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    Ground Flaxseed vs Extruded Soybean vs Rice Bran vs BOSS ???

    What do you use and why?
    Last edited by FatPalomino; Aug. 31, 2009, 10:22 PM.

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    For a fat supplement, I use oil.

    I feed flax (4 oz) for the Omega 3s.
    Rice bran is only 20% fat and is high in starch. It's also about 4x more expensive than vegetable oil.
    I don't know all that much about soybean, but it can't be that high in fat.

    Do you want to feed a fat supplement for weight gain?
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    • #3
      here's a little cheatsheet I compiled - not 100% sure on the BOSS amounts though.

      Feed - %age fat - Calories in max amount recommended per day
      Oil - 100% fat - 2 cups = 4000 calories
      Rice bran - 12-20% fat - 2# = 3200-4800 calories
      BOSS - 25% fat - 2# = 5000 calories
      Flax - 25% fat - 0.5# = 950 calories

      How many calories does your horse need? For a 1000# horse...

      Activity Level - Daily Calories
      Maintenance - Approximately 15,000 calories
      Moderate work - Approximately 25,000 calories
      Heavy work - Approximately 33,000 calories
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      • #4
        Well, flax doesn't really count as a *fat* supplement, since you're very limited in the amount you can feed - 1 cup or so. So while it may contain nice amounts of Omega 3 fatty acid, it's not a "fat" supplement like I think you're intending.

        Boss and rice bran and soybean meal provide much more in the way of fat, and calories, than does rice bran.

        Nice breakdown Xan That looks about right - boss is 2500 cal/lb, but I think rice bran is more like 1200/lb.
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          #5
          Originally posted by Bogie View Post
          Rice bran is only 20% fat and is high in starch. It's also about 4x more expensive than vegetable oil.
          I don't know all that much about soybean, but it can't be that high in fat.
          Then, why would people feed Rice Bran?

          My vet recommended extruded soy for added weight/shine, and it has seemed to make a difference. At 1 cup/day, it lasts a while for a $21/per 50 lb ration.

          I noticed the main ingredient in a lot of the Platinum Performance supplements is soybean oil or flaxseed, hence what got me thinking.

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          • #6
            How about prilled fat? The co-op sells it in 50 lb bags for $50? I think. 100% fat, but dry. Seems pretty palatable.

            I do love the smell and taste of toasted soybean, though. Quite tasty and good for snacking on when you're starving and out feeding the critters.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by FatPalomino View Post
              Then, why would people feed Rice Bran?
              Because some horses object to the texture of oil in their feed. Some horses don't like the taste of oil, and rice bran is very palatable. Some owners object to feeding oil because they find it messy (I don't share that sentiment--my answer to that is "stop pouring it and get a pump"). Some horses already get 2 cups of oil a day, and that is the maximum amount of oil that a horse can digest daily.
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                Originally posted by Simkie View Post
                How about prilled fat? The co-op sells it in 50 lb bags for $50? I think. 100% fat, but dry. Seems pretty palatable.
                Hmm.. what exactly is that? I have to ask them next time I'm there.

                Extruded Soybean (usually instock at Poudre Feeds) is around $20/50 lb and is 45% fat. So far it's working very well

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                • #9
                  Performance Pak, sold at the Co-op place by Centennial. Same thing as Cool Calories, made by the same people, but packaged in a 50 lb bag for cattle people. And a hell of a lot cheaper than Cool Calories, when you work out the dollars per pound.

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                  • #10
                    I was feeding rice bran to Douche Bag for many months. I ran out a month ago and decided not to buy any more. Lo and behold, his psychotic episodes have all but disappeared.

                    He's now getting a cup of ground flax again (I buy whole and grind), for extra calories, hooves, omega 3s, and his gut -- flax has lots of mucilage so helps soothe intestines and may even clear sand. The others will also get some flax in the winter when the grass is dead, for omega 3s.

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                      Originally posted by LarkspurCO View Post
                      I was feeding rice bran to Douche Bag for many months.
                      So glad you've made his name public

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                      • #12
                        Oil vs rice bran - I switched my OTTB mare off 2c oil, onto 2lb rice bran, and she gained weight

                        Some horses just don't do (as) well on oil.
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                          Interesting. I've feed Veg. Oil and never had a horse refuse it- and the dogs love to lick the bowls afterwards.

                          I did a search on BOSS- and couldn't find what I was looking for- is it fed for Omega benefits or ???

                          Simkie- never know they sold that! I'll have to check into it!

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