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    #61
    Yes, improvement! It's hard to say just how much, as the stuff on the ground is hiding a few things. Could he have brought the toe and heels back more? Maybe, maybe not. It looks like he could have, but again, without seeing the sole view, hard to know.

    If there aren't shoes, I'd like to see a rocker put on, as that would move the breakover back farther than what he may have been able to do in the horizontal directly.

    I wouldn't go more than 4-5 weeks before the next trim, since it still appears things need to move back even more. If he's barefoot, even 3-4 weeks.
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      #62
      They are already looking a heck of a lot better.

      I agree to have more frequent trimmings while you get things back under control.
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        #63
        Wow, I have 3 COTHers telling me my horse's foot is going in the right direction, and one is JB. That is pretty cool.

        After the trim, these shoes were glued on.
        https://www.easycareinc.com/our_shoe...rformance.aspx

        Horse feels really good in these (I feel like I am seeing increasing improvements over time). The idea is to do 3-4 cycles of glue ons, then try to transition to bare. I will keep you guys posted. New farrier confirms appts by text and shows up early. And she is very sweet with my horse.

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          #64
          Very cool I can't wait to see the next improvement!
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            #65
            Originally posted by Ganesha View Post
            Wow, I have 3 COTHers telling me my horse's foot is going in the right direction, and one is JB. That is pretty cool.

            After the trim, these shoes were glued on.
            https://www.easycareinc.com/our_shoe...rformance.aspx

            Horse feels really good in these (I feel like I am seeing increasing improvements over time). The idea is to do 3-4 cycles of glue ons, then try to transition to bare. I will keep you guys posted. New farrier confirms appts by text and shows up early. And she is very sweet with my horse.
            Please give some feed back on these shoes. I was thinking of trying them after Dexter's surgical foot had grown out. The nail ons though because of his over striding rear. He tends to knock glue ons off. I have found anyone who has used them.

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              #66
              Hi SecondStar. Well, I've not got enough experience with them so far to say much. I do know that glueing them on is quite a production. It has to be very carefully done so they stay put. My horse used to pull shoes but he stopped after I switched farriers (two farriers ago).

              I like these, they've stayed in in mud, water, hacking, schooling in the arena. Plus I don't have to pick the front feet! He's happy in them. I call them his Air Jordans.

              My farrier suggests no baths or fly spray the day before or day of doing the glue ons. They cure in about 90 seconds, but per her advice I leave him inside for the night for them to fully finish curing. So it requires a little thought (don't forget no baths or fly spray day ahead) and planning (ride him before farrier comes because he'll be in the rest of that day). But it has been worth it. I'd rather do all that and know they stay on, than be relaxed about prep and worry the whole time that he'll lose a shoe.

              I think you can do a lot with the glue to sculpt extra support. I do know you need an expert/someone super experienced, or they tend to come off.

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                #67
                Good update, my COTH friends! Horse is moving better and better, using himself more, and seems freer through his shoulders. My farrier just did his feet. He still has glue ons in front and bare hinds.

                One of his shoes had just fallen off two days before, so she did that foot first. She said 'watch this!' and she grabbed the edge of his sole and slowly pulled. Out popped this perfectly formed large dome with a V in the middle where the frog sits. At which point I was torn between 'gross' and 'cool.' What it left was a rather perfectly gently cupped looking sole and she starting raving about the fantastic concavity. Then she did the other foot - grasped an edge, pulled, and same thing.

                Then she did some rasping, made some happy muttering noises about toes and heel platform, and popped up and said he's ready to go barefoot if I'm ready. Wow. This is the moment I've been waiting for, but I balked. I'm not emotionally ready for the next change. So - she redid the glue ons, and we agreed that I'll take some time to prep myself mentally for a change, and then probably go bare next time. She seems super confident about the transition.

                However, it eases my mind that he showed no soreness when he lost his front shoe. It was off two days. I didn't ride but he was not ouchy or tentative AT ALL in turnout, walking down a hard road, or on concrete barn aisles. He strode out evenly and even boldly. He even did a little happy springy trot / jog back to the barn and I had to check him. She estimates it will only be a week of transition time for him. God that would be wonderful, if so. His happy dance made me think of the time I asked my former farrier to pull his hinds and he quite literally pranced away from the appointment and *immediately* moved better. Who knows, maybe he's just waiting for me to finally take the rest of his shoes off?

                I guess we'll see. I'll be trying to build up my courage for next time.

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                  #68
                  Good to hear some good news. Those original feet looked pretty bad. You may want to consider hoof boots for your transition period - especially if you trail ride out on harder surfaces than you have at your barn. I've had the best luck with Renegades. I bet your new trimmer can help you. She sounds like a keeper.

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                    #69
                    Yipee! Great update! I hope we get some updated pictures too
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