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    Someone at the barn mentioned you can buy just alfalfa leaves, bagged? I can't find anything about it online and the feed store is shut today. Anyone seen that?

    This is the nearest thing I've seen: King Brand Alfalfa Molasses Crumbles - just wish it was higher fat! Like a combo of that and Alfa-A Oil perhaps?
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    haven't seen just the leaves, I think it would be too labor intensive to produce. If you just need the fine texture, there's alfalfa chop with molasses easy enough to get, alfalfa meal is made in stockton by Robinson farms, they do all in one (chop with mixed hays and molasses) and alfalfa meal (just alfalfa and molasses), you could add oil. Back in the stone age that's how old horses and show hunters were kept fat, you'd just put a garbage can in the corner of the stall and dump a sack of all in one in and free feed them on it. Sometimes you'd pour some corn oil over it. Ah the old days

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      There is also alfalfa chaffhaye its really soft easy for horse's to eat. My picky eater loves it.

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        Originally posted by Quelah View Post
        Back in the stone age that's how old horses and show hunters were kept fat, you'd just put a garbage can in the corner of the stall and dump a sack of all in one in and free feed them on it. Sometimes you'd pour some corn oil over it. Ah the old days
        Oh lordy! A veritable rat buffet

        My vet was the one who mentioned the alfalfa leaves only product now that I recall. And my response was "you mean all in one?" to which he laffed. But nothing is too good for the Decrepit (toothless) OTTB!
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          Several hard keepers at my stable had a never ending tub of All-In -One in their stalls. This was long, long ago. it did the trick.

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            Originally posted by Quelah View Post
            Back in the stone age that's how old horses and show hunters were kept fat, you'd just put a garbage can in the corner of the stall and dump a sack of all in one in and free feed them on it. Sometimes you'd pour some corn oil over it. Ah the old days
            Do you remember what the all in one consisted of? Was it similar to chaffhaye?

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              Just looked up chaffhaye and the nearest dealer is 35 miles away over a $6.75 toll bridge. I think that qualifies as literally A Bridge Too Far.
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                And I bet if you drove all that way your horse wouldn't even like the chaffhaye. Mine hate that kind of stuff and they are chowhounds, You are out west - surely you can source a really leafy alfalfa in a bale and just let him pick through it and leave the stems. You can donate the stems to younger horses with better teeth.

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                  You can also sweep out the chaff from the bottom of a semi trailer at a hay dealer. Usually about 50-100lbs of alfalfa dust, leaves, and tiny stemmy pieces leftover after the trailer is emptied. Basically, all the stuff your horse LOVES to eat and what he pushes his hay around to snuffle off the floor. It can be dusty, but you can wet it down.
                  “A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it.”
                  ? Albert Einstein

                  ~AJ~

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                    Originally posted by SusanO View Post
                    And I bet if you drove all that way your horse wouldn't even like the chaffhaye. Mine hate that kind of stuff and they are chowhounds, You are out west - surely you can source a really leafy alfalfa in a bale and just let him pick through it and leave the stems. You can donate the stems to younger horses with better teeth.
                    That's more or less what I'm doing now, except he has a sinus issue (snotty nose) so the snotty damp leftovers aren't really something I can donate :/
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                      Originally posted by tazycat View Post

                      Do you remember what the all in one consisted of? Was it similar to chaffhaye?
                      It was chopped alfalfa with molasses added I think. It was very green and somewhat sticky. Came in a 50 pound bag and smelled like heaven. I have never had a horse that needed it but I kept a bag and added a tiny bit to my horses grain since he loved it so..

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                        We had a thread a few years back about a mini pony who needed to be fed only alfalfa leaves. Soaked cubes or pellets wouldn't work for some reason. The owner built a alfalfa deleafer out of something that looked kinda like a chili roaster, and there was a video of it in action. Pop a flake in, give it a spin (it might have even been powered?) and TA-DA you got yourself a pile of alfalfa leaves.

                        Ghazzu do you remember that? The poster wouldn't tell us what was wrong with the pony, but IIRC you had a guess.

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                          Sounds vaguely familiar. Might possibly have been right dorsal colitis.
                          "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                          ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                            Can you buy peanut hay? It has a lot of leaves and is similar to alfalfa.
                            There must be some commercial deleafing machines around.

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                              Not sure why you want just alfalfa leaves but the alfalfa I'm getting right now is very leafy and the horses (for their main course) snuffle it around on the floor of stall and eat ONLY the leaves. Leaves fall right off stalks, which they save for later for their second course.
                              "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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                                Marla my horse has tooth issues.

                                Can't get peanut hay WildandWicked.

                                I think on reflection that it's easier just to feed him TC Senior + oil, and he can mess around with hay for fun.

                                Thanks folks - sometimes there's a reason you can't get a product!
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                                  Well I googled to try to find an alfalfa leaf removing machine and found that people have been trying to develop/invent one for years. Must be hard to strip alfalfa leaves by hand. Can you hire some kids to do it weekly for $?

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                                    Triple Crown has a bagged, chopped product- Alfalfa forage Blend- chopped to 2 inch average- mostly alfalfa with orchard and timothy.
                                    "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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                                      We have a boarder who had a metal screen in a wooden frame made that could sift out the alfalfa leaves for her elderly horse., The leaves would fall through the 1/4" or so holes in the screen. (Hardware cloth screen, like you might use to wrap around pipes entering your house to keep rodents out.) Pop the frame over a clean trash can, scrape the hay around on it, and collect the yum. Labor intensive, but it worked.

                                      Alfalfa and Molasses aka "A&M" is still available out here on the west coast: http://www.rombergmill.com/products-1.html

                                      This stuff is what kept all the TB's going back in the day, and yes, some of them were free-fed with a bag of it in their feeder all the time.

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                                        Originally posted by Miss Motivation View Post
                                        Alfalfa and Molasses aka "A&M" is still available out here on the west coast
                                        Thats the stuff! Closest dealer is 5 hours away tho. Darnit.

                                        It’s ok. Since I gave up and just gave the Decrepit One a bucket of TC Senior and 8 squirts of APF each day (and loads of alf and grass hay to gnaw on) he’s a fire breathing dragon and we can barely go 5 minutes without a squealy head fling and a buck-snort-in-place, so frankly any more sugar and I think we’re all in trouble!

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