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    Banamine IM injection

    My vet just told me yesterday that Banamine should never be given IM because of a potential chlostridial infection. Has anyone ever heard this before?

    Yes, had it happen to a mare of mine from a banamine shot I gave her. It was a mess to clear up.


      If you do a search you will come up with some discussions on this, I believe one had some pictures which in and of themselves would keep me from ever risking it.

      If you can't give IV, it works just great orally.


        Someone posted a photo of an infected IM Banamine site here on COTH awhile back. It was hideous - looked like filletted fish filled with pus...yikes!


          If you search a little, you'll find disgusting pictures at The Horse, which is one of the articles and pictures referenced in that thread

          ZERO reason to do IM Banamine. As mentioned, if you can't do it IV, it works as well orally as it does IM.
          The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET


            This is why the IM label was removed several years ago. Just not worth it.

            ETA: I just checked the flunixin on my truck. Apparently the IM label is back. I still won't do it IM, but I wanted to correct my above error.
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              Not worth the risk, just give it orally.


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                I just got on the Banamine site and it still says iv or im for horses with a rare occurrence of chlostridial infections if im and a rare occurence of anaphylactic shock if iv. I guess you're taking a chance either way!


                  I have given it IM without problems but quit that about 4 yrs ago.

                  I still give it IV but also give it orally.
                  You can squirt it into the mouth and it will work for horses who don't hold still for shots.


                    Can it be given oral?


                      There's a Banamine paste you can buy if you are not comfortable doing IV shots isnt there? Ive never used it as I have no problem doing IV shots but Im sure Ive heard of it being available

                      And yeah - from everything I have heard, read and seen - Banamine IM is a huge no-no ...

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                        No IM injections.

                        Orally was taught to me at the Univ of Fl years ago. They say it works well, and since I do it that way I can say it does.

                        Not worth the chance to do it IM. Ever.


                          Oh wow. I used to give Banamine IM injections in an absolute pinch and never heard a word against it from my vets. I guess I got very lucky. Very scary.
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                            The same dose you'd give IM can be given PO (orally)...just remove the needle after drawing from the bottle and give like you would a dewormer.

                            It's acts almost as quickly and with ZERO risk of the bacterial complications.

                            I will not give banamine in any other way than IV or PO. There is no good reason to take the IM risk.
                            A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

                            Might be a reason, never an excuse...


                              Here's a confirmatory blog entry (!) from U of Ontario/Guelph.
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                                The part that I didn't understand was why it happened with Banamine and not with vaccines. After all, vaccines have to be given IM. The blog did mention that it can happen with vaccines. Maybe the Bananmine is just more irritating than things like Adequan?


                                  skyy, it's been discussed here many times

                                  It's not about the injection. It's about *what* is being injected. The banamine chemical compound lends the situation more to a clostridial infection developing.

                                  The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET


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                                    Sorry, I should have searched before asking. My bad.


                                      Originally posted by skyy View Post
                                      The part that I didn't understand was why it happened with Banamine and not with vaccines. After all, vaccines have to be given IM. The blog did mention that it can happen with vaccines. Maybe the Bananmine is just more irritating than things like Adequan?
                                      I have seen a clostridium infection from vaccine. But its the only time I've ever seen it.

                                      I have seen several clostridium infections from Banamine and they are UGLY! There is no reason what so ever to give Banamine IM. You can give the injectable form orally if you don't feel comfortable giving it IV.

                                      Those infections are one of the worst things I've dealt with at the clinic. And the horses are normally in lots of pain.
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                                        There are many people that have no idea about this, and I know many many people that have no problem giving it IM including vets. Personally not worth the risk for me when giving it orally works just as well in the same time frame.