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Has anyone used "Thrive" feed?

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  • Jo
    started a topic Has anyone used "Thrive" feed?

    Has anyone used "Thrive" feed?

    http://dalemoulton.com/html/thrive.html

  • JB
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    Despite what Dale would have you believe, horses won't die if you add something to Thrive So yes, you can absolutely mix to do the transition. OR, you can drop the Thrive and just transition onto the new feed.

    Yes, the independent testing was done on a sample from the actual feed.

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  • MTS
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    Question JB if you would know, I'm not sure how to go about switching. I presume it would be 24 hours hay only and then introduce the new feed. I know I cant mix the two together to switch.

    Also, was the independent testing done on the actual feed? Meaning do you send a sample in for testing? Sorry if that is a dumb question.

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  • JB
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    Originally posted by MTS View Post
    I am not sure how 24% nsc was identified so I would be curious to know that as I couldn't see it or figure it out from the bag.
    Independent testing, but I don't remember if it was through Equi-Analytical or another source.

    I have called Dale Moulton a few times and he is very passionate about the feed and helpful.
    He's very passionate for sure, and helpful as long as your questions are superficial. Any question about NSC is met with "It's not a matter of not telling you. The product is processed in a way that makes conventional criteria not applicable." <---- Straight quote from the FB page, from Thrive (aka Dale), in response to someone saying they won't tell you what the NSC is.

    Ask him about alfalfa, and he goes nuts, stating alfalfa spikes blood glucose, destabilizes blood sugar (his words), but that his method of processing it negates all that He loves to tout how it's a grain-free feed, yet there's grain sorghum right in it. He "believes" things into existence.

    I will try to post a pic of my girl but I will say I don't view the feed as a miracle because while on it my girl developed ulcers which I'm in the process of treating her for.
    I'm sure the 24% NSC, while not awfully high, had nothing to do with that

    I was going to switch her off the thrive but didn't want to upset even more of her system by switching feed while trying to deal with her ulcers.
    I absolutely would - there's no way I'd use a 24% NSC feed for a horse with ulcers

    I have an 18 almost 19 yo on triple crown senior and was thinking of switching her to that but I'm afraid to switch her and make it worse but the nsc on tc senior is like 12% or 14% which is much better.
    It's 11.7% and would be loads better - half the NSC, and infinitely better nutrition - more, and balanced. Nothing about Thrive is balance.

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  • MTS
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    I purchased a yearling in 2015 and when I got her put her on thrive. To me when I got her she was thin looking and needed some meet on her bones. I switched her to thrive as instructed, hay only for 24 hours then started feeding her. She looked better over time but she is still not plump but I don't want her fat and vet said her condition is good, although I would like to see her with more weight. I feed her about 3lbs each feeding (6lbs/day). Had my vet look at it and the fat content is low at 2.5% so I've added rice bran oil to her feed to help. I am not sure how 24% nsc was identified so I would be curious to know that as I couldn't see it or figure it out from the bag. I have called Dale Moulton a few times and he is very passionate about the feed and helpful. I will try to post a pic of my girl but I will say I don't view the feed as a miracle because while on it my girl developed ulcers which I'm in the process of treating her for. I was going to switch her off the thrive but didn't want to upset even more of her system by switching feed while trying to deal with her ulcers.

    I'm not convinced it's the thrive feed, but I don't want to ignore it and that is why I was curious where the 24% nsc came from as its higher than I would want her on. I have an 18 almost 19 yo on triple crown senior and was thinking of switching her to that but I'm afraid to switch her and make it worse but the nsc on tc senior is like 12% or 14% which is much better. She loves her feed now but I just want to make sure she gets better and the feed isn't contributing to her ulcer. She is boarded so the hay is not always the greatest quality so I buy my own to supplement it and she gets an alfalfa pellet lunch most days. She is not in a grass pasture and its not an option where I'm at so I know that isn't ideal either. TIA

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  • JB
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    How much of each was fed?

    Thrive is about 24% NSC. It may contain ingredients your horse is sensitive/allergic to.

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  • aberman
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    Anyone experience negative changes in transitioning your horse to Thrive?

    Website indicates changes can be seen one week to 21 days after beginning Thrive, but implies only positive changes. Previously fed Legends CarbCare Show/Pleasure.

    Large disclaimer first -- my observations could be totally unrelated to feeding Thrive feed, hence why I am seeking other's experiences.
    Not every horse may respond the same to every feed option.

    Still within first two weeks of feeding Thrive, and noticed sudden temperament change (increased irritability), drop in performance, energy, with dullness responsiveness in arena, with increased sensitivity to brushing. No lameness, no history of ulcer. No Lyme's history but a pasture mate was treated for Lyme in Sept.

    My question is -- anyone else experience such changes early on with this feed?

    Thanks!

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  • cutter99
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    Originally posted by tazycat View Post
    Hasn't changed obviously not getting new opinions. wouldnt touch that feed with a ten foot pole. Just like some of nutrenas feeds and purina feeds.

    Edited to add. ....read link for feeding directions... the people who make this feed are idiots.
    Pot meet kettle...

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  • JB
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    Sheesh, it's only been a day!

    The feeding directions have nothing to do with the quality of the people who designed it. It says to start at 4lb for a 1000lb horse and adjust accordingly, which is right in line with the majority of "normal" feeds out there.

    Now, the "testimonial" as to its safety with the horse who ate 3 bags of it, well, either they are lying (or misinformed) and he didn't actually eat ALL of that, or the horse is pretty lucky, as NO feed that is 24% NSC is safe to eat in that amount for any horse other than one who won the lottery that day. But that is not how you're supposed to feed it.

    There are plenty of reason to dislike it AND like it as a feed. I know a few horses who are doing well on it. I know many horses who are doing well on many other feeds. I know other horses who have done poorly on Thrive AND many other feeds INCLUDING one of the best out there, TC Sr.

    As a feed, there's nothing inherently wrong with it. There's a lot wrong with what it's claimed to be, it's not fortified, it's not balanced, there's nothing magical about the ingredients OR how they're processed, but there's also nothing wrong with the ingredients or how they're processed. There's nothing more wrong with this product than feeding corn, oats, and molasses (which is what you've stated you like to do) and there's a lot about it that's better than that. Stating that "healthy horses don't need supplements" tells me the owner is really clueless about what horses actually need and why, but again, that alone does not make this a bad product. Dale is utterly clueless about how the feral horse exists, stating there is no such thing as Cushing's or IR horses out there, and all but outright stating that captivity created those things. Uh-huh.

    If it works for you and your horse, go for it.

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  • tazycat
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    Originally posted by diceuf View Post
    I know that. That's why I asked for NEW opinions.
    Hasn't changed obviously not getting new opinions. wouldnt touch that feed with a ten foot pole. Just like some of nutrenas feeds and purina feeds.

    Edited to add. ....read link for feeding directions... the people who make this feed are idiots.
    Last edited by tazycat; Jan. 13, 2017, 07:05 PM.

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  • diceuf
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    I know that. That's why I asked for NEW opinions.

    Originally posted by tazycat View Post
    This thread is 8 years old if you didn't look at the date/ year.

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  • JB
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    This thread is 8 years old if you didn't look at the date/ year.

    It was also reactivated in 2013, and more recently, June 2016.

    I'd much rather see a thread like this revived, then rehashed every year

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  • Laurierace
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    So? It is appropriate to bump a thread to ask for updates instead of starting a new one.

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  • tazycat
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    Originally posted by diceuf View Post
    Any new opinions on the feed??

    This thread is 8 years old if you didn't look at the date/ year.

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  • diceuf
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    Any new opinions on the feed??

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  • Iride
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    Originally posted by vxf111 View Post
    Wow?!
    That is...truly....scary

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  • vxf111
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    Originally posted by Garythesquirrel View Post
    From the Thrive web site:

    "Avalon, pictured on the right, is a big gentle giant. He slept all day after consuming 3 bags or 120 pounds of Thrive Feed he stole one night. He never moved all the next day, then at about 6pm got up, had a drink, and looked for dinner. His actions really highlighted just how safe this product is."

    I don't even know what to say about this statement.

    Wow?!

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  • Garythesquirrel
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    From the Thrive web site:

    "Avalon, pictured on the right, is a big gentle giant. He slept all day after consuming 3 bags or 120 pounds of Thrive Feed he stole one night. He never moved all the next day, then at about 6pm got up, had a drink, and looked for dinner. His actions really highlighted just how safe this product is."

    I don't even know what to say about this statement.

    http://thrivefeed.com/feeding-instructions/

    ETA link
    Last edited by Garythesquirrel; Jul. 1, 2016, 09:21 PM.

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  • JB
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    I've never heard of them - I can take a look at them later.

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  • Iride
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    JB, any knowledge of/experience with Babington Mills feed? (Kevin's line...)

    And anyone else?

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