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  • Toughening up thin/sore soles?

    Which is the best for temporary relief from footsoreness on my shod horse until my farrier can come out in a couple days. I plan to either put an easy boot on or diaper/ductape.


    Here's what I have at the barn:
    Animalintex hoof pad
    Icthamal
    Epsom salt poultice
    Sugar/betadine

    What is going to be best for this issue? thoughts?
    Last edited by LookinSouth; Apr. 10, 2010, 06:01 PM.

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    Boots with pads inside, provided they fit correctly and don't rub the heels. Anything that makes the sole wet and soggy can increase pain because the sole becomes weak and flexible the more moisture is held against it. I've seen this a lot with horses that live in pads and packing. The sole over time just gets thinner and weaker.

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      #3
      Barefoot is NOT an option for my horse. He is 19, has been in shoes his whole life and I intend to keep it that way. We are in NE and it is ROCKY. My question was not at all related to boots versus shoes. My question was related to TEMPORARY relief from footsoreness. If your not going to even remotely answer my question why even bother to respond?

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      • #4
        Whoa settle down. I never said a THING about boots vs. shoes, or barefoot. You must have read a different post, but you certainly did not read mine.

        YOU said (and I quote) "I plan to either put an easy boot on...."

        THAT is why I said that boots with pads inside can be a good option for protecting sore feet. I was agreeing with what YOU already stated.

        Where did I mention shoes being a problem? I said that I've seen horses get very thin/weak soles when they live in pads all the time. I was using that as an example of how a constantly wet sole tends to get weaker and more flexible. I said this primarily because the Animalintex pads need to be WET and they do hold a lot of water against the sole, keeping the sole WET.

        There was nothing in your post telling me your horse has been shod for 19 years and that barefoot is not an option. For all I knew, the horse was barefoot. You did not specify. I can't really comment on your other proposed action plans because I haven't used them much.

        Sheesh. People wonder why these hoof threads turn into train wrecks. People get WAY too defensive for no reason.

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        • #5
          For soft, mushy, thrusy soles Durasole will dry them out and toughen them up. It is a quick fix in the sense that trim and management should be assessed as well, of course.

          While you're waiting for the farrier, I'd head to Home Depot and buy a sheet of styrafoam insulation. You can cut out homemade pads, vet wrap them on, then throw duct tape on top. Keep horse in deeply bedded stall.

          I probably wouldn't put anything gooey inside at this point unless you can clean and re-wrap at least daily. If you can, then try some of that green epsom poultice goo. I've also used antiphlogistine though that stuff is a PITA when its cold.
          We couldn't all be cowboys, so some of us are clowns.

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          • #6
            When I took my TB barefoot I used Sore no More poltice. It work amazingly well he would go from very ouchy one day then I would poltice for 24 hrs and he would bee so much better. I polticed every other day and it just worked wonders I was sooo impressed.

            I slathered the bottom and half way up the walls with the poltice then placed a large square of wet paper feed bag on that then a layer of cotton batting on the bottom. Then a layer over vet wrap and a duct tape bootie over it to keep it 'wear proof'. Granted it you had a hoof boot you could forgot the duct tape. It lasted for atleast 24 hours and when I pulled it off the poltice was still damp.

            It not only helped relieve the pain/draw out the bruising but hardened them really really well.

            I also used it when he would pull a shoe and would be sore. I love me some Sore no more. Its not on your list but figured I'd suggest it anyway. =)
            --Luck is what happens when preparedness meets opportunity--

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              #7
              Originally posted by Auventera Two View Post
              Sheesh. People wonder why these hoof threads turn into train wrecks. People get WAY too defensive for no reason.

              pot meet kettle. At any rate I apologize for jumping the gun. I took your opinion of pads and recommendation to use boots with pads as a recommendation to lose the shoes. I did not realize that I neglected to mention he is in shoes. I edited my post for clarification.

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              • #8
                I don't know what to tell you except what I had to do with my Polish Arab. He was footsore and even in shoes he was tender footed. My shoer put neoprene wedge pads on him and he started to do much better. He put something on the foot before he put the pads on him. then he put the shoes on like he always did.
                He traveled well after that. Even out on the trails. I had to have him back to reset them in 2 months and the shoer was pleased with the way his feet had grown out and how his soles had grown in tougher.
                I went ahead and had the pads left on him for another 2 months and he seemed to do better yet.
                I was giving him some suppliments for good feet and strong hooves. I saw a difference after about 3 months. He was always a bit tender footed. But at least it made it better to go out on the trails. He liked that more than anything.
                I hope you find a way to solve your horses problem. You might want to do some research on the subject.
                Wish you the best.
                sadlmakr







                Originally posted by LookinSouth View Post
                pot meet kettle. At any rate I apologize for jumping the gun. I took your opinion of pads and recommendation to use boots with pads as a recommendation to lose the shoes. I did not realize that I neglected to mention he is in shoes. I edited my post for clarification.

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                • #9
                  Farrier trimmed several horses too short in the barn, and all were footsore. I had a tub of Magic Cushion handy. We packed everyone's feet and they were so much better the next day. Pricey, but when your horse won't walk out of the stall in the pm and saunters out the next morning all perky - well worth it.
                  pace, path, balance, impulsion and ??

                  Don't panic! Ralph Leroy Hill

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                  • #10
                    Magic Cushion for the short term and Durasole for the long term.

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                    • #11
                      Which is the best for temporary relief from footsoreness on my shod horse until my farrier can come out in a couple days. I plan to either put an easy boot on or diaper/ductape.
                      It depends on if he got sore right after a shoeing ,or has been shod a while and was fine then suddenly got sore.
                      If that is the case, it is likely a shoeing error such as a close nail or sole pressure. If that is the scenario, nothing will help much until the shoes are pulled and the problem identified and corrected.

                      If he was fine for a while after the last shoeing (many days or weeks) then suddenly got sore you need to know why because the first aide will differ. If it is just one foot, it could be an abscess or sole bruise. In that case, I would poultice the foot with the ichthamol and a good wrap over the shoe.

                      If it is BOTH front feet, or all 4, and it came on suddenly after he was fine for a while then suspect laminitis and get him in some taped on Styrofoam or other dense foam support ASAP until the farrier and vet gets there. You can put the foam right on over the shoes and it will compress into form and support the foot.
                      Patty Stiller CNBBT,CNBF,CLS, CE
                      Natural Balance Certified Lameness Specialist ,instructor.
                      www.hoofcareonline.com

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                      • #12
                        Magic Cushion is good stuff.

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                        • #13
                          I also agree with the Magic Cushion. Great stuff.
                          <3 Vinnie <3
                          1992-2010
                          Jackie's Punt ("Bailey") My Finger Lakes Finest Thoroughbred

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Patty Stiller View Post
                            It depends on if he got sore right after a shoeing ,or has been shod a while and was fine then suddenly got sore.

                            Became sore several weeks after shoeing. It is appears to be only in the left front. I suspect it is because I had the farrier leave off his leather pads for one shoeing because his paddock was muddy and he had been in pads all winter. Was hoping to give the foot a chance to breathe at bit? My barn shortly thereafter added gravel to his paddock to address the mud issue. The mud is now gone but there are some good sized stones mixed in there. My guess is the gravel in his paddock combined with the lack of pads is causing sole soreness. He is very thin soled. He isn't noticeably lame except on a tight circle but is reactive in the sole with testers, very reactive. Vet has already been out which is when we discovered the foot soreness. She did not suspect absess and didn't find any noticeable bruising. She & my farrier already have a plan of action for him but I was looking for something temporary for a few days to prevent further irritation until my farrier comes on Tuesday. I put venice turpentine on today; all 4's. Would Icthamal and wrapping be better for the sore foot? I can do that tommorrow if need be..

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                              #15
                              Has anyone tried the Magic cushion in conjunction with leather pads? If so, thoughts?

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                              • #16
                                As to the Venice turpentine vs ichthammol, in my experience for these kind if issues the ichthamol under a wrap works a bit better because it will also draw any potential minute sole abscess that may be brewing.
                                Sometimes with a good stone bruise on thin soles they can get a sole abscess. Ichthamol toughens soles pretty good too, as it draws.
                                Patty Stiller CNBBT,CNBF,CLS, CE
                                Natural Balance Certified Lameness Specialist ,instructor.
                                www.hoofcareonline.com

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                                • Original Poster

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Patty Stiller View Post
                                  As to the Venice turpentine vs ichthammol, in my experience for these kind if issues the ichthamol under a wrap works a bit better because it will also draw any potential minute sole abscess that may be brewing.
                                  Sometimes with a good stone bruise on thin soles they can get a sole abscess. Ichthamol toughens soles pretty good too, as it draws.

                                  thank you. I will Icthamol and wrap tommorrow, I would hate for an absess to brew

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Auventera Two View Post
                                    Magic Cushion is good stuff.
                                    On wheat, white or rye? With or without fries?

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                                    • #19
                                      Someone sent me this webpage recently, has lots of products on it.

                                      http://www.hawthorne-products.com/in...=23150&count=1
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by LookinSouth View Post
                                        Barefoot is NOT an option for my horse. He is 19, has been in shoes his whole life and I intend to keep it that way. We are in NE and it is ROCKY. My question was not at all related to boots versus shoes. My question was related to TEMPORARY relief from footsoreness. If your not going to even remotely answer my question why even bother to respond?

                                        I have a horse who I am reconditioning...we decided to leave his back shoes off for a while just to be "feet"....

                                        Here's what my vet told me to do to toughen up soles.
                                        .1. Make eposom salt solution with LOTS of espsom salt...soak feet for 15 minutes....this solution (like I said, a big amout of salt) will actually help callous the feet.

                                        2. After feet have dried...squirt strong iodoine on the feet, careful not to get on the frog area.

                                        3. Bute 2xs a day for 3 days.(for my horse...it was 2 grams twice a day because he is big)..then lower dose in half for 3 days.

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