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  • Dog attack at Saugerties

    Young girl and her puppy attacked, pup died Anyone know what happened?

  • #2
    Much discussion on Facebook.
    The owner of the cane corso dogs is a trainer and this has apparently been a problem in the past at other shows.
    You will not rise to the occasion, you will default to your level of training.


    • Original Poster

      Originally posted by Midge View Post
      Much discussion on Facebook.
      The owner of the cane corso dogs is a trainer and this has apparently been a problem in the past at other shows.
      Could you point me in the right direction for the fb discussion please (if it' a public forum)


      • #4
        This is the post I saw. I think it’s public. It sounds like a horrible situation. Poor kid, poor puppy.


        • #5
          No dogs should be allowed at a horse show period...
          leashed rule is a joke...dogs pee all over your hay. Poop in the aisles..makes me crazy!
          Your village is calling. Apparently their idiot is missing!


          • #6
            It's mentioned in some detail in the ever slimy Horse Show Diva forum.


            • #7
              Originally posted by willowoodstables View Post
              No dogs should be allowed at a horse show period...
              leashed rule is a joke...dogs pee all over your hay. Poop in the aisles..makes me crazy!
              I agree. As someone who was bit in the thigh by a trainer’s dog eight weeks ago, it was an awful experience.


              • #8
                I think people with a little dog should follow the rule of keeping them on a leash or keeping them in a crate. The little dogs at the shows I go to are always loose and charge at my dog who is on a leash. My dog is very good but it’s ridiculous.


                • #9
                  It is horrific to think of what that little girl went thru and the trauma both mental and physical she suffered.

                  The dog owner in question's dogs have been terrorizing exhibitors at shows for years. I always steer clear of them. I no longer bring my big dogs to shows because of all of the loose dogs. And I only bring my little one when I am not too busy and can scoop him up if need be.
                  Accuracy is the twin brother of honesty; inaccuracy, of dishonesty.
                  Nathaniel Hawthorne


                  • #10
                    Don't bring dogs to a horse show. That's it. Just don't.
                    Founding Member: Spotted Saddlebred Pals Clique


                    • #11
                      That is hideous. I won't bring my dogs anywhere they could possibly disrupt. That's so rude. Dogs do not belong at horse shows, even if they don't get loose, who needs the barking? Loose dogs invite disaster, even the best behaved ones and accidents happen.

                      Large dogs with small prey instincts should NEVER be in public without a muzzle and on an attended leash (human on other end at all times.) When I have owned a dog with prey instincts I was very careful when I took her out of her yard. I'm glad I haven't had one of those in years, tough dogs to handle and love, cannot be trusted around small animals, you must watch them like a hawk. Idiot owners in that case.


                      • #12
                        What an awful story. That poor little girl.

                        Typically its the terriers that I see causing problems at horse shows, so I am surprised to see that the aggressor here was a Cane Corso.

                        While banning all dogs from horse shows sounds like an excellent idea to me, I don't think that that will ever happen. A lot of these pros spend every single weekend on the road at a horse show somewhere, so for them to hire someone to take care of their dogs every weekend would be extremely expensive. Even for me, hiring someone to watch my dog for the handful of horse shows I attend is expensive and I can't always do it.

                        I am lucky in that my breed of choice has always been Greyhounds. They are very gentile and are like "velcro" on my hip, and I adopt them after racing, so they are accustomed to wearing a muzzle when necessary. However, that doesn't change the fact that they look intimidating with big ole fangs and everyone knows that my dogs could chase down their yappy dog and swallow it whole before anyone knew what was happening. So I have noticed at horse shows, when people see my dogs, they find their dogs immediately and put them on a leash. I assume they do it as a precaution.

                        Perhaps rather than banning dogs all together, a good compromise would be to ban certain breeds, just like high volume apartment complexes. There are some "usual suspects" that really wreak havoc at horse shows.


                        • #13
                          Couldn’t get the original description of what happened to load so....was the little dog leashed or not?
                          When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                          The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.


                          • #14
                            By banning "certain breeds" I assume we aren't talking the high energy yappy jack Russells that wreak havoc and won't let things go, yapping and terrorizing other dogs? Or the large enthusiastic goldens and labs that don't stop barking and jump up and at everyone? Or the chihuahuas that yap and yap and yap..? Worst incident I ever saw knew of was when a young golden at an in barn show that bit a child's face. I assume no one is talking about banning them though.

                            come on now. Let's be reasonable - "breed bans" don't stop bad owners from bringing poorly trained and poorly socialized dogs into the public sphere. Bad owners aren't restricted to breeds of dogs.

                            Horse shows should be for horses, first and foremost. If people are unwilling to restrict their canine companions if they are a disruption (loose, barking, chasing, lunging at the end of their leashes at any passers by) the dogs need to be banned. I am distressed that people feel so entitled to create "dog space" in what is clearly defined as a horse event. I love well behaved dogs at equestrian events. But unfortunately many people don't seem to be accurate assessors of their own dogs' behaviors.


                            • #15
                              findeight My understanding is that the little girl was holding the puppy in her arms when the other dog (which I understand was on one of those long "leashes", clearly not short enough for him to be under control) attacked it.


                              • #16
                                If the kid was holding the puppy in her arms and the other dog attacked both of them? Leashed or not won’t make any difference. Big dog owner did not have control of the big dog and that sounds like a lawsuit plus animal control involvement.

                                Sounds like neither party was violating USEF rules.
                                When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                                The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.


                                • #17
                                  There also needs to be a rule about length of leash. Clearly if "leashed" the leash was way too long to be actually safe. Hooking your Cane Corso who has bitten several people to a longe line isn't exactly following the spirit of the rule.


                                  • #18
                                    Did horse show diva delete its thread? I only see a short post with 2 small comments there. the FB thread is extensive.


                                    • #19
                                      Per the FB link posted, puppy's owners asked Tom for money to pay for puppy's care and Tom agreed. Is that true? Why would any third party pay or be responsible for the bills? Corso's owner/s are fully liable and should do the right thing and pay. Or their insurance will. Anyone know what's happening financially or legally?

                                      I hope animal control was involved.


                                      • #20
                                        Who was the trainer! Somebody with a big string who always fills the managers stalls and classes.? Course we are relying here on second hand info for restitution requests and fulfillment. Don’t know who said what to whom when.
                                        When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                                        The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.