Stallion Spotlight

Total Hope-11-18-09-3662

Real Estate Spotlight

Main-Barn-Bench-to-end2
  • Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You�re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the Forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it�details of personal disputes may be better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts, though are not legally obligated to do so, regardless of content.

Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting. Moderators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts unless they have been alerted and have determined that a post, thread or user has violated the Forums� policies. Moderators do not regularly independently monitor the Forums for such violations.

Profanity, outright vulgarity, blatant personal insults or otherwise inappropriate statements will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Users may provide their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, individuals, etc.; however, accounts involving allegations of criminal behavior against named individuals or companies MUST be first-hand accounts and may NOT be made anonymously.

If a situation has been reported upon by a reputable news source or addressed by law enforcement or the legal system it is open for discussion, but if an individual wants to make their own claims of criminal behavior against a named party in the course of that discussion, they too must identify themselves by first and last name and the account must be first-person.

Criminal allegations that do not satisfy these requirements, when brought to our attention, may be removed pending satisfaction of these criteria, and we reserve the right to err on the side of caution when making these determinations.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it�s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users� profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses � Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it�s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who�s selling it, it doesn�t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions � Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services � Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products � While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements � Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be �bumped� excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues � Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators� discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the �alert� button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your �Ignore� list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you�d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user�s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 5/9/18)
See more
See less

deleted

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #41
    Originally posted by evilc123 View Post
    I may be behind on this whole thing, but last I checked insta, there weren't really any details. Until they confirm that it was actually Nair and not someone's liniment bottle that accidentally exploded in the next stall or something, I am not super keen on assuming this was intentional animal abuse. Even MTG can cause that reaction in a sensitive horse.
    There is an active investigation, a tip line, the local police are involved, and a 5000$ reward. The latest insta post includes the number for any tips coming in, and it states they are hoping to confirm information they have received. Also agree with the other poster that nair and products like it have a very strong smell. Short of posting the police report, I am not sure what more information is required?

    Comment


    • #42
      Originally posted by MHM View Post

      I’m sure that is true about wackos, but I was still surprised to hear that this happened in Canada, based on the Canadians I have met. I have been to those shows in Ottawa several times over the years, and everybody always seemed very nice. I don’t recall seeing many Americans there, which was why I was curious about whether this horse was owned by an American.

      .
      So I have lived in NC for almost a year and I get people saying this to me all the time and it makes me laugh. Of course there are horrible, mean, insane people in Canada. Our culture and values may be a bit different then American's, but any population will have those people. I tell people where I live that in general, I find them kinder. Canadians will be polite, say sorry all the time, and will stand up for our values and the rights of others, but for me, people in the south on just a general person to person interaction, are just as nice if not nicer.

      Comment


      • #43
        Is there any press or non-facebook coverage of the incident?

        Comment


        • #44
          Originally posted by AMWookey View Post

          There is an active investigation, a tip line, the local police are involved, and a 5000$ reward. The latest insta post includes the number for any tips coming in, and it states they are hoping to confirm information they have received. Also agree with the other poster that nair and products like it have a very strong smell. Short of posting the police report, I am not sure what more information is required?
          None of the things you listed came from a source other than the owner. He/She was the one who filed the police report, set up the tip line, posted a reward... Even the Nair suspicion doesn't seem to have any validation. I'm aware that it has a strong smell, but we don't know whether the smell is the reason she suspected it--we are just assuming. The phrasing and vocabulary in the instagram posts point to young teenager. I think it is reasonable to ask questions when very serious allegations are being made.

          Comment


          • #45
            Originally posted by evilc123 View Post

            None of the things you listed came from a source other than the owner. He/She was the one who filed the police report, set up the tip line, posted a reward... Even the Nair suspicion doesn't seem to have any validation. I'm aware that it has a strong smell, but we don't know whether the smell is the reason she suspected it--we are just assuming. The phrasing and vocabulary in the instagram posts point to young teenager. I think it is reasonable to ask questions when very serious allegations are being made.
            I went ahead and from the name of the horse on the Instagram post, the number in her photo, and the horse show, found out that she isn't a teenager and isn't Canadian. Not that difficult.

            Regardless, a teenager wouldnt be able to post a 5k award money on their own either. There would be to be parental collaboration, so that theory doesnt really have weight.

            I very much doubt that Welsey Clover Parks, which is a subsidiary of a much larger non equine corporation, would make a statement for bad publicity either, until there is a solution in hand. The local media in the capital of canada as well, have better things to report on. So I am really not sure where you would find more collaboration other then the OPP or Ottawa Police putting out a statement (unlikely if they are already receiving enough tips) or the vet making a statement ( skydy hopefully this answers your question as well)

            Comment


            • #46
              Originally posted by skydy View Post
              Is there any press or non-facebook coverage of the incident?
              Just did a quick search of the two major Ottawa papers and there was nothing online for either of them. Seems they didn't even acknowledge that there was a horse show going on there. I know one of the local TV stations was there, but doubt they covered this case.
              ~~Some days are a total waste of makeup.~~

              Comment


              • #47
                Originally posted by AMWookey View Post

                I went ahead and from the name of the horse on the Instagram post, the number in her photo, and the horse show, found out that she isn't a teenager and isn't Canadian. Not that difficult.

                Regardless, a teenager wouldnt be able to post a 5k award money on their own either. There would be to be parental collaboration, so that theory doesnt really have weight.

                I very much doubt that Welsey Clover Parks, which is a subsidiary of a much larger non equine corporation, would make a statement for bad publicity either, until there is a solution in hand. The local media in the capital of canada as well, have better things to report on. So I am really not sure where you would find more collaboration other then the OPP or Ottawa Police putting out a statement (unlikely if they are already receiving enough tips) or the vet making a statement ( skydy hopefully this answers your question as well)
                Did you also find that while in her picture she said they did their first 1.35 on Sunday at the show, but the only class she did the entire show was a 1.20 and the only 1.35 at that show on Sunday was a $10K GP that she was not on the list for? Not that that necessarily means anything, maybe it was a schooling round or something (do they do those at those shows?).

                And no I wasn't trying to stalk her to prove she was lying about anything, I had tried to find posts on facebook about it but wasn't having any luck finding anything, so I was trying to find her name to see if I could find the posts that way since she had mentioned the 1.35 class on Sunday at that show. Still can't find the facebook posts though.


                ETA: She just posted on IG that they found the container of hair removal product stashed in a port-a-potty and they detective is taking it in for finger printing. Maybe they will be able to figure out who did it and catch them! Sounds like they are getting closer!

                Comment


                • #48
                  Originally posted by RainWeasley View Post

                  Did you also find that while in her picture she said they did their first 1.35 on Sunday at the show, but the only class she did the entire show was a 1.20 and the only 1.35 at that show on Sunday was a $10K GP that she was not on the list for? Not that that necessarily means anything, maybe it was a schooling round or something (do they do those at those shows?).

                  And no I wasn't trying to stalk her to prove she was lying about anything, I had tried to find posts on facebook about it but wasn't having any luck finding anything, so I was trying to find her name to see if I could find the posts that way since she had mentioned the 1.35 class on Sunday at that show. Still can't find the facebook posts though.


                  ETA: She just posted on IG that they found the container of hair removal product stashed in a port-a-potty and they detective is taking it in for finger printing. Maybe they will be able to figure out who did it and catch them! Sounds like they are getting closer!
                  I couldn't actually get the emg orders of go for the first week of the international, just results (guessing its because I am on my phone). So I could find her if she placed, not if she competed but didnt place. Found them for week 2 but obviously she wasnt entered.

                  They have schooling rounds throughout the week typically but not the weekends.

                  Comment


                  • #49
                    Originally posted by AMWookey View Post

                    I couldn't actually get the emg orders of go for the first week of the international, just results (guessing its because I am on my phone). So I could find her if she placed, not if she competed but didnt place. Found them for week 2 but obviously she wasnt entered.

                    They have schooling rounds throughout the week typically but not the weekends.
                    Oh well. It sounds like they are making progress towards figuring out who did it, and the horse seems to be healing up really well, so that is really all that matters anyways!

                    I went back and looked, I didn't even realize that depending on where you look at the results, it might not show all the entries. It does if you look when it is sorted by division but it doesn't even have that 1.35 listed in the divisions. That's kind of annoying. So she very well could have done it and just not been in the, what, top ten? Don't get why they don't just show all the results.

                    Comment


                    • #50
                      Originally posted by AMWookey View Post

                      I went ahead and from the name of the horse on the Instagram post, the number in her photo, and the horse show, found out that she isn't a teenager and isn't Canadian. Not that difficult.

                      Regardless, a teenager wouldnt be able to post a 5k award money on their own either. There would be to be parental collaboration, so that theory doesnt really have weight.

                      I very much doubt that Welsey Clover Parks, which is a subsidiary of a much larger non equine corporation, would make a statement for bad publicity either, until there is a solution in hand. The local media in the capital of canada as well, have better things to report on. So I am really not sure where you would find more collaboration other then the OPP or Ottawa Police putting out a statement (unlikely if they are already receiving enough tips) or the vet making a statement ( skydy hopefully this answers your question as well)
                      Do you mean corroboration? Anyway, my point was that the maturity level conveyed in her posts made it extremely difficult to take the situation seriously. If she isn't a teenager then she seems like a maladjusted adult.

                      RainWeasley Thanks for the update! Glad they are making progress!

                      Comment


                      • #51
                        Originally posted by AMWookey View Post

                        The only thing I can think, to make it less horrifying is whomever did it, has never used nair, and thought it would just create a bald patch. Anyone who has ever used a hair removal cream like that knows it burns.
                        Once had a Nair disaster trying to thin a horse's mane. I am sure if you search my username, you can find the post I made about it. Anyway, luckily it didn't cause any kind of skin harm, just a really ugly looking mane situation which I resolved by roaching.
                        ~Veronica
                        "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
                        http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

                        Comment


                        • #52
                          Originally posted by evilc123 View Post

                          Do you mean corroboration? Anyway, my point was that the maturity level conveyed in her posts made it extremely difficult to take the situation seriously. If she isn't a teenager then she seems like a maladjusted adult.

                          RainWeasley Thanks for the update! Glad they are making progress!
                          Yup! That is the word. I have a learning disability that affects (effects? Gah) the way I pronounce things and sometimes makes me use the wrong word in written work. I really enjoy it when it gets pointed out too. Like when a prof told me for a really smart person, I was really quite stupid. All for one wrong word.... In all honesty though, I do like it when people point it out to me on anonymous BB because then hopefully I will remember it and retrain my brain to the correct one, so that I won't look stupid in person.

                          All I am trying to point out is sometimes when someone is in an emotional state because someone burnt their horse, and signs point to it being on purpose, support and compassion is more helpful then picking apart stories, grammar, style of writing.

                          Comment


                          • #53
                            Originally posted by AMWookey View Post

                            Yup! That is the word. I have a learning disability that affects (effects? Gah) the way I pronounce things and sometimes makes me use the wrong word in written work. I really enjoy it when it gets pointed out too. Like when a prof told me for a really smart person, I was really quite stupid. All for one wrong word.... In all honesty though, I do like it when people point it out to me on anonymous BB because then hopefully I will remember it and retrain my brain to the correct one, so that I won't look stupid in person.

                            All I am trying to point out is sometimes when someone is in an emotional state because someone burnt their horse, and signs point to it being on purpose, support and compassion is more helpful then picking apart stories, grammar, style of writing.
                            Affect/effect = just use "impact". I can never sort those out, either.

                            Comment


                            • #54
                              Originally posted by AMWookey View Post

                              I went ahead and from the name of the horse on the Instagram post, the number in her photo, and the horse show, found out that she isn't a teenager and isn't Canadian. Not that difficult.

                              Regardless, a teenager wouldnt be able to post a 5k award money on their own either. There would be to be parental collaboration, so that theory doesnt really have weight.

                              I very much doubt that Welsey Clover Parks, which is a subsidiary of a much larger non equine corporation, would make a statement for bad publicity either, until there is a solution in hand. The local media in the capital of canada as well, have better things to report on. So I am really not sure where you would find more collaboration other then the OPP or Ottawa Police putting out a statement (unlikely if they are already receiving enough tips) or the vet making a statement ( skydy hopefully this answers your question as well)
                              I was wondering about any horse media coverage. I wouldn't expect the mainstream press to pick it up.

                              Comment


                              • #55
                                Originally posted by skydy View Post

                                I was wondering about any horse media coverage. I wouldn't expect the mainstream press to pick it up.
                                I never really thought about it, but other then some coverage sometimes of the big saturday classes at the Ottawa shows, and the press releases that WCP puts out on their website, we dont really have an equivalent like the various 'nations' or COTH, or Horse and Hound that give day to day, event to event media coverage. Not comprehensive that I can think of at least.

                                Comment


                                • #56
                                  Originally posted by endlessclimb View Post

                                  Affect/effect = just use "impact". I can never sort those out, either.
                                  Genius!
                                  "He's not even a good pathological liar." Mara

                                  "You're just a very desperate troll, and not even a good one. You're like middle-school troll at best. Like a goblin, not even a troll." et_fig

                                  Comment


                                  • #57
                                    Affect is a verb. Effect, a noun.

                                    Of course, being English, there are exceptions.

                                    Comment


                                    • #58
                                      Originally posted by skydy View Post
                                      Affect is a verb. Effect, a noun.

                                      Of course, being English, there are exceptions.
                                      Business major with a master's (in progress) for military science and technology ... in other words, I literally had to say to myself "now which one is the action one?" Maybe this is why my French trg is going so bad!

                                      Comment


                                      • #59
                                        You have a math brain! I admire that. I completely missed out on even one gene from my father's super engineering math brain.

                                        Comment


                                        • #60
                                          I saw it on FB, and that post implied the owner knew who did it and just needed proof. So if the owner is American, the offender is probably also American and they have an ongoing rivalry.

                                          Comment

                                          Working...
                                          X