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Update post 10! How to make a consistent jump WITHOUT gymnastics?

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  • Update post 10! How to make a consistent jump WITHOUT gymnastics?

    Specifically, with 1 pair of standards and about 8 poles. I don't have access to a ring with more than this unless I go to a show, and it's a waste of money when he looks like a flailing monkey.
    I know he has a respectable jump in him, I've seen it. Sometimes he looks like this:
    http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7209217_n.jpg
    And then other times, it's just not pretty.
    So, I'd like to get him to more consistently look like the above picture, but with limited resources. Help?
    Last edited by To the MAX; Jul. 28, 2010, 06:13 PM.
    My CANTER cutie Chip and IHSA shows!
    http://www.youtube.com/kheit86

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    If you have 8 poles, can you use hay bales or something as "standards"? Heck, you could even use bales as the jumps themselves! You might need to get creative with jump materials, but it will conveniently help bombproof your horse at the same time Maybe you could convert a couple of the poles into cavaletti as well? Good luck!

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    • #3
      Roll in what you've got there. Trot rail, groundline, vertical, groundline, landing rail. Use the remaining poles for straightness guidelines if needed and save one to add to the vertical when it gets bigger so it's not too airy. When it's small you can set the landing rail at the same distance as your trot rail and go both ways, but you'll need to roll it out a bit on the landing and pick a direction as the jump gets bigger (still want to be slowing down though, not stretching for it). Give yourself plenty of groundline, and don't help the horse other than keeping him straight and hopefully slow and relaxed. We do this a ton at home, and ultimately over jumps of very decent size. You can get a lot done with very little effort.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CBoylen View Post
        Roll in what you've got there. Trot rail, groundline, vertical, groundline, landing rail. Use the remaining poles for straightness guidelines if needed and save one to add to the vertical when it gets bigger so it's not too airy. When it's small you can set the landing rail at the same distance as your trot rail and go both ways, but you'll need to roll it out a bit on the landing and pick a direction as the jump gets bigger (still want to be slowing down though, not stretching for it). Give yourself plenty of groundline, and don't help the horse other than keeping him straight and hopefully slow and relaxed. We do this a ton at home, and ultimately over jumps of very decent size. You can get a lot done with very little effort.
        This is exactly what I would have done. Great suggestion CBoylen as per usual.
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        • Original Poster

          #5
          Thank you everyone, especially CBoylen! You're always so helpful with these types of things. Could you give me measurements for all of the poles in your exercise? I was doing it mostly by feel on that crossrail.

          I will definitely work on that exercise, as well as just working poles by themselves to help my eye.
          Unfortunately I'm not sure if the BO would appreciate me bringing her hay bales into the ring and I'm not sure my boyfriend would appreciate lugging them around either!

          ETA: Here is the video from later the same day. At this point the ends of the crossrail were at the next to top hole. Please ignore me jumping up his neck and using it as a bed while in the air...haha
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HEM7y07Src
          My CANTER cutie Chip and IHSA shows!
          http://www.youtube.com/kheit86

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          • #6
            You'll start out with about six-foot rails on both sides, and a tiny jump. As you go up you'll roll the landing rail out gradually to about 9', and the trot rail out a smidge if needed. Remember the idea is to stay soft and slow, and let the rails and the jump back the horse off until it is round and careful. You need someone on the ground though, because the best way to set IS by feel, and it totally depends on your horse. So you're going to want someone there to roll rails as needed, when you feel you need more or less room on either side. You may also want to adjust your groundlines, depending on how the horse is using its front end taking off and landing, and your groundperson is going to need to give you feedback. So it's best to have a GOOD groundperson, not just one that can take orders.

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            • #7
              Super cute horse!

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              • #8
                Hi there, I agree with CBoylen 100% to add to that you definitely need a ground person to help you with the poles based on what your horse's step is like and how you want to manipulate what he gives you. When using a trot take off rail I use 9' as a starting point I train horses and ponies so obviously that distance changes. If the distance between the jump and pole is too long for them at first it can cause them to get rushy and nervous instead of just lengthen their stride through a soft back to get there which is the ultimate goal but you have to ease into that. You need to trot the jump even though some horses want to jump the trot pole and bounce over the x rail. If they are getting anxious the jump is too high and you may have to go back to a few poles on the ground until they relax. Have consideration that you are asking them to really use their hind end and back don't do too much. You want this to be a fun and inviting experience for them. On really green ones don't hesitate to grab mane for the unexpected so you don't them and give them a bad taste in their mouths for jumping. Once you get a nice trot in fence you can use take off and landing poles for the canter in over a single fence. I use 11' as a good start to see where their stride is then you can lengthen or shorten depending on how big their "relaxed" step is. Also have someone video you as well so you can see what these exercises are doing for your horse. You may want to try and make an oxer out of some hay bales as standards and depending on what you want your horse to do the width, back rail even or ascending will make a difference in him. Your feel and consistency riding and getting him to those poles are very important so don't over face yourself in order to get those knees up
                Good luck and have fun!
                Dacia Peters-Imperato
                www.steppingstonesporthorses.com
                Standing FOR PLAY, Hanoverian Stallion - Style of a Hunter, Scope/Power of a Show Jumper, Balance/Cadence of a Dressage horse. California

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                • Original Poster

                  #9
                  Update!
                  Tried the exercise CBoylen recommended today. For our last attempt, I took the trot pole away and cantered it, leaving the pole on the landing side to see if the trotting exercise improved his jump at all.
                  Here's our last jump today, it is set at about 2'11/3'0.
                  Video:
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwducAzPKmI
                  Picture:
                  http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5299/chipcute1.jpgpg

                  Also, my very kind neighbors offered me use of any of their jumps that they aren't using, and I'm now trailering over to their ring a few times a week with them, so I now have access to plenty of jumps to make gymnastics with!


                  Thanks for your help everyone!
                  Last edited by To the MAX; Jul. 29, 2010, 07:39 AM.
                  My CANTER cutie Chip and IHSA shows!
                  http://www.youtube.com/kheit86

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