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  • Long Distance Shipping prep?

    I am getting ready to ship a holsteiner gelding from Upperville, VA to Denver, CO.


    Is there anything I should do to help prep him for the trip to make it easier for him?


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    One thing I think you would want to do, is to gradually get him off of any grain and only on hay. Be sure to have enough of his hay to take with him for the trip and to mix with whatever they have at his destination.
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    • #3
      Put some extra weight on him now because he will definitely lose some during his journey. Oil and beet pulp would be a good way to do this, IMO.

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      • #4
        I don't do any "special" preparation for long hauls, just try to keep my horses moving beforehand (they live out 24/7, so not a problem), make sure they're eating and drinking well and have bellies full of hay (mine get only very small amounts of concentrate) and make sure the trailer is clean, well ventilated, and well bedded.

        Mine never drink well on the road, so if it's a really long trip I like to wet the hay down, but I've also shipped them without doing so (longest is from Michigan to Florida) and no problems. Upon arrival I like to put them OUTSIDE and leave them lots of hay, a buddy, and some peace and quiet for half a day or a whole day if possible.
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        • #5
          OP--you just had a recent bad experience with shipping, correct? I don't know of any specific way to prepare other than adding some flavoring to the water ahead of time so it tastes the same to them. You may want to consider a box stall if you can possibly afford it, and I echo not feeding grain for a few days ahead of time.

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            #6
            Originally posted by InstigatorKate View Post
            OP--you just had a recent bad experience with shipping, correct? I don't know of any specific way to prepare other than adding some flavoring to the water ahead of time so it tastes the same to them. You may want to consider a box stall if you can possibly afford it, and I echo not feeding grain for a few days ahead of time.


            I did just have a bad shipping experience so now I am worried. Just trying to avoid another tying up or colic episode after shipping. My Filly still is not right.
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            • #7
              Electrolytes.

              Stopping at night and turning our horses our helped a LOT.

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              • #8
                Definitely a BOX STALL!! If you want to put weight on her now start adding Focus WT as a supplement to her feed. Forget about beet pulp and oil. Beet pulp is zero and corn oil takes too long.

                In one month I have added 200 pounds to my horse who was on beet pulp and corn oil and barley at a trainers. He still has a couple of hundred pounds to add. He is 17-2 so it s big boy, but they about starved him with the beet pulp, oil and barley diet.
                He was 1130 pounds on June 10 and today, July 13 I taped him at 1330!! Just good Pennfield grain, Focus WT, Omega Horseshine, alfalfa hay and pasture for over 12 hours a day.

                Good luck on shipping your horse. Are you doing this yourself or using a professional hauler?? How many hours on the road expected???
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                • #9
                  No grain while on the road, but no need to gradually take them off of it.

                  Get electrolyte powder that you can mix in the water and stat doing that at home a few days before hand and do that while you are on the road. Stop every 4 hours to offer water and give them a rest from balancing in a moving trailer for at least 10 minutes. Tie them in the trailer (if the horse must be tied) in a way so they can put their head down/neck out and cough. I prefer to drive straight through then to stop and make the trip longer and stress the horses out by stabling them in a strange place for a few hours only to load up and move again.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by talloaks View Post
                    Beet pulp is zero and corn oil takes too long.
                    I wouldn't agree.
                    Beet pulp has worked wonders on many rescue horses that needed weight. Because of the high fiber (and that you can make it a soup= extra water) I'd imagine it's a good recommendation for on the road.

                    Oil helps add calories. We feed vegetable oil, because I've been told it's more digestable than corn.

                    We fed our horses some soupy bran mash while on the road. Kept them regular + added some extra water.

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                    • #11
                      What is the rationale behind "no grain for several days" before shipping? I'd want to keep everything as close to "status quo" as possible.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by deltawave View Post
                        What is the rationale behind "no grain for several days" before shipping? I'd want to keep everything as close to "status quo" as possible.

                        When feeding horses all changes should be gradual. For example if your horse is going to CO from VA that is a long way to travel and he should not be fed grain while traveling, just hay and water. I don't know how much you grain your horse so the amount will tell you how long it will take to get him off of it completely. You never change by one half or more at a time, that is why I say gradually. Start reducing by one quarter for a few days and then to a half etc.
                        This April I shipped a yearling filly from VA to BC Canada to a vet and she wanted the filly off of all grain by shipping time. It was a long trip due to bad weather in the middle of the country but the filly arrived in good health although she had lost some weight. Better to loose some weight than colic on the road. A box stall is necessary for them to be able to drop their heads, stretch their necks and be able to cough.
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                          #13
                          yes he will have a box stall.. he is in good weight now. So he should do ok. He also turned out at the moment so only hay and grass - he does not get any grain.


                          The filly I shipped is an OTTB and very nervous so the long trip from PA to Co was brutal on her. She still looks like she just escaped auschwitz.
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                          • #14
                            I've shipped three from CA to NC, 2 commercial and 1 my mom and I trailered. I think status quo is the best. They do lose weight, but I wouldn't want to be a fat horse in a trailer during summer. So unless they're underweight all ready I don't see the point in fattening them up.

                            the one we trailered ourselves was 25+ yrs old, we stopped at overnights and in outdoor pens. He won't drink water on the road, I think I saw him drink three times total, so we fed him soupy beet pulp/ electrolytes/ equine senior three times a day. He also seemed to be soaking his hay in the water-- he kept pooping ok and made it across the country fine.

                            This isn't something you can do right before trailering, but another thing I think helps is physical fitness, they expend so much energy riding in the trailer, I think it helps with the stress and exertion. I know my plane flights across the country are easier in the summer when I've been exercising more. Good luck to your horse and you on the trip.
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                            • #15
                              I have shipped a lot of miles with a lot of horses and ponies...Just have a small bucket of water in front of them 24/7...A horse always ships better if they are in shape, they don't get to sit while on the road..They are working while being hauled...flavoring the water never really helps, my stallion will sometimes drink very little in the trailer, but once we stop and rest for 20 minutes, then he will take a few big gulps...Mostly on long hauls they like to rest, not eat and drink when we stop( that is why a lot of horses lose weight , the big haulers don't give them a lot of time to rest)....Just make sure you get a shipper with a GREAT rep...
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                              • #16
                                I would start gastro/ulcer gard a few days before he ships and continue for the duration of the trip.

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                                • #17
                                  Just moved mine across Canada.

                                  Both horses got a paste pro biotic supplement the day before we left and during the trip to help keep things working in properly. Two hours before we left the vet gave each an IV fluid drip which took about 45 minutes in total. Each were left untied in the trailer (I would recommend this if possible) so that they could cough, keep any discharge moving out and more effectively use their neck to balance. They also both had a small bucket of water in front of them which was completely feasible to do even though they were in a 2-horse straight haul. The gelding drank like nuts and the mare would only drink when we stopped at a gas station etc. And of course, lots of hay. If they hadn't been drinking I would likely have soaked their hay.

                                  Neither one lost any weight and both arrived safe and sound to their new home. I gave them a couple days just to chill and relax and they're both fine I guess it didn't take TOO much out of them as they both went for a play as soon as they were out in the field!
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                                    #18
                                    My boy is on his way!!

                                    Full box stall and untied with all the hay and water he needs.! YAY!
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by EquineLVR View Post
                                      My boy is on his way!!

                                      Full box stall and untied with all the hay and water he needs.! YAY!
                                      Good luck and I hope he has a safe and uneventful trip. Who did you use for hauling??
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                                        Originally posted by talloaks View Post
                                        Good luck and I hope he has a safe and uneventful trip. Who did you use for hauling??
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