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BOSS/Flax seed--update from my experiance today

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  • #61
    I can't tell from your tone if you're being facetious. Because, well, you know, we ALL burp even after fabulous meals. Sign o' respect in some countries and all that.

    Anyway, a lot of people I know religously take a couple of fish capsules daily and try not to breathe on anyone later! Never occured to them until I said that's because the oil is rancid. Break open a capsule and do the sniff test. I know I don't burp up nasty fishy taste after eating fresh fish!

    The free radical connection I just read about recently, but it makes sense. Kind of like when you buy oils from costco in the giant container for a couple o' bucks... those are usually processed to be nasty from a molecular standpoint (partially hydrogenated), and they can do serious harm. That's why "cold pressed" gets such good press.

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    • #62
      Yeah, I buy Adequan from my vet. I'm a chump that way. My trainer can get Legend for like 50 bucks a shot, but I do have a hard time trusting something I'm injecting that comes from someone other than a vet...

      So did you see anything other than the dapples happen with the flax?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by throwurheart View Post
        So did you see anything other than the dapples happen with the flax?

        Better hoof quality, better coat, plus I hear that it has natural anti-inflammatories in it (not a vet, so that one is pure hear-say). It's also high in Omega 3 and is a great source of fiber.
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        ~Jilltx~

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        • #64
          jilltx - read back from the beginning, you'll see that I know about the omega-3 in flax

          Where I was going with the question is this: we feed supplements sometimes on faith that it's doing what it's supposed to, and sometimes (preferably!) because we see a real difference.

          The first and easiest change one sees with omega-3 is a shiny coat. Research shows it takes a smaller amount of omega-3 to affect the skin and coat than it does joints, heart, pain relief, etc.

          Fish oil is bioavailable omega-3, flax is not/has a heavy price to pay in waste. Thus, it takes an ounce of fish oil to equal a cup or two of flax oil (which is far more volume in whole seeds). These are the doses that are thought to give full protection, not just coat.

          My point is this: a lot of people on these threads are seeing a beautiful coat, but are they feeding enough to *see* the other benefits rather than assume they're there becuase of the coat? It's a real question, without a pre-judged answer on my part.

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          • #65
            For me, I only really saw, that first time with flax, a super-dapply coat. It was very cool ...

            I can't say I saw or have seen any other change w/flax -- either I'm not very observant, or else my two were not particularly deficient in those areas?? I dunno. But, now that you've attuned me to fish oil (for me and for horses), I'm considering making the switch (for me and for my horses).

            Both of mine are retired and live near our weekend house, so I don't see them on a daily basis, and their coats are a little roughed up by living out.
            And their hooves have never been that bad; they're also subject to so many external conditions, it would be hard to tell if it were the flax or memorex...

            [PS - if it was my previous post you thought was maybe facetious, it wasn't meant to be! ;-< I was just clarifying the role of burping...but now I also see that you were referencing burping relative to fish oil (?)]

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            • #66
              Hmm I feed a small quantity of flax and BOSS (on PNW grown forages) but neither of them for specific Omega issues. Instead I feed the flax for immune system support, and the BOSS as an added source of natural oils. They get around 1/4 cup of flax, and about a half a cup of BOSS a day. They also get a Moorman's product called Grostrong Precise, and I sup with additional Vitamin e as well, since we don't have pasture.

              I wonder how screwed up the selenium is?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by cyberbay View Post
                [PS - if it was my previous post you thought was maybe facetious, it wasn't meant to be! ;-< I was just clarifying the role of burping...but now I also see that you were referencing burping relative to fish oil (?)]
                Cyberbay, no worries!! Not bad to be facetious - I was wondering if you meant it as a "duh" or a "wow" thing.

                Su Valley - Immune support IS an omega thing, as too many omega-6s can contribute to a hyperactive immune system, which is also related to allergies, which is why feeding enough usable omega-3 can cause the fast disappearance of skin bumps ad other weird reactions. Saw this on a pony in my barn. Really big change.

                I feel like an omega nutjob now, but the difference in my life every single day is utterly remarkable. No other word for it. Hard not to spread the word!

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by throwurheart View Post
                  Fish oil is bioavailable omega-3, flax is not/has a heavy price to pay in waste. Thus, it takes an ounce of fish oil to equal a cup or two of flax oil (which is far more volume in whole seeds). These are the doses that are thought to give full protection, not just coat.

                  My point is this: a lot of people on these threads are seeing a beautiful coat, but are they feeding enough to *see* the other benefits rather than assume they're there becuase of the coat? It's a real question, without a pre-judged answer on my part.
                  Yeah but horses don't eat fish out in there pastures. Kinda bothers me a bit to feed herbivores other Animal by-products.

                  As for the coat, I can honestly say I began feeding the sunnieflax because my then yearling lacked any shine despite a good, balanced diet. Within a few months she was slick and shiney with NO OTHER ADDITIONS or changes to her diet. I can say, for me, that the flax and boss made a difference.
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                  ~Jilltx~

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by jilltx View Post
                    Yeah but horses don't eat fish out in there pastures. Kinda bothers me a bit to feed herbivores other Animal by-products.
                    You'd be surprised how many other things are animal by-products that people give their horses- someone posted on one of these threads that chondroitin is made from shrimp shells or something like that. I'm sure biotin is also from a weird source. Who knows.

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                    • #70
                      murphyluv is right, plus the fish oil is NO protein, only fat.
                      Protein is where it gets weird and mad-cowish.

                      Glucosamine is made from shrimp shells
                      Remember shark cartilage and perna mussel?
                      The list is really long of animal by-products being fed to horses...

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                      • #71
                        Hey Horsecrazy, where do you buy your flax seed? I want to get some for my horses and thought since we are in the same area I'd ask you where you're buying it.
                        Thanks,
                        Susan

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