• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Quiessence, do you use it

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Quiessence, do you use it

    have you used it, what are you feelings about it.

    I want to get this out of the way first off - I am not using this supplement as a QUICK FIX, I am working both my horses properly and with a trainer.

    BOTH of my current horses are currently on it and while I've not seen a HUGE difference in Harriett's Cresty Neck; Pete is a far more calm horse recently. So much so that the trainer ventured up into the Mountains and he did very well. (I posted about this yesterday)

    Here is a definition taken from Foxden Equine Nutrition & Therapy website:

    Quiessence® is a Magnesium and Chromium formula designed to support calm, balanced behavior in equines. It may also help animals who are cresty-necked to reduce the crest, and may help reduce the tendency to founder by supporting normal glucose metabolism and increasing peripheral circulation. Quiessence® is natural and legal, with no known side effects.
    Chronicle of My Horse
    Secret Passage Ranch
    **a member of the
    Riders with Fibromyalgia & Adult Re-riders Clique

  • #2
    I use it- I did a major diet overhaul so I can't say if it works or not, but he's doing well. I bought the big bucket and after it runs out, I'll leave him off it to see what happens. It's cheapest at dover, if you have a store in your area and don't have to pay shipping.
    -Grace

    Comment

    • Original Poster

      #3
      Originally posted by TheOrangeOne View Post
      It's cheapest at dover, if you have a store in your area and don't have to pay shipping.
      Foxden is located in Stuarts Draft, VA and offers the 50lbs. bag for $180 + shipping. It's the cheapest I've found it, having seen the 50lbs. bag for $285 + shipping.

      I'll give Dover a call and see what they have it for. I'll be out of the 5lbs. bag by Friday.
      Chronicle of My Horse
      Secret Passage Ranch
      **a member of the
      Riders with Fibromyalgia & Adult Re-riders Clique

      Comment


      • #4
        Nope. Have tried it, never found it did anything. FWIW.
        Click here before you buy.

        Comment

        • Original Poster

          #5
          Originally posted by deltawave View Post
          Nope. Have tried it, never found it did anything. FWIW.
          Um, what is FWIW? I've seen that a lot lately and have no earthly idea what it means?
          Chronicle of My Horse
          Secret Passage Ranch
          **a member of the
          Riders with Fibromyalgia & Adult Re-riders Clique

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by VAHorseGurl View Post
            Um, what is FWIW? I've seen that a lot lately and have no earthly idea what it means?
            I believe it means For What It's Worth.

            Comment


            • #7
              I have been using it since October and some days I think it has those magical calming powers and some days I think it's a waste (I use it for my sometimes spooky, ADD horse). I have recently tried Mare Magic and I think I get better results from that.

              Comment


              • #8
                Really? I tried Mare Magic and didn't see any change in my ADD mare and was thinking of tryng Quiessence.
                Yogurt - If you're so cultured, how come I never see you at the opera? Steven Colbert

                Comment


                • #9
                  Melyni Worth, owner of Foxden, posts here on COTH. I recently attended a fairly informal talk that she gave on Cushings/IR horses and she was very open to receiving emails if people had questions. If you're considering it for your horse or you've already started it, but you're not sure that it's working as you need it to, why don't you either PM her or get her email from the Foxden site and contact her that way. She may have another recommendation for your horse or have an idea to further help the overall nutrition of your horses.
                  Flip a coin. It's not what side lands that matters, but what side you were hoping for when the coin was still in the air.

                  You call it boxed wine. I call it carboardeaux.

                  Comment

                  • Original Poster

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bellboots View Post
                    I have been using it since October and some days I think it has those magical calming powers and some days I think it's a waste (I use it for my sometimes spooky, ADD horse). I have recently tried Mare Magic and I think I get better results from that.
                    Thank you ThoroughbredFancy for the definition of FWIF.

                    Bell, since my spooky horse is my gelding, I don't think mare magic would work, or would it? My mare is the one with the cresty neck and fatty deposits, but she's only been on it less than a month now. Per her weight on February 21, she was getting 3.5 scoops of it daily.

                    I've only noticed that her cresty neck is somewhat softer, but I haven't measured it yet to see if it's decreased in size yet. I'm hoping to do that this weekend.
                    Chronicle of My Horse
                    Secret Passage Ranch
                    **a member of the
                    Riders with Fibromyalgia & Adult Re-riders Clique

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by VAHorseGurl View Post

                      I've only noticed that her cresty neck is somewhat softer, but I haven't measured it yet to see if it's decreased in size yet. I'm hoping to do that this weekend.

                      The softening is generally the first thing you'll notice before it begins reducing. I had my stud on it last year just for fat pads and cresty neck. Within 2 weeks the crest had gone from rock hard to soft and squishy. It began decreasing a couple of weeks later. I only had him on it for a couple of months before winter set in and I pulled him off of it. He's really laid back but it really calmed him down even more. Didn't notice the calming effect until I ran out of it

                      I will be putting him back on it this spring along with a mare of mine. I have tried tons of other magnesium supps and this is the only one that made a difference at all. You'll only notice a difference if the horse is magnesium deficient. Some can't tell a difference at all and some folks love it. Just depends on the individual horse as to if you'll notice a difference or not.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Use it and yes, I see a difference in my horses' necks.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          You can buy MagOx (magnesium oxide) at your local feed mill for about 40 cents a pound. I can't imagine why anyone would pay thirty times the cost for other products.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Auventera Two View Post
                            You can buy MagOx (magnesium oxide) at your local feed mill for about 40 cents a pound. I can't imagine why anyone would pay thirty times the cost for other products.
                            Because some of us see no results from magox, that's why. I saw no results from Magnesium Oxide, Remission, or Thia Cal. I DID see results from Quiessence. I sure wish I didn't so I could save some money but I saw it work for my horse and I saw PHYSICAL changes. Don't belittle people who happened to have good results with a product and you didn't

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Tried both Quiessence as well as a generic Vitamin E/Selenium supplement. Saw no effect from either.

                              I think if your horse is mineral deficient, you might expect to see a result. If you horse isn't, then you're not going to see any effect... simple as that.

                              I find MUCH better and more universal (though not entirely universal) calming results from Calm and Cool with valarian.
                              ~Veronica
                              "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
                              http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                Did use it and saw a difference. However, they changed the "flavor" and my mare refused to eat it! I've since changed her feeding program and am using a ration balancer instead.
                                http://fromdressagehorsetocowpony.blogspot.com/

                                "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Tiger Horse View Post
                                  Did use it and saw a difference. However, they changed the "flavor" and my mare refused to eat it! I've since changed her feeding program and am using a ration balancer instead.
                                  No, they didn't change the flavor per se. Each batch is different because it's used with distillers grains. If your horse refuses it, call Foxden for a replacement. My horse wouldn't eat it either and I mentioned it on here and Melyni told me to call them and explained why each batch would taste different.

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    yep. On a 3/4 percheron. We saw an immediate difference in temperament. She used to be tense, unable to focus and unwilling to "give". Tended to be a bully. She immediately calmed down, was able to focus and interact softly with us and stopped bully-ing. In a week-2 weeks. Shes been on it since last summer and we've definitely seen a reduction in her crest.
                                    "The mighty oak is a nut who stood its ground"

                                    "...you'll never win Olympic gold by shaking a carrot stick at a warmblood..." see u at x

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Auventera Two View Post
                                      You can buy MagOx (magnesium oxide) at your local feed mill for about 40 cents a pound. I can't imagine why anyone would pay thirty times the cost for other products.
                                      Because Quiessence isn't pure Magnesium Oxide. It also contains chelated Magnesium, and some form of Chromium. Chromium's quite a bit more expensive to add to a diet than Mg is, from what I've heard.
                                      Tell a Gelding. Ask a Stallion. Discuss it with a Mare... Pray if it's a Pony!

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        VAHorseGurl -

                                        Yes - I give Mare Magic to my "spooky, grumpy, don't touch me" gelding. I was just browsing at the feed store and the description on the bag caught my eye ("for marish mares...and spooky geldings"). It was cheap so I bought it to see what it was all about. I am doubling the dose as per the SmartPak site suggests. I showed my horse this past weekend at an indoor arena - it usually freaks him out so bad that I think he could go bald. This time, however, he was as calm and cool as he has ever been. Now he wasn't perfect, but he was so much better than past shows it was almost weird. The only change was the Mare Magic.

                                        If anyone thinks that his symptoms suggest ulcers, you are correct - he had ulcers in the past and we think he has a very sensitive tummy that is related to his very sensitive brain. He has done 2 rounds of Gastrogard and is on daily Ranitidine, which helps tremendously.

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X