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WARNING: mycaseptic/neuro reaction

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  • WARNING: mycaseptic/neuro reaction

    I just wanted to give a heads up to those of you who use mycaseptic e to treat thrush.

    I accidentally sprayed some on my horses body last night (the bottle looks just like an anti itch coat spray that I also use). I realized what I had done after I had already sprayed some on his neck, shoulder and wither. The bottle said it may cause skin irritation, so I decided to rinse it off. Within a couple of minutes my horse was seizing and he eventually flipped sidways out of the wash rack. He laid on the ground for a moment and then got up and began trotting around. He could not stop and stand. Every time he slowed down his body began to curl around to the right. He did eventually return to normal function. Aside from a few scrapes and cuts, it think he is fine... although the vet will come out today and give him a once over. I had used this product on his feet in the past without adverse reaction.

    A little googling revealed that exposure to terpenes (the natural compounds in mycaseptic) can cause a central nervous system response.

    So, if you use this stuff, please keep it on the feet... but mine is going in the garbage.

  • #2
    Holy Crap. That must have been horrible! I hope your horse is OK with no lingering effects!

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    • #3
      Damn! Jingles for your horse.

      Personally, I'm all for just bleach and water, especially since I own Mr. Sensitive.
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      • #4
        Thanks for the information, I have passed it along to folks on my local forum

        I know how that can happen. I have picked up the wrong bottle a couple times and went "oh s***!" right when the first spray was coming out of the bottle.

        I hope your horse is much better by now and the vet gives him a clean bill of health with no after effects

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        • #5
          Whoa, that sounds terrifying!

          Is this something that's a commercial brand name product? If so, what is it so I can avoid it? I never use thrush medications but some day I might need to.


          Hope your horse doesn't suffer any lasting effects from this.

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          • #6
            Oh dear! I spray questionable spray bottles on my own palm to test them! It will the wall or floor from here on out! Thanks for the heads up!
            Do not take anything to heart. Do not hanker after signs of progress. Founder of the Riders with Fibromyalgia clique.

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            • #7
              Huh, didn't know that. That's too bad its a real good product. I use either that or CleanTrax or Podi-CIO2. Guess I'll check out the other two now as well to see if they can cause anything like that to happen. Sounds scary for sure.

              I won't use bleach even though effective as it does kill the healthy tissue as well. With thrush thriving on necrotic tissue, you are often feeding the thrush by using bleach. Lots of ppl who use bleach find thrush reoccuring and that is why. I have always loved the mycaseptic E, I will not likely use it again. I will certainly check this out, thanks.

              Very glad your horse came back around and seems to be okay. Jeez, that's so weird, I know so many ppl who use that and have had no trouble. I'll be sure to tell them though. No one needs that going on.

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              • #8
                OMG - you must have been terrified watching all that. Jingles that it was a temporary thing.

                I also hope that whatever is in that stuff doesn't contaminate the ground water from the dump after you put it in the trash.
                There are friends and faces that may be forgotten, but there are horses that never will be. - Andy Adams

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                • #9
                  Wow! Do have your vet document the reaction and report it as an adverse event. That step is key to proving when a product is unsafe and should be pulled from the market.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by short strided View Post
                    I just wanted to give a heads up to those of you who use mycaseptic e to treat thrush.

                    I accidentally sprayed some on my horses body last night (the bottle looks just like an anti itch coat spray that I also use). I realized what I had done after I had already sprayed some on his neck, shoulder and wither. The bottle said it may cause skin irritation, so I decided to rinse it off. Within a couple of minutes my horse was seizing and he eventually flipped sidways out of the wash rack. He laid on the ground for a moment and then got up and began trotting around. He could not stop and stand. Every time he slowed down his body began to curl around to the right. He did eventually return to normal function. Aside from a few scrapes and cuts, it think he is fine... although the vet will come out today and give him a once over. I had used this product on his feet in the past without adverse reaction.

                    A little googling revealed that exposure to terpenes (the natural compounds in mycaseptic) can cause a central nervous system response.

                    So, if you use this stuff, please keep it on the feet... but mine is going in the garbage.
                    Never (ever) use this stuff on bare/sensitive/inflamed skin, anything sensitive, it burns for about ten minutes. Your horse likely felt as if he was on fire, and responded accordingly......and it doesn't rinse off. You let it go its course. This is a great debridement product, and anti-fungal, but does not support ANY deviation from recommended usage. Accidental or not. Sorry but I'm having trouble finding this product which works great, probably because of reviews like this......0.02.

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