

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                    • Originally posted by chisamba View Post

                      Copied this minute from their slide show .

                      The main video screen in the George H. Morris Arena measures 16 feet x 28 feet and is supported by two 16-foot by 9-foot screens which that present live video, and replays, and sponsor promotions.
                      Did they just change the name on the schedule? Or is the physical sign on the ring gone?

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                      • Originally posted by dannyboy View Post
                        Maybe you should ask her what her position on GM is. His name is magic to many people. Although I don't think I would want my picture with him on a profile pic, you can't just erase his contribution to equestrian sport. He gave a lot of people an excellent equestrian education. She is obviously proud of attending a clinic with him at Gladstone and it's a valid part of her CV.

                        Her mother is having heart surgery - she may have better things to do with her time than changing her profile picture.

                        Disclaimer: I don't know this woman at all, I just checked out Millcreek Farm and her FB page.
                        She had time on August 7 to change her profile picture to the current, of her and GM. I think that should say what needs to be said, no?

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                        • You definitely know more about the sitch than I do. In that case, by all means, drop a dime on the school.

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                          • Originally posted by Raine View Post
                            Tryon web site has updated stadium name...now just called Tryon Stadium.
                            Finally! It was so disappointing to read their statement about keeping the name “for now”, that was released Sunday. I’m glad they decided to do the right thing!

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                            • Where was the name change? It's still listed as the George Morris Arena on the map.

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                              • Originally posted by endlessclimb View Post
                                Another local one. Serah Vogus' current facebook profile picture is her with GM. Here's an article about her...

                                https://www.dailyherald.com/submitte...creek-new-life

                                Perhaps the Antioch School District, who owns the barn she leases, would like to know of her support of him...
                                Huh? You’re suggesting she should lose the lease on her barn because she is supporting him? Suggesting that people should contact the barn owners and let them know? Give your head a shake.

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                                • Originally posted by endlessclimb View Post
                                  Another local one. Serah Vogus' current facebook profile picture is her with GM. Here's an article about her...

                                  https://www.dailyherald.com/submitte...creek-new-life

                                  Perhaps the Antioch School District, who owns the barn she leases, would like to know of her support of him...
                                  This would be incredibly inappropriate.
                                  Adversity is the stone on which I sharpen my blade.

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                                  • Originally posted by BigMama1 View Post

                                    Huh? You’re suggesting she should lose the lease on her barn because she is supporting him? Suggesting that people should contact the barn owners and let them know? Give your head a shake.
                                    Yeah, people who run extensive kids camps and kid activities on their farm who want to do away with potential protection for them, and support a child molester, should be looked at carefully. They also should know better than anyone else how necessary these types of protections are.

                                    Disagree if you'd like. It's my opinion.

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                                    • Originally posted by BigMama1 View Post

                                      Huh? You’re suggesting she should lose the lease on her barn because she is supporting him? Suggesting that people should contact the barn owners and let them know? Give your head a shake.
                                      Indeed. There are lines that you simply don't cross - for legal purposes - and that is one of them. Feel-Good morality-driven actions such as that are as rash and impulsive as they are dangerous in hindsight. Were she to go forward and contact the barn owners, I can guarantee it would backfire and all she would get out of it is a legal battle and a court date.
                                      Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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                                      • Yet people are contacting the barns of others inquiring about sponsorship status and IEA stuff.

                                        Informing someone of something factual is not grounds for a lawsuit, lying about her would be. I just found it interesting that the school district owns a massive high dollar farm, and the trainer has the gall to support a child molester in the face of it.

                                        I do think that people who are willing to put their name and livelihood on the line over a child molester should have some consequences. Maybe I'm wrong for that.

                                        Perhaps Serah, who is a poster on this board, can come comment on why she would change her profile picture at such a coincidental time, and how she feels about SafeSport and the GM sanction.

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                                        • Originally posted by RainWeasley View Post
                                          Where was the name change? It's still listed as the George Morris Arena on the map.
                                          On the schedule in ShowGroundsLive. It's likely the different web properties/assets are managed by different people, so I bet they change one at a time over the next days/weeks. Not to mention the physical things, like signage on the ring. But looks like the changes are underway.

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