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  • Adequan IM vs IV

    Hello -

    My barn manager got a really good deal on Adequan from the vet (i guess there is such a thing as bulk discount), and it has finally made it affordable for me to give it a shot.

    So I have 2 questions:

    1. Is there a difference between giving Adequan IM vs IV. The recommendations is IM, but the barn managers has always done IV. Not sure if there are medical reasons for the IM recommendation or not.

    2. Will the Adequan be useful at all if I don't do the loading dose? Can a horse simply be put on the once a month maintenance dose or is that really just pointless without a loading cycle.

    Thanks in advance.

  • #2
    It won't hurt anything to only give it once a month without the loading dose but it most likely won't help either. I can not think of one single reason why you would give it IV.
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    • #3
      we have always given it im, i have never heard of anyone giving it iv before.

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      • #4
        I've only heard of giving Adequan IM or IA. If you go to their product website, that's all i see referenced as well.

        http://www.luitpold.com/animal_healt...quine_faqs.pdf

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Laurierace View Post
          It won't hurt anything to only give it once a month without the loading dose but it most likely won't help either..
          Why not? (Not trying to be argumentative, just curious.)

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          • #6
            Because research has shown that the loading dose is needed in order for the drug to do its job. I don't know the mechanism of how the drug does its job but I believe there is more to it than the company wanting us to buy 7 doses instead of one. If one did the trick everyone would be shouting that from the rooftops telling people not to waste their money on the loading dose.
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            • #7
              This is NOT an IV drug. Your BM must be thinking of Legends.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by EqTrainer View Post
                This is NOT an IV drug. Your BM must be thinking of Legends.
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                • #9
                  I've never heard of Adequan IV before either. I've used it in the past on an older gelding who is no longer with us. I did the loading dose twice over a span of about 2 years. The initial loading dose worked well and I continued with a one mo. shot. I will admit, the one month turned into 6 weeks (roughly) and I ended up doing a 2nd loading dose several months after the first one. If I were to do it again, I would do the loading dose initially and feel if I only started with the one shot/month, I would be wasting my $$.
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                    #10
                    thanks for the responses. it definitely caught me a little off gaurd and sounded strange, but I didn't know if anyone had heard of doing it IV before.

                    looks like i'll be sticking to my gut.

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                    • #11
                      Actually, a vet friend of mine has done it IV, so it's not 100% off the wall, but even she tells people to give it IM.
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                      • #12
                        the 7 day loading dose was what was tested to have the most uptake into the cartilage which is where it's targeted.

                        that's why the loading dose
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                        • #13
                          OK, so after the loading dose, is 1 per month adequate? Is this stated by the company? Or if not 1 x per month what do you do?

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                          • #14
                            I think the company suggests just doing the loading dose, but whether this is because it's what's been tested or because of the biochemistry, I'm not sure.
                            Vets I've spoken to have suggested mostly doing the loading dose, doing a dose in a week when you have a big competition, and repeating the loading dose (so, rather than 1x a month for 6 months, do a loading dose, wait several months, do another loading dose).
                            Opinions vary, though!
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                            • #15
                              The only thing that has been tested and proven to be helpful is the loading dose. Vets don't really know what to recommend as far as how often to give as the information simply isn't out there.

                              Some people swear by doing one shot each month and say that that's what has helped their horse. Some people do one shot every other week. Some people do one of the above along with the loading dose once every year. I've heard of some vets suggesting to try the loading dose and then simply doing the loading dose again when needed (or loading dose 2x a year / every six months) as it is proven to do something.

                              I've seen Adequan given IV but it's most commonly done IM.
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                              • #16
                                I do the loading dose quarterly but my horse is a 20 yr. old GP schoolmaster. At a minimum, I would do it twice a year. I do not do the monthly shot, only the full series of 7. While I give Adequan IM, my vet will "boost" with Adequan IV just prior to a competition but this is done in addition to the 7 series twice a year.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by workinggirl View Post
                                  OK, so after the loading dose, is 1 per month adequate? Is this stated by the company? Or if not 1 x per month what do you do?
                                  Entirely depends on your horse.

                                  there are folks who tell you they can feel the difference after 3-4 weeks, so give another shot.

                                  Others do the loading dose twice a year.

                                  There is no research on maintenance for this, so you have to do what works best for that horse.
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                                  • #18
                                    I can't remember where but I saw an article citing a study that found that once the loading dose is completed, only weekly Adequan will provide any continual benefit to the horse... and, they found that once a month does nothing. I will search around to see if I can find the study info.

                                    As for the reason some people choose to inject Adequan IV instead of IM... some people feel that needles in the neck muscle makes a horse's neck sore (not out of the realm of possibility... I imagine that a large needle sunk into anyone's muscle could to lead to some soreness) and so they choose to give it in the vein (less soreness effect).

                                    That said, speaking for myself, I have never given it IV, nor am I sure it has the same efficacy when injected that way vs. in the muscle.
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by asterix View Post
                                      I think the company suggests just doing the loading dose, but whether this is because it's what's been tested or because of the biochemistry, I'm not sure.
                                      Vets I've spoken to have suggested mostly doing the loading dose, doing a dose in a week when you have a big competition, and repeating the loading dose (so, rather than 1x a month for 6 months, do a loading dose, wait several months, do another loading dose).
                                      Opinions vary, though!
                                      This is what I do. Then I end up doing a loading dose about 2x a year. This is on a 17 yo TB who still competes in upper level jumpers though. I definitely notice a difference after he has the 1 shot and about halfway through the loading dose.

                                      I don't believe the label indicates anything other than a loading dose though.

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                                      • #20
                                        I used Adequin twice a year IM. Once when the weather got cold and again when it got hot. My old horse was arthritic and the weather change bothered him, one inj helped him get through the month of weather change.
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