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    Who is feeding whole oats?

    And what else are you feeding?

    I've been relying on concentrates to get my guy back up to optimum condition but I'm not terribly happy with things. He drops weight easily, and at the moment, I'm mixing a variety of products to get what I want.

    I don't know much about specific grains etc. though I know many of you guys use them, and build your own feed programs around "whole" products. If you don't mind sharing your experiences, it'd be much appreciated.

    I'm tempted to either put him back on a straight RB or else build my own...
    We couldn't all be cowboys, so some of us are clowns.

    My hard keeping TB did well on 3lbs whole oats, 1 lb Ultimate Finish and 1/2 cup Omega Horseshine twice a day. That was until I moved him to another barn that didn't feed whole oats and he was switched to SafeChoice and promptly lost a lot of weight. He didn't do well on that at all. Now, I'm buying my own feed so I switched over to Triple Crown Complete because it's easier for him to digest and I can feed him less. He has gained about 100lbs and still has more to go.
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      I am also contemplating a switch as my mare has to eat so much concentrate to stay the way she is without getting hot. I have heard whole oats are a good option. I have a friend that has her horse on an "all natural" diet. She gets whole oats, black oil sunflower seeds, triple crown safe starch forage, Omega Horseshine and a vitamin supplement (and I can't remember *what* it is at this early hour!)....Her mare is doing really well on the diet but her mare is also a bit of an air fern! So I'll probably start slowly and see if my mare goes loonie on the oats!


        I fed rolled barley this winter to my foxhunters, mixed with some SS sweet and pellets. It kept them nice and round and level headed, and was a nice way to save a little $. $6.55 for 50 lbs as opposed to SS $14.


          I add whole oats to our old guy's grain because he is a difficult keeper and finicky eater. He sometimes likes oats, so will then eat more of his grain. The oats do pass into his manure, so I'm not sure they have a lot of nutrition for him. As long as he is eating his balancer pellets so I know he is getting his required nutrients, I am happy to supplement him with oats or whatever else he wants.


            I feed whole oats, moistened alfalfa cubes or mixed alfalfa/timothy cubes when I can get them, a vitamin/mineral supplement and 1/4 c of oil. Other than that, they get timothy/orchard grass hay. What I noticed this winter is that nobody got extremely fat, considering the lack of exercise, but all kept a good weight.
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              I feed alf. pellets, whole oats, rice bran, whole flax, beet pulp and a custom min. supplement. The horses look fantastic on this compared to a commercial mix last Fall. My fatties lost weight, my thinner ones gained weight and everyone just looks so much better.


                I feed up to 2lb to my OTTB mare. 2lb in the Winter, and she "requests" that drop to 1lb or so in the Summer. That does well for her, and does not make her hot. *I* wouldn't use more than 2lb for the high starch content, but I can see some horses being fine on more.
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                  I feed whole oats, flax and Equerry Plus to one horse. The other get the same, with the addition of breakfast of BP, rice bran, alf pellets. Both get free choice local grass hay at night in a small mesh haynet to slow them down and grazed down pasture in the day.
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                    I feed Triple Crown 30% ration balancer with crimped oats (for calories) to my 2 y.o. HAN. I add oats and hay to the 'regular' rations of my pasture beasties in the winter. They're out 24/7 and get less grain and no hay when the grass is growing. I also add oats to TC Complete for my daughter's picky eater. He likes oats more than anything, so that's done purely to get him to eat....
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                      My feed plan is identical to DayDreamBeliever's....except no rice bran, for some reason my guy doesn't like it.


                        Originally posted by BeastieSlave View Post
                        I feed Triple Crown 30% ration balancer with crimped oats (for calories) to my 2 y.o. HAN. I add oats and hay to the 'regular' rations of my pasture beasties in the winter. They're out 24/7 and get less grain and no hay when the grass is growing. I also add oats to TC Complete for my daughter's picky eater. He likes oats more than anything, so that's done purely to get him to eat....
                        Beastie I was contemplating something similar for Win.

                        People who have known him longer than me, when he was at other barns with other people, have said he looks the best now than he has in a long time. But I'm still not thrilled with the high volume of concentrates I am feeding him. Especially since I wonder if he is perhaps a bit ulcery......

                        I was at a friend's barn this weekend and they have an awesome feeding program. They've actually had their hay tested, and feed a mix of oats, soy, flax and beep depending on each horse's needs. They even had a vit/min supplement developed specifically to fill in the holes. I was impressed, and all the horses look great. Reminded me that sometimes going back to basics is the way to go.
                        We couldn't all be cowboys, so some of us are clowns.


                          Oats, Barley, and Corn are comparable to twinkies and doughnuts.

                          Add a bunch of alfalfa and if your horse is predisposed to IR syndrome/s you will surely know!

                          I actually attended a nutrition seminar this weekend. The vet/nutritionist was really really serious on oats/barley/corn, starchy stuff. bad bad bad.

                          He was big on start with a good quality feed.
                          And he liked beet pulp as well.

                          I was so pleased because all of my theories were said to be well thought out. I need to change ZERO in my program.
                          : )
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                            My mare gets..

                            1 cup oats
                            1/4 scoop (standard plastic scooper) of Kent Dynasty Pride (complete feed with beet pulp)
                            MannaPro ShoGlo supplement

                            She also gets alfalfa cubes to get some protein, and I feed them before a ride to keep her stomach happy.
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                              Originally posted by purplnurpl View Post
                              Add a bunch of alfalfa and if your horse is predisposed to IR syndrome/s you will surely know!

                              : )
                              Alfalfa is actually a low NSC. The pellets are less than 10% starch. I agree that too much COB can be a problem for any horse but some do need it to keep condition and add calories. Beet pulp, rice bran and flax are very good for IR type horses as is a moderate amount of alfalfa. I know...I'm feeding quite a few who are doing very well on this regimen.

                              What I won't feed them is soy.


                                "Oats, Barley, and Corn are comparable to twinkies and doughnuts."

                                This is a silly statement. The sugars and fats in whole grains are different from the refined sugars and fats in this sort of human 'food'.

                                And you happily ignore all the other macro and micro nutrients and fibre in the whole grains.

                                Having said that I don't feed maize or barley.

                                I have experimented with various other feeds - rice bran, linseed, hemp meal, soya etc etc but I believe the key to any good diet is varied whole foods fed often in small amounts and related to the horse's energy output so I have gone back to what has always worked for me. The basic diet for my horses other than grazing 24/7 is whole oats and a sprinkle of lucerne chaff. And occasionally some beet pulp although I'm also moving away from that.

                                I also bear in mind that a horse which is anxious, in pain, cannot operate its stay apparatus and therefore uses more energy just to stay upright - is using more energy than one that is calm, pain free and able to stand in balance.


                                  me, me!!! <waving hand from back of class> WHOLE oats are the lowest NSC of all grains, and really have a place in my world.

                                  I went back to whole, plain grains for a variety of reasons, not the least of which was my favorite ration balancer tripling in price in 4 mos last year. What I found was more bloom and less feed, believe it or nto.

                                  First fo all, you have to understand, my hay comes in at 8% protein on it's best day. So having broodies and babies and oldsters and a stallion... I have to work around that. You know the stallion is soy/falf no-no.

                                  The rest get a base of alfalfa pellets and/or cubes. Cubes when the forage is being stretched. Pellets when it's not--FAR more convinient for me.

                                  Then they get a loose vit/min, some BOSS, Flax or both, and whole, native Oats to finish up whomever needs calories. Right now the Colonial Spanish 2yo gets more oats than the other girls, because she needs less protein. The pg mare gets 50% oats, 50% falf. She needs more calories.

                                  The stallion gets >/< 3lbs whole oats per day, plus rice bran, BOSS/Flax as available (that varies for me) and vits/mins. He sometimes gets barley as it's known as a 'cool' way to add calories. It is low glycemic for it's starch content. (i.e. like low glycemic foods for diabetic humans, doesn't mean it's low starch, but means it processes more steadily without spikes.)

                                  EVERYONE gets beep to make up for irregularities from round-bale-to-round-bale.

                                  Everyone's fat, sassy and has great shine--the inside out shine, since they're also mudballs.

                                  I don't think I'll go back to processed, unless i have to. This gives me more control, and less worry about NSC, different batches, etc.
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                                    I fed my horse whole oats for years and added minerals and vitamins for him. He looked great and was never hot...Recently we have switched to feeding an EPSM type diet and I must say that he is growing a better hoof and tail! Something about the way he is absorbing it I think was more of our issue..I was told taht whole premiun oats are the best to feed that once rolled, cracked or crimped they starch quickly like corn. The oat hulls in the poop are just that and that is what the birds take, the actual oat is digested well by the horse.....
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                                      Has anyone checked the whole oats package lately? The whole oats in my barn now comes in a different bag, or from a different supplier, or different something. I happened to check the label and to my surprise the ingredients were: whole oats and soybean oil. The old one didn't have that. Anybody else have that or notice it? The fat percentage was still only 4%.


                                        "Oats, Barley, and Corn are comparable to twinkies and doughnuts."

                                        This is a silly statement.
                                        Agree. On the contrary, those are the 'whole' foods, completely opposite and in contrast to the refined 'ingredients' in twinkies and doughnuts. If you're intent on making this comparison, the pellets in a commercial feed are more processed, heated, extruded, refined, stripped of nutrients, bran, and enzymes that allow digestability, then all 'fortified' back in like those food 'products' you mention.