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  • How to correctly fit a standing martingale?

    I need this is in an about.com article So whats the guidlines? Right now I have mine so the horse doesn't know it there unless he becomes a giraffe, and even then I'm not sure it would come into play (wouldn't know since he well schooled)... but I copied best I could what i see in photos. When I have him on the bit (think dressage or equitation flat as this horse is trained through 3rd level) the martingale is literally flapping.

    Seriously wish the standing martingale wasn't a fad, 'cause I don't need one and I've always believed in not putting on unneeded equipment... oh well.

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    I have always gone by if the martingale can touch the throatlatch /throat area with out any of the leather draping. If that makes any sense what so ever! Lol

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    • #3
      Then don't use it

      But, if you feel you must, the section that connects from the chest to the noseband should be able to touch up to the throatlatch when the horse's head/neck are in a normal position.

      And yes, the more "collected" the horse is, the more that piece will flap around.
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      • #4
        I definitely wouldn't call it a fad.

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        • #5
          If you don't need it, don't use it.

          It has become a staple in the hunter o/f rings, but again, if it's not necessary, don't use it. You will not be penalized for not having it, if anything, depending on the judge, you may be slightly rewarded.
          Friend of bar.ka!
          Originally posted by MHM
          GM quote of the day, regarding the correct way to do things:
          "There's correct, and then there's correct. If you're almost correct, that means you're wrong."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by NeedsAdvil View Post
            I definitely wouldn't call it a fad.
            Uhhh, yah, if you show in one and your horse doesn't need it, IT IS A FAD.

            Time was, you'd be marked down for having a horse that needed one!
            "The standard you walk by is the standard you accept."--Lt. Gen. David Morrison, Austalian Army Chief

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            • #7
              No, using something you don't need doesn't make it a fad:

              fad:
              –noun a temporary fashion, notion, manner of conduct, etc., esp. one followed enthusiastically by a group.
              an intense but short-lived fashion; craze




              Note the "temporary" and "short-lived". SMs have been in use for YEARS. Years and years.
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              • #8
                1968: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...=1572418670653

                also older: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...=1576646016334

                1981: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...=1577787924881

                older: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...=1580015900579

                1964: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...=1119283102547

                1964: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...=1119304743088

                MSG: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...=1096574454845

                http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...=1096577934932

                http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...=1096578014934

                http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...=1096578054935

                http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...=1096578174938

                http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...=1096578374943

                http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...&id=1241103402

                http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...=1118656566884

                ETA: I feel like a freak linking this woman's Facebook page, but it's a great collection of pictures from another era in our sport. A few of her pics appeared in an album belonging to a FB group I'm a member of...

                I think the martingale has been widely used on a number of different horses for a variety of different reasons for a very long time.
                Here today, gone tomorrow...

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                • #9
                  alright kiddos settle down, let's not start another train wreck here, I forgot my flame suit at home today

                  Point is, op. If you don't need to use one, don't.

                  End of story.
                  Friend of bar.ka!
                  Originally posted by MHM
                  GM quote of the day, regarding the correct way to do things:
                  "There's correct, and then there's correct. If you're almost correct, that means you're wrong."

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                  • #10
                    Thanks guys, yes, by "fad", I was referring to something short lived or trendy. I have been using martingales since I started riding in the 80s.

                    It's true that not EVERY horse may need a SM, but to me it's a piece of safety equipment and therefore necessary. Using one on your horse will not cause any harm, but it may prevent some!

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                    • #11
                      The funny thing is, I fitted mine as stated above, it barely touched the throat latch area. While at a show recently I had a fellow trainer help me as I had hurt my back and wasn't doing to hot. Anyways she preceded to reprimand me because my martingale was useless when it went to there, it should be just shy of taunt when in the relaxed standing position I'm talking maybe an inch of give. This is a woman with a lot of knowledge under her belt.

                      So in short I'm glad you started this article because for years I have adjusted them as mentioned and I thought I was going crazy when I got told other wise. I never did adjust mine come to think of it....

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                      • #12
                        Usually, when a knowledgeable trainer has adjusted mine, it was definitely been on the shorter side. I think a lot of it depends on the horse and their natural carriage, as well as how much they use their head and neck over fences. I have one horse that requires a pretty short martingale, but with the other (who prob doesn't need it at all, but again, better safe than sorry), I adhere to the "able to touch the throatlatch rule.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by nlk View Post
                          she preceded to reprimand me because my martingale was useless when it went to there, it should be just shy of taunt when in the relaxed standing position I'm talking maybe an inch of give. This is a woman with a lot of knowledge under her belt.
                          And that is really, really scary. If it's that short, it does not allow the horse any normal use of freedom of his head and neck, and they want a horse to JUMP like that?
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                            http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=267020

                            read the link as it cover both the standing and the running martingale

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                            • #15
                              [QUOTE=nlk;5005430]The funny thing is, I fitted mine as stated above, it barely touched the throat latch area. While at a show recently I had a fellow trainer help me as I had hurt my back and wasn't doing to hot. Anyways she preceded to reprimand me because my martingale was useless when it went to there, it should be just shy of taunt when in the relaxed standing position I'm talking maybe an inch of give. This is a woman with a lot of knowledge under her belt.


                              I see a LOT of this in our area of SoCal. And no, they can't use their heads on landing. One of the reasons (IMO) so many horses down here seem to dive over the fences and land in a heap now. I had always believed you should be able to just bring it up to the throatlatch when standing naturally.

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