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  • I've had good luck with Amigo, but the Bravo line is the way to go if you want good nylon and waterproof. I've also done fairly well with an Amigo fly sheet, but it doesn't fit as well as Rambo. The mesh on it works better for my horse than Rambo, though.

    The only down side to the Amigo blankets is somehow my pretty easy on blankets horse has ripped a surcingle off of an Amigo blanket now twice. Got the original one sewed back on (just ripped from the stitching) once, then ripped the thing in half next time. Still, buying replacements and paying the repair guy is so far cheaper than buying an equivalent Rambo, especially since I got the Amigo on mega sale. But, Rambo does have replaceable surcingles.

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    • My biggest disappointment is greenhawk's riding breeches and them shrinking over 2 sizes after their first wash, and no one warns you when you buy them. The quality is fantastic otherwise-just don't know what to do with my current pairs.
      http://www.akcanadianhorses.ca

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      • Yes, hate Piper breeches. A friend had a pair on that looked great. Bought 2 pair of regular full seats, and a silicone seat later. Hate them all. the waist is too big, the material is too thick and bunches. The silicone seat was too grippy and rolled under my thighs. Too bad as the prices were good.

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        • Biggest disappointment for me and my boy was the Schneider's Vtek Dublin Turnout Sheet.

          Nothing inherently wrong with the blanket, it's a gorgeous lovely amazingly well made blanket. My horse just happens to completely hate the "contour" fit. He likes the type that just lays over him, not hugging him. I was so disappointed because I spent some money on it and thought I was getting the bees knees of blankets for him.
          “Working horses is a little like being married. Sometimes you need to adjust and change your plan.”

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          • I recently ordered a pair of Pipers and was so excited when I tried them on. "Oooh, these are cute!!"
            Then I wore them for a lesson and quickly regretted my enthusiasm.
            The big fat seam down the calf/shin left marks on my legs that lasted for a week and hurt like crazy. I haven't worn them since. Ugh.

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            • Originally posted by PrincessPonies View Post
              I second not liking Smartpak breeches. Between the fit and material I just don’t like them at all. I’ve gotten both the oraginal piper and the knit. Neither one moves with me while I ride. The zipper and two pairs broke after less than three rides. And the silicon knee patches add nothing. The only thing going for them, which is why I ordered them, is they have big pockets for my cell phone.
              Glad I saw this before I ordered some Piper tights. I want a nice, affordable pair of full seat breeches. I feel like my regular breeches w/ knee patch are too slippery.
              Originally posted by katarine
              I don't want your prayers, tiny cow.
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              When it's time for a horse to go to a new person, that person will appear. It's pony magic.

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              • The new style of Ariat Terrain zips. Loved the old.ones. Hate the stupid collar and snap on the new ones, and it feels like they 've messed with the footbed, as well.

                I had a pair of.Tredstep zip paddock boots that.I really.liked. Got them when they first came in the market. Little arch support, but replacing their insoles with something with a bit of support did the trick. When they wore out, I.ordered a new pair. I was astonished at the crappy leather --the first pair had been like butter. I returned them.
                apologies for random punctuation/autocorrect. Am typing on tablet. Microsoft has been remotely trying to install my computer updates.for the last 4 hours.
                "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                • Originally posted by BAC View Post

                  I hope you love them as much as I do.
                  BAC really impressed with the CWD leathers! No twisting, easy to adjust from the saddle, and seem really durable and of great quality. Hope they last me a while. Thanks for the recommendation
                  "These are my principles. If you do not like them, I have others." --Groucho Marx

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                  • 1.) Silicone breeches. They seem to be either too sticky and I can't get out of my saddle, or barely there and I feel kinda naked when I'm riding (cough, cough, Kerrits, cough).

                    2.) Similarly, FITS breeches. They're alright I guess, but I can't figure out why they are so stinking expensive. And the rubber stuff they use on the knee patch or seat doesn't hold up.

                    But, I LOVE Pipers.

                    3.) Jointed stirrup irons of any brand and style. They make my ankles hyperflex, so all the shock absorption has to come from my knees, and I don't need to wear those out any faster.

                    4.) Horsewear blankets of any variety. They rub the crap out of any horse with any sort of whither or definition in its shoulder. They work fine if you have a round, flat-backed pony, and that's about it. Again, I also don't understand why they are so expensive either. I've had the front closures literally fall off of a Horseware sheet after one season of use.

                    5.) Pretty much all fly spray. Equiderma fly spray gives 6 of the 7 horses in our barn hives. I sprayed it on the walls the barn and stalls though, and it seemed to help. Can't call it a victory though, because that's not what I bought it for. I can't smell Eccovet fly spray, (so maybe I need to have my sinuses looked at??) but it didn't work much better than the Ultrashield in the black bottle and it's way more expensive.

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                    • I feel very lucky as the Amigo fits my horse well and the Bravo has been amazing, went through its first harsh winter in it and no rips and horse was always dry.

                      I actually feel mixed about Oglivy baby pads, two of mine were slipping easily so I got rid of them. I bought a new one trying to give it a second chance and I have been happy with it now.

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                      • I will gladly take those BOT polos off anyone's hands lol - I love them!
                        Only two emotions belong in the saddle: One is a sense of humor. The other is patience.

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                        • Originally posted by Can'tFindMyWhip View Post
                          1.) I can't smell Eccovet fly spray, (so maybe I need to have my sinuses looked at??) but it didn't work much better than the Ultrashield in the black bottle and it's way more expensive.
                          Like, can't smell it at all? I am kind of jealous. It knocks me out from 50 yards away.

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                          • Originally posted by Can'tFindMyWhip View Post
                            1.)

                            4.) Horsewear blankets of any variety. They rub the crap out of any horse with any sort of whither or definition in its shoulder. They work fine if you have a round, flat-backed pony, and that's about it. Again, I also don't understand why they are so expensive either. I've had the front closures literally fall off of a Horseware sheet after one season of use.
                            .
                            I'm on my 3rd consecutive shark finned TB. All have gone in Rambo blankets, except for an ill-fated attempt with the Schneider's blankets. The most recent horse has Smartpak Turnout sheet (his medium and heavy are Rambo) and I'm about to order him a Rambo Sheet because the fit and the durability can't be beat and the Smartpak one is really only good as a layer since it wasn't waterproof after the first month despite not being washed.

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                            • Originally posted by shmon View Post

                              BAC really impressed with the CWD leathers! No twisting, easy to adjust from the saddle, and seem really durable and of great quality. Hope they last me a while. Thanks for the recommendation
                              I'm so glad you are happy with them.

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                              • Originally posted by IPEsq View Post
                                I've had good luck with Amigo, but the Bravo line is the way to go if you want good nylon and waterproof. I've also done fairly well with an Amigo fly sheet, but it doesn't fit as well as Rambo. The mesh on it works better for my horse than Rambo, though.

                                The only down side to the Amigo blankets is somehow my pretty easy on blankets horse has ripped a surcingle off of an Amigo blanket now twice. Got the original one sewed back on (just ripped from the stitching) once, then ripped the thing in half next time. Still, buying replacements and paying the repair guy is so far cheaper than buying an equivalent Rambo, especially since I got the Amigo on mega sale. But, Rambo does have replaceable surcingles.
                                I haven't ever been able to scrape the $$ together for a Rambo (maybe if my need for new blankets didn't always coincide with a vet bill... ) but I have an Amigo Bravo 12 Plus (I think that's the full name!) that I've used now two winters, and I'm really impressed with it. everything has held up really well, no rips, rubs, tears. Stitching is intact everywhere. It's mega mega faded, but can't expect anything else when a blanket is out in the sun 12 hours a day. So I'd second that the Bravos are a good buy. Got mine on sale for $275(CAD) and it's well worth it so far.

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                                • Custom Rider Apparel (CRA) off the shelf breeches. I bought two pair that fit wonderfully but after the first wash (per label instructions) they shrunk at least one size easily. Smartpak Ultimate turnout blanket and hood - if it weren't for the warranty, I don't think I would keep these. The straps are not sewn in a way to stay attached to the blanket or hood. I've returned them twice and just reinforced the straps myself. Otherwise, I think they are great blankets.

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                                  • BOT Royal padded hock boots. Bought them to replace my second pair of the original hock boots which aren't the most durable things in the world either (I can usually get a year out of a pair with nightly stall wear). The padded ones are enormous, don't offer as much adjustability with the padding, so they never stayed up. Tried them for two weeks with various positioning/tightening adjustments before I gave up and sold them. I wanted to like them so bad - the padding seems like such an upgrade! But pointless when they can't stay up overnight in a stall.

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                                    • Maybe I'm showing my age, but breaking in modern boots (*cough, cough* Tredsteps) doesn't even remotely compare to breaking in the old school pull-on boots. These new things are a-MAZE-ing. That said, the Ovations I picked up 2 years ago on a whim lasted ~10 rides before the leather fell apart (repairable but annoying) and ~20 rides before a zipper blew (not paying that to replace boots of this quality).

                                      But my last pair of pull-ons, circa 1998 first generation Ariats made in Italy, still look brand new and the foot is oh so comfy--if only I could wedge my legs into them.......
                                      Flip a coin. It's not what side lands that matters, but what side you were hoping for when the coin was still in the air.

                                      You call it boxed wine. I call it carboardeaux.

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                                      • Originally posted by AKCH View Post
                                        My biggest disappointment is greenhawk's riding breeches and them shrinking over 2 sizes after their first wash, and no one warns you when you buy them. The quality is fantastic otherwise-just don't know what to do with my current pairs.
                                        Did you wash in hot water or put in the dryer? I wash all my breeches in lingerie bags and hang to dry. Nothing has shrunk.

                                        But the Greenhawk breeches wore out super fast for me. One year to big holes in the full seats.

                                        Give your shrunken pairs to a child who will grow out of them before she wears them out!

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                                        • Noel Asmar polo shirts...weird fit and super cheap material for the price.
                                          Ecovet Fly Spray...just awful smelling and not effective.
                                          Equiderma Fly Spray...doesn’t work.
                                          Amigo blankets....rip too easily.

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