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Alternatives to laced reins : Update EC Hunter Legal

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  • Alternatives to laced reins : Update EC Hunter Legal

    Anyone ride in reins that aren’t laced? I am so sick of cleaning them and my current ones twist horribly. I was looking at the thin CWD fancy stirched rubber reins but haven’t held them in person. The photos look like they would be nice to hold but open to options.
    Last edited by Against*All*Odds; Mar. 13, 2019, 02:15 PM.
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    If you're showing rated hunters, you can't use rubber reins in Canada unless an exception is made due to bad weather:

    Article G203:
    6. Reins: entirely leather of any description, buckled, studded or sewn; single rein pelham with pelham converters are allowed only in junior and amateur classes in 3’ (0.90m) or below. In the case of bad weather, at the discretion of the judge, steward and/or competition committee, rubber reins may be allowed

    Have you looked at the leather reins that are smooth leather with leather stops? I've got a pair that I used when showing hunters and really liked the feel of them, and they are much easier to clean.
    I've spent most of my life riding horses. The rest I've just wasted.

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    • #3
      A great little trick is to use an electric toothbrush (with soft bristles) to clean laced reins. Works really well.
      \"If you are going through hell, keep going.\" ~Churchill~

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        #4
        I’ll be showing under the AQHA guidlines this year but can’t get the rulebook to load online.

        Good to know about EC. I hadn’t thought about it. I can keep my current reins for shows.
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        • #5
          If you already hate the reins and are looking to replace them you could start just hosing them off to clean them. In the past I have used leather tools to make little dents in smooth leather reins so I can feel where my hands are without the distracting visual of stops or laces.

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          • #6
            If you want full leather, fancy stitched reins that aren't laced, try Hinterland's soft notched reins. They are the most comfortable reins I've used and are easier to clean than laced or even plain leather.

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              #7
              Originally posted by conniemary View Post
              If you want full leather, fancy stitched reins that aren't laced, try Hinterland's soft notched reins. They are the most comfortable reins I've used and are easier to clean than laced or even plain leather.
              Those look beautiful! I had never heard of them.
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                conniemary I bought them Will report back on them when they arrive!

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                  Originally posted by Against*All*Odds View Post
                  conniemary I bought them Will report back on them when they arrive!

                  I love COTH!
                  I just ordered them as well!

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                    Those Hinterland reins look perfect! Reading the product description it says that they have web inserts. Would this make them a show ring no go in Canada? They look perfect and I seriously want them but not if I can't use them! TIA

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                      Originally posted by Supakwe View Post
                      Those Hinterland reins look perfect! Reading the product description it says that they have web inserts. Would this make them a show ring no go in Canada? They look perfect and I seriously want them but not if I can't use them! TIA
                      This is the first I have heard of them but they do seem to be exactly what OP is looking for. I thought the description meant that the web inserts were inside the leather reins so that they are invisible but maybe I'm wrong.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BAC View Post

                        This is the first I have heard of them but they do seem to be exactly what OP is looking for. I thought the description meant that the web inserts were inside the leather reins so that they are invisible but maybe I'm wrong.
                        I'm pretty sure the webbing is an insert so not visible but I'm concerned about rule sticklers. I'm doubtful that anyone would second guess them but who knows... Ahhhhh screw it I'll buy them anyway

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Supakwe View Post

                          I'm pretty sure the webbing is an insert so not visible but I'm concerned about rule sticklers. I'm doubtful that anyone would second guess them but who knows... Ahhhhh screw it I'll buy them anyway
                          The webbing is definitely not visible, but I don't know the rule sorry.
                          They are amazing - I bought one pair and don't want to use any other reins now!

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                            Ugh I can’t wait for them to ship!
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                              Originally posted by Against*All*Odds View Post
                              Ugh I can’t wait for them to ship!
                              Let me know how you like them. I hate cleaning laced reins.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Supakwe View Post
                                Those Hinterland reins look perfect! Reading the product description it says that they have web inserts. Would this make them a show ring no go in Canada? They look perfect and I seriously want them but not if I can't use them! TIA
                                The rule says “entirely of leather” so if a steward were to check your equipment, you’d be in trouble! (Unless the leather completely covers the notches and you cannot put your hand in between, then most likely you’re fine!). Now this rule is for hunters, so they’re just fine in the jumpers....I’ve also known people “push”this rule but me...nope....Ive had stewards measure my crop, check my bit and check to make sure there’s no “tongue ties” etc being used! I Never mind and always happily comply as I know I’m aok withmy equipment!
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                                • #17
                                  The reason those reins have nylon inserts is that they are made of calfskin. Calf is too delicate to hold up without a lining. The same is true of stirrup leathers. As the name suggests, they are meant to be made of leather, but since calf has become popular for tack, the lining became necessary.

                                  I suggest that this is a case of the "'letter of the law" vs. the "spirit of the law." I suspect the rule cited in SolarFlare's post above was written to prevent people from using reins that look like plain leather but have rubber or web backing to provide grip. Nylon inserts would not provide any additional grip. Any part of the rein the rider touches is leather.

                                  However, I realize that the rule as written is clear, and technically these reins could be considered in violation. I would suggest getting in touch with the official governing body and asking if these reins are OK.
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                                    Good points: I have reached out to my federal governing body and provincial governing body for clarification on these specifically. I will report back on my personal review of the reins and with what the status of these are per EC and OE
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Dewey View Post
                                      . . .
                                      I suggest that this is a case of the "'letter of the law" vs. the "spirit of the law." I suspect the rule cited in SolarFlare's post above was written to prevent people from using reins that look like plain leather but have rubber or web backing to provide grip. Nylon inserts would not provide any additional grip. Any part of the rein the rider touches is leather. . . .
                                      .
                                      That makes sense and I suspect they would be allowed but best to confirm that just to be sure, as you suggested..

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                                        #20
                                        THJA is suggesting they would pass inspection but it is subjective to each steward and to ask a steward for clarity at the first show of the season. I am waiting to hear back from EC.


                                        Also, I popped into Bahr Saddlery today and they have a similar (though not as nice) version seen here https://schockemoehle.net/en/schocke...durasoft?c=109

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