• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Recommendations for excellent layup barns in NJ/Philly/DE/MD area? Creative ideas?

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Recommendations for excellent layup barns in NJ/Philly/DE/MD area? Creative ideas?

    I just got the news from New Bolton that one of my horses is going to need months and months of stall rest for a DDFT tear.

    I am wondering if it makes more sense to send him to an excellent layup/rehab barn-- rather than bring him back to the barn where I board. Once before I had to keep him on stall rest for months, and although he was fine-- I felt terrible because he was in alone while all the other horses went out. At least at a layup barn, he wouldn't be the only horse stuck in and would have some company? And maybe it's quieter at a layup barn-- so not as hard for him as being at a riding barn watching other horses be ridden and messed with?!

    I am also wondering, financially, if it makes more sense. I haven't the foggiest idea what a good layup barn charges. The horse is going to need stall rest for at least 3 months (possibly many more) with only very, very minimal hand walking (and probably not that initially). He doesn't need any wrapping/medicating etc. Basically, just rest. The current boarding barn costs me $525/month plus there's a stall rest fee which I think is in the neighborhood of $100-125/month. Do you think a layup barn will be less than $625-650/month? I really have no concept of what that would cost.

    Other creative ideas/recommendations? Better to be "at home" where things are familiar but bustling, or somewhere strange but quiet?
    "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"

  • #2
    To the best of my knowledge, the better layup barns in this area are about $35 - $85 a day for stall rest ($1050 - $2550 per month). Turnout care runs more like $25 a day (around $750 a month).

    I did see a barn near Nottingham advertising layups for about $450 a month. I know nothing about them as to whether they are good or not.

    Of course, vet, farrier, cost of drugs, etc. is on top of layup costs.

    There may be lots of cheaper barns that I don't know about.

    I personally think it is worth it to pay for quality care & get it. But if the barn you are at now can give you quality care & rehab for the price you mention, then they are very economical.


    • Original Poster

      Wow, my vet is $25/day... I am getting a deal with him! He's not really equipped for long term stall rest, though he was kind enough to keep the horse for the weekend for me in between the initial exam and the MRI at New Bolton.

      He's supposed to have his shoes pulled. Right now I am paying $250 every 4 weeks, so at least THAT expense will go down some. He's not on any drugs and doesn't need to see the vet until he's been rested a while.

      I thought layup might be expensive. I thought maybe there was less expensive options because you always hear about people stashing race horses here and there in between taking them to the track-- but those are probably not true "layup" barns, just places you can short-term rent a stall.

      I wonder, finances aside, if it's easier on them to be at a strange place that is quiet? He's a pretty good boy but he's NOT going to enjoy the stall rest, I'd like to make it as easy on him as I can.

      Thanks for the feedback!
      "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"


      • #4
        Why extra charge for stall rest?

        Hmm. I'm starting to think I don't charge nearly enough!!!
        I'm not sure I understand why you would have to pay extra for having the horse in stall rest if he needs no other therapy? Extra bedding? Hay?

        Anyway, I think depending on the horse, this could go either way. Some are better off somewhere very quiet and some do better if they have activity around to have something to keep an eye on. Once they get used to the routine, they generally adapt well to anything, really.

        Costwise, I don't really know the average prices in your immediate area, but I would think you should be able to find a reasonably priced smaller lay-up farm?


        • #5
          A GOOD layup barn does more then feed/water/clean stalls. Hence the extra fees. Usually they are pros with medicating, feeding and managing horses on stall rest, and may also have the facilities for rehabilitation exercises, such as a hot walker or a water treadmill.
          You get what you pay for in this area, I don't think just any boarding farm who will simply not turn him out will work.
          Do not take anything to heart. Do not hanker after signs of progress. Founder of the Riders with Fibromyalgia clique.


          • #6
            lay up barns are pricey.

            there is a great one in pittstown, nj, at high brass farm. they also have underwater treadmill which is great for soft tissue rehabs. but i think board alone is considerably more than what you're paying for board right now per month. but if you can afford it, your horse will have excellent care, will get hand walked, and looked after and get all his meds. actually if you are interested you should call them because who knows, maybe prices have changed.
            TQ(Trail Queen) \"Learn How to Ride or Move Over!!\" Clique


            • #7
              Yes, I totally understand extra fees for extra care, was mainly commenting on the fact that current boarding barn charges extra for stall rest, although it was mentioned in the first post that horse needs no wrapping, meds etc. just basic rest.


              • #8
                If you are looking for the best of the best, I'd highly recommend Hunter's Run in NJ.

                They cater primarily to TB racehorse layups, and are usually full, but I believe my old riding trainer (who lives in the property) just moved some riding horses to another facility, so they may have openings.

                They have long standing relationships with the best of the best in terms of vets and farrier. If I was going to pay top dollar, this is where it'd be. Sorry, I don't know current prices, but give Jan a call and ask!

                PS It's super easy to get to... 2 minutes off 195 or the Parkway.


                • #9
                  I don't know anything of Hunters Run, but I tend to stay up in north west NJ.
                  I HAVE heard great things about Brass Ring.

                  I would ask for references if you are undecided.
                  Do not take anything to heart. Do not hanker after signs of progress. Founder of the Riders with Fibromyalgia clique.


                  • #10
                    IF your current barn can meet your horse's needs, I would say he is probably best off there (just my opinion). However, I read so many threads on this board about horses on stall rest ... getting loose & hurting themselves, running through the fence of the "roundpen" or "small paddock", rearing & bucking during hand walking ... the stories of layup & rehab disaster seem almost daily to me. The facilities need to be available - I don't consider an electric fenced pen to constitute a suitable "round pen" for first turnout, nor is a whole indoor, even a small one, suitable for first turnout. Many facilities have 13 year old "barn rats" doing the hand-walking & they are not up to handling every horse that has been in a stall for several months.

                    We do layups & we are at the lower end of the pricing I mentioned. We start "turnout" with a roundpen consisting of about 6 pipe panels & a gate. Not much bigger than a stall but a chance to eat grass, roll, bask in the sunshine & enjoy being a horse. We add panels every few days as the horse acclimates to being outside. We handwalk but there are no teenagers doing handwalking here - just very experienced adults. If a horse needs therapy (for example, knee bending after knee surgery), the horse gets therapy.

                    The higher priced layups have access to all sorts of things such as underwater treadmills & hyperbaric oxygen chambers.

                    I just think that most of the people who post threads here about their problems handling a horse on stall rest or handwalking or first turnouts, really, really should spend the money for a good rehab facility. If you are spending money for surgery, vet diagnostics, etc., why risk everything with inadequate followup?

                    So, that is what you have to consider & evaluate: Can your current barn meet his needs? It sounds like they can. If so, then keep him there. The price is right. At any point where your current barn is not meeting your horse's needs to the highest level, find a layup facility. It will be worth the money it ultimately saves you.


                    • #11
                      Just my .02.. Layups entail alot more work than horses with some turnout due to increased costs of hay, bedding and labor-and that's before the extra fees. A horse stall confined will need to have his stall picked out very often, as well as extra hay to keep him occupied, and with him urinating only in the stall will go through lots of bedding! I think the layup charge at OPs barn is pretty fair considering the added expense and workload.


                      • #12
                        Maui Meadows is right by New Bolton Center. I don't remember exactly what they charge but I thought their prices were reasonable and the facilities and care were superb. They also have different therapy modalities that may help speed up healing if the vet gives the ok.
                        McDowell Racing Stables

                        Home Away From Home