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  • split knees over fences...how to fix?

    My Trak gelding tends to jump fences by sort of cantering over them, instead of pushing off evenly behind, which results in a knee hanging or split knees over the jump - not pretty. He's never taken down a rail in front, but I know it's a problem. How do you all work on getting them to push from behind over jumps and even up those knees? He also tends to jump high-headed, which I know is a Trak thing but is there any way I can get him to drop down from the wither over fences? The pictures (which are purchased, btw) show what he's doing - the bigger the jump, the better he folds. TIA!
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    Uh, you're "jumping" 2 foot. Which means your lovely, talented horse is cantering over these speed bumps. I wouldn't worry until you get him to 3'6" where he might just have to use a teeny tiny bit of his apparent talent. Or, you could ship him to me and I'll put up with his "problem".
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    • #3
      1- see what he does over a bigger fence. You can do this in a jumping lane without a rider if you aren't comfortable between 3'6" and 4'.

      2- If he is still split over bigger fences, I'd work on lines of 2'6" to 3' bounces set on a slightly short step- maybe 4 or 5 bounces together.

      3- If a few days over bounces doesn't change anything, and if he always raises one the same leg higher regardless of which lead you approach the fence on, I'd have the vet take a look and make sure there isn't something in his stifle or hock that makes him want to push less from one side.

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        au_panda - LOL! Yes, those pictures are a bit outdated - those are BN fences (well, except the xc, which are a tad smaller than that) which is 2'6. He is schooling 3' at home, but still not trying very hard .

        joiedevie - jumping chute is a great idea. I never considered trying to free jump him. Also, good suggestion about checking his hocks. I've been planning on starting him on a course of Adequan this fall.

        Sigh - I might just have to challenge him more by upping the fence height! Or else just deal with the fact that until about Training level (3'3), he might just be a tad bored. Thanks!
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        • #5
          does he land on both leads, or just one? work on teaching him to land both leads by cantering some small jumps on a circle.
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            Originally posted by toomanyponies View Post
            does he land on both leads, or just one? work on teaching him to land both leads by cantering some small jumps on a circle.
            He doesn't seem to care which lead he lands on - I can get whatever lead I want just by opening the rein and stepping into the stirrup on that side. He does consistently drop the left leg, though, unless I bring him in tight and then he'll square up pretty evenly. He does prefer the deep distance, for some reason.
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            • #7
              I agree that the fences are awfully little to get a good idea about how he 'jumps'. However, if you do decide to get the vet out to look at stifles/hocks, it may not hurt to check his front knees and ankles for chips (especially the left).

              Another jump to practice over to help square his front end is trotting a tall cross-rail.

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              • #8
                Use a swedish oxer - high in the back on the side he likes to hang (I think you said left, so The front rail low on the left, high on the right and the hind rail the opposite). Raise the high side & leave the low side to get him to pick up the one leg higher. You can also achieve this by raising one side of a vertical (the left). To get him to drop his head and stretch across the jump use a landing rail and roll the ground line out a bit on the back side. Bounces are good, but be careful how often & how many you do. Also try trot poles with alternating one side of the rail up off the ground in a jump cup. So if you have 4 trot poles put the 1st and third up on the left and the 2nd and 4th up on the right. Not high, just the first hole is fine.

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                • #9
                  Set an oxer with the front rail higher than the back rail. Even better if they are heavy poles. This has worked a charm on a few of our performance horses with slow front ends.
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