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  • horse ownership considered abuse by PETA???

    I have a friend who's daughter won't ride anylonger because her daughter got involved with PETA....She said that haltering a horse--owning a horse is abuse---as well as riding it.


    I haven't heard of this..... is her daughter over the top, or are they really this "strict"?
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  • #2
    I think that's their policy, but they're nuts. The modern domesticated horse couldn't live long on it's own, without us.
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    • #3
      Yup. Having pets of any kind is evil and wrong and degrading to animals. So I hope she got rid of her dogs and cats, too.
      Originally posted by tidy rabbit
      Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.


      • #4
        Per PETA - no animal should be subject to being captive in any form.
        ~ Kimberlee


        • #5
          Nope, normal PETA (or more apt, pita) propaganda. Sitting on horses, stabling them, owning them, etc is considered unecessary abusing use of an animal for human entertainment value.
          They should all be *wild and free!*

          Save an animal...eat a PETA.
          You jump in the saddle,
          Hold onto the bridle!
          Jump in the line!


          • #6
            The PETA people are radical and upsetting and offensive---but every now and then, they're right. (But, not about owning and riding horses, imo.) Look them up on the internet and read their principles, just to see where you agree and disagree. It's an eye-opener.

            For example, they are urging that Californians pass a spay/neuter bill for companion animals--a good thing imo. They list cosmetic companies that don't use animal testing--another good thing imo. They advocate that children be taught to treat animals kindly. Nothing wrong with that as far as I can tell.
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            • #7
              PETA is sometimes like the ACLU only they are hardly involved in anything realistic.
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              • #8
                There are PETA people, and then there are *PETA people,* if you know what I mean. PETA is one of those strange organizations that has actually done quite a lot of good for animals, but it does definitely also have its own agenda and lunatic fringe. I used to work with a number of *PETA people* who did ask me if it was cruel to ride a horse, because that was what they had read. I tried to explain that horses generally enjoy being ridden, and that riding is a partnership. But we really didn't have many personal conversations after that.
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                • #9

                  Interesting to read thru.
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                  • #10
                    normal PETA (or more apt, pita) propaganda.
                    Save an animal...eat a PETA
                    Well phooey, that's what I wanted to say

                    I never have had much use for PETA, but I didn't really believe when someone told me awhile back that they actually thought owning a horse was abusive.

                    They must be absolutely ecstatic at all the "horse dumping" (abandonment) that is going these days. Putting the horses back into the wilds and all----never mind that their chances of survival are slim and none

                    Stuff like this makes me glad I'm old. I love, love, love Bucky Covington's song "A Different World". I lived that song and am still around to tell about it ----didn't have PE(I)TA back then either. I sense the need to "step away from the soap box"


                    • #11
                      Yes. That's PETA for ya.
                      THey also liken breeding to slavery practices where one horse was "put with" another horse for the purpose of procreating for "profit". Poor horses had no choice who they bred or didn't breed, and when "the act" was done, they were seperated and no longer saw each other.

                      Also fish in aquariums...inhumane.


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LisaW-B View Post
                        PETA is one of those strange organizations that has actually done quite a lot of good for animals, but it does definitely also have its own agenda and lunatic fringe.
                        Make no mistake, PETA has occasionally done (or created the impression that they have done) 'good' things, but that is only to try to appear mainstream in the hope of getting more bucks from unknowing animal lovers. Plain and simple, they are extremists, opposed to all forms of animal 'use' whether eating, research, riding, or owning a dog or cat or guinea pig or whatever. Ditto HSUS.

                        PETA in fact willfully causes the deaths of animals to try to make political points. Mind you I do have friends who are card carrying PETA members (and who are somewhat in denial about the 'real' agenda)- but the organization is awful. Ditto HSUS. Ditto Fund for Animals. None of these will ever see a penny of my money!


                        • #13
                          I take an Animal Behavior class as an elective at my high school, and we recently began talking about PETA. They really are a little bit nuts when it come to certain things. Its proven that a horse does not live as long when it is in the wild, so having a horse live longer is cruel?

                          I love the thing about fish in aquariums. Hahaha


                          • #14
                            PETA is a bunch of dysfunctional, stark staring bonkers nutters.

                            Ordinarily if their members had an additional brain cell, they could apply to become a cabbage.

                            And I really must stop mincing my words, and just come out and say what I think.


                            • #15
                              Its scary what PETA believes...but it seems like so many of their members own dogs or cats...

                              Isn't that against the rules? I have a hard time supporting Carrie Underwood since she too is a PETA member...
                              Only two emotions belong in the saddle: One is a sense of humor. The other is patience.


                              • #16
                                These people set farm raised mink free to fend for themselves. They can't. They were run over by cars are killed by other animals and starved to death. Yup that is humane.

                                They took dogs from a shelter and killed and dumped them in a dumpster under the guise of "adopting them out". Right that is humane.

                                They don't want anyone to own any animals.


                                • #17
                                  While I think PETA has many WACKOS in it... GO "people eating tasty animals"... lets at least have our facts straight before we go bashing them. Again NOT a PETA fan, I'm much more into animal welfare than animal rights and despite what PETA says horses need us in today's world.

                                  "How does PETA feel about horseback riding?

                                  When there is a respectful, loving bond between horse and human, then horseback riding is as much an act of companionship and exercise as walking one’s dog. However, just as we oppose the use of "choke" collars on dogs, we also oppose the use of whips, spurs, and other devices that cause discomfort and pain to horses.

                                  PETA supports humane, interactive training. Just as a dog can be lovingly or abusively house-trained, gentle methods can be employed to teach a horse to allow a rider on his or her back. PETA does not support training methods based on punishment."
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Seal Harbor View Post
                                    They don't want anyone to own any animals.
                                    That's right. Because for every kind, knowledgable owner there's a cruel or ignorant one. The animals have no choice of where they wind up. They are truly slaves at the mercy of their "mastas".

                                    How many dogs and cats are brought to the pounds (if they're lucky) each and every year because people get "tired" of caring for them, get sick of the expense, have no clue that the cute little puppy will grow into a big obnoxious DOG without TRAINING? Millions are slaughtered every year in the US alone. Millions! Thousands of horses suffer the same fate or worse.

                                    And how about "Onco" mice? Animals genetically engineered to develop cancer? Where's the humanity in that?

                                    People believe what suits them and justify their actions, just as slave owners did/do. If you have horses, how can you not believe riding them is a "partnership"? Can you honestly say the TB race horse, the eventer, the reiner, etc, don't exist solely for human entertainment and/or profit?

                                    But ask yourself, what other partnerships do you have where you are allowed, encouraged even, to use whips and spurs on your "partner" to get them to do what you want? S&M freak clubs? At least those folks participate of their own free will.

                                    Until human consciousness is very much raised (and I won't hold my breath - look at the atrocities humans perpetuate on other humans, including their own children), I tend to agree with PETA's stance regarding domestic pets, "Breed none until there are none".


                                    • #19
                                      That's a somewhat extreme view.
                                      There *are* shades of grey in the middle, as with everything in life.
                                      Because some people neglect or abuse their children doesn't mean nobody should ever have a child ever, anywhere.
                                      Because some people neglect or abuse their pets does not mean nobody should own one ever.
                                      A crop and/or spurs when used correctly are not abusive or even painful.
                                      You jump in the saddle,
                                      Hold onto the bridle!
                                      Jump in the line!


                                      • #20

                                        When I'm a (very) old woman, I'll probably join these people. After all, their home office is in California, so my people wouldn't have a long trip to visit me in prison.

                                        Barbaro Cultist, Metabolic Nazi